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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:30 PM Jun 2013

Thanks to President Obama, strong whistleblower protections are in place

President Signs Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act (WPEA)

by Hannah Johnson

After 13 Year Campaign, Federal Workers Get Long-Overdue Upgrades

(Washington, DC) – The Government Accountability Project (GAP) is praising President Obama's signing of S. 743, the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act (WPEA), into law earlier today. The legislation provides millions of federal workers with the rights they need to report government corruption and wrongdoing safely. The bill reflects an unequivocal bipartisan consensus, having received the vote of every member in the 112th Congress, passing both the Senate and House of Representatives by unanimous consent over the past couple of months. The text of the bill can be read here.

GAP Legal Director Tom Devine commented:

"This reform took 13 years to pass because it can make so much difference against fraud, waste and abuse. Government managers at all levels made pleas and repeatedly blocked the bill through procedural sabotage. But once there were no more secret 'holds,' the WPEA passed unanimously, because no politician in a free society can openly oppose freedom of speech. Over the years, earlier versions of this law had been called the Taxpayer Protection Act. Nothing could set a better context for fiscal cliff negotiations than a unanimous, bipartisan consensus to protect those who risk their careers to protect the taxpayers. This victory reflects a consensus ranging from President Obama to Representative Darrell Issa. The mandate for this law is that the truth is the public's business."

Among other key reforms, federal employees now are protected (in addition to already-existing scenarios) from reprisal if they: are not the first person to disclose misconduct; disclose misconduct to coworkers or supervisors; disclose the consequences of a policy decision; or blow the whistle while carrying out their job duties.

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Devine continued, stating

"The victory reflects strong bipartisan teamwork, as well as advocacy within the party, as Republicans often had to work harder at convincing wary colleagues. And it reflects relentless pressure from conservative stakeholders – like the National Taxpayers Union – throughout the last 13 years. Crucial support came from President Obama, who was committed from day one of his term to signing this bill into law. Most Presidents have offered lip service for whistleblower rights, but President Obama fought to give them more teeth."

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http://www.whistleblower.org/blog/42-2012/2380-president-signs-whistleblower-protection-enhancement-act-wpea-

This will work as long as the President isn't evil.




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Thanks to President Obama, strong whistleblower protections are in place (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP
OMG. you have crossed the credulity line here. dkf Jun 2013 #1
WTF are you talking about? ProSense Jun 2013 #3
How do you? treestar Jun 2013 #16
I pick my own views. I am a natural born skeptic. dkf Jun 2013 #19
Disagreeing with one person on everything in lockstep treestar Jun 2013 #21
I enjoy it. ProSense Jun 2013 #26
well it is kind of sick when a site like GAP posts a detailed defense of snowden Monkie Jun 2013 #67
Here is a link for you. I think it will help with the job. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #2
Here's one ProSense Jun 2013 #5
One more law he evidently doensn't give a shit about. n/t B2G Jun 2013 #10
Well that explains why they're opening a criminal investigation B2G Jun 2013 #4
"Are you high?" ProSense Jun 2013 #7
one does not have to be high to worship false idols lol nt msongs Jun 2013 #8
The proof of the pudding is in the eating... kentuck Jun 2013 #6
Yeah, "safeguards" - they call them PRISON WALLS elsewhere. Ask John Kiriakou kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #9
Which is why he's pursuing the whistle blower who exposed Prism? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #11
Maybe it's just a test? To see how strong the protections are? leftstreet Jun 2013 #61
lmfao, getting some overtime this weekend. /nt Marr Jun 2013 #12
You forgot this: 99Forever Jun 2013 #13
Why? You think the people who wrote the release are idiots? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #14
I know they are propagandists.. 99Forever Jun 2013 #15
"propaganists.."? LOL! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #18
Good to know .. 99Forever Jun 2013 #24
Oh, I wasn't laughing ProSense Jun 2013 #27
Oh noes! 99Forever Jun 2013 #29
blue link to facts, trumps slimey sarcasm any day. Just saying Sheepshank Jun 2013 #37
Yay! 99Forever Jun 2013 #41
still with the sarcasm? Sheepshank Jun 2013 #42
Ah, ya cut me to the bone. 99Forever Jun 2013 #43
morew whistleblowers have been arrested under President Obama backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #17
Facts ProSense Jun 2013 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Jun 2013 #38
Hard to square that with his actions to date (LINKS) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #20
This ProSense Jun 2013 #25
Reality usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #28
The law isn't ProSense Jun 2013 #30
stopping this admin from prosecuting whistle blowers usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #32
Actually, ProSense Jun 2013 #33
The Fear Campaign is Not Working usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #36
"Patriots"? jazzimov Jun 2013 #40
that's right usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #48
you and yours arent going to stop us prosense backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #44
Please, ProSense Jun 2013 #45
do you think posting propaganda is unseemly? backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #47
Do you think idiotic opinions matter? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #53
Obviously, you do. n/t usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #58
- Phlem Jun 2013 #22
The Whistle Blower Act has nothing giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #31
It's an option if your only goal is to gain 15 minutes of fame. randome Jun 2013 #34
nonsense usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #35
Believe what you want giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #39
He gets no protection from several violations of Federal law -- he's not a whistleblower FarCenter Jun 2013 #46
LOL DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #49
This about covers it. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #51
Looks just like you. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #54
You just jumped the shark. Right when you posted this. Sad. Nt. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #50
You have no point. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #55
Sure I do. It's over. Let it die. Nt. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #63
Is he going to thank Mr. Snowden for his whistleblowing? nt boston bean Jun 2013 #52
. Rex Jun 2013 #57
That's what I came to ask. Great question. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #60
LOL, almost beyond belief at this point. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #56
Hey, ProSense Jun 2013 #59
Just the title of your posts crack me up. Most non-biased posters would of used..... Logical Jun 2013 #65
Nobody outside the little club has given this one any credence for years. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #64
It is funny you said that. At times I swear she is just messing with us. Still not 100% sure. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #66
Ludicrous Speed! whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #62
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. OMG. you have crossed the credulity line here.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know how you stay so devoted...that's not sarcasm btw I'm honestly impressed.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
19. I pick my own views. I am a natural born skeptic.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

I follow no one including no religion, no individual, no ideology. I also don't follow any party in lockstep. I make my own judgments.

I may lean a certain way, but I don't swallow the whole program.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. Disagreeing with one person on everything in lockstep
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jun 2013

Is the same thing. Plenty of posters here are just as devoted as Prosense for the opposite conclusion.

Reminds me of how in third grade I went to the girls' room at the same time each day, and a girl who was always in there when I went in would go to her friend: "She's always here! Every day!" The same could be said of her, too, of course. But she said it like there was something wrong with me doing it!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
26. I enjoy it.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jun 2013

People who are afraid of anything that effectively counters the negative narrative. The first response is always a personal attack.

I mean, some have responded with information about whistleblowing prosecutions under this administration, and I can debate that.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
67. well it is kind of sick when a site like GAP posts a detailed defense of snowden
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jun 2013

and the only thing a certain poster takes on board from that is how great obama´s protection of whistleblowers is, and then rushes to post that information in a new thread.
i try to remain polite, even if i am sometimes quite strident in my opinion, but this is farce. its beyond a farce.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. "Are you high?"
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jun 2013

Are you stupid?

President Obama might be evil, but he signed the law. Do you deny that he signed the law? Do you dispute the release?

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
6. The proof of the pudding is in the eating...
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jun 2013

We'll see how much he tries to restrict the information that is about to come out in the next week or two? He cannot say, "Let's have an open discussion about it" and then say, "We need to stop these leaks and prosecute the guilty parties." It needs to be one or the other.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
9. Yeah, "safeguards" - they call them PRISON WALLS elsewhere. Ask John Kiriakou
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jun 2013

if you can arrange a jailhouse interview.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
27. Oh, I wasn't laughing
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jun 2013

"the Spelling Police are on the job. "

...at the spelling. I was laughing at calling that organization propagandists.

http://www.whistleblower.org/about/gap-staff/86-jesselyn-radack



 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
42. still with the sarcasm?
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jun 2013

time to grow up and get over dealing with opposition without some actual, you know, data.

what are you, 12?

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
17. morew whistleblowers have been arrested under President Obama
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jun 2013

than every other administration before him COMBINED

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
23. Facts
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jun 2013

"morew whistleblowers have been arrested under President Obama than every other administration before him COMBINED"

<...>

Here’s the official excuse, from the Justice Department’s letter to AP today and from the daily White House press briefing: “The president feels strongly that we need the press to be able to be unfettered in its pursuit of investigative journalism,” press secretary Jay Carney said. “He is also mindful of the need for secret and classified information to remain secret and classified in order to protect our national security interests.” That sounds like a perfectly reasonable balancing, but in practice, it’s not. Between 1917 and 1985, there was one successful federal leak prosecution. The Obama White House, by contrast, has pursued leaks “with a surprising relentlessness,” as Jane Mayer wrote in her masterful New Yorker piece about the prosecution of Thomas Drake. Of Holder and Obama’s six unlucky targets, Drake is the guy who best fits the whistle-blower profile: He gave information to a Baltimore Sun reporter who wrote “a prize-winning series of articles for the Sun about financial waste, bureaucratic dysfunction, and dubious legal practices” in the National Security Agency. After years of hounding, the case against Drake fell apart, and he wound up pleading guilty to one misdemeanor. No jail time.

<...>

The Drake prosecution started under President George W. Bush. So did the leak prosecution of Jeffrey Sterling, the former CIA officer charged with disclosing information about Iran to James Risen of the New York Times. But Obama’s Justice Department has also launched its own prosecutions, as the AP probe underscores. As Scott Shane and Charlie Savage pointed out last year in the New York Times, it was in 2009, the first year of Obama’s presidency, that DOJ and the director of national intelligence created a taskforce that “streamlined procedures to follow up on leaks.” At the same time, the increasing prevalence of electronic records made investigations easier. The result, as Shane and Savage write, is that while the Justice Department used to be “where leak complaints from the intelligence agencies went to die,” now they are being kept alive.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/05/obama_s_justice_department_holder_s_leak_investigations_are_outrageous_and.html

Yeah, there was more than one, and many of them began under Bush. There was the Plame investigation, but somehow it missed indicting Rove.

Still, not everyone who leaks classified information is a whistleblower. The Fox hack certainly isn't one.





Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #17)

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
25. This
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jun 2013

05/14/2013
The Obama administration has aggressively prosecuted leaks and whistleblowers. Who are they?
https://knightcenter.utexas.edu/blog/00-13889-obama-administration-has-aggressively-prosecuted-leaks-and-whistleblowers-who-are-they

...is really good information. Of the six, three were sentenced. Government employees who leaked classified information, including the names of CIA agents. Isn't whistleblowing supposed to involve government wrongdoing and not just the release of classified information for the hell of it?

Do you think anyone supports leaking the name of an undercover CIA agent?



 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
28. Reality
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jun 2013

This admin has more aggressively prosecuted whistle blowers than all other admins.

You appear to be arguing that this admin is whistle blower friendly (the spin) were their actual behavior tells a different story (the reality).

BTW: the one case were an agents name was in documents provided to the reporter, the reporter did not print the name, but they did point out that the name was already in the public domain...

"the Times pointed out that the agent’s identity appeared in a sealed legal filing and on an “obscure” website."



ProSense

(116,464 posts)
30. The law isn't
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jun 2013

"This admin has more aggressively prosecuted whistle blowers than all other admins. "

...an invitation leak classified information. I mean, leaking the name of an undercover CIA agent is still illegal.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
32. stopping this admin from prosecuting whistle blowers
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jun 2013

as we will see in the coming days with the most recent revelations.

Let's see what the admin will do with this whistle blower/patriot...
Edward Snowden is the NSA whistle-blower
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance
discuss...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2977667

AGAIN: the leak wasn't intended to reveal a CIA agent's name, and the agents name wasn't published in the story written based on the leak (as i noted above, which doesn't not matter to you since you have a different agenda here).

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
33. Actually,
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

"stopping this admin from prosecuting whistle blowers as we will see in the coming days with the most recent revelations."

...I smell a deliberate agenda, and that isn't it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2977765

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
36. The Fear Campaign is Not Working
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jun 2013

Patriots are stepping up to the plate no matter what the state throws at them... in fact, I believe it will have the opposite effect then what is intended, since this is America, and Americans hate to be told what to do, and what to think, especially when it comes to our freedoms.

They should expect massive blowback.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
48. that's right
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:54 PM
Jun 2013

my agenda is defending our constitution, as all Americans should.

What's yours, partisan politics?

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
44. you and yours arent going to stop us prosense
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jun 2013

tell your betters we have had enough.

There are two solutions to this...and one is nasty

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
45. Please,
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jun 2013

"you and yours arent going to stop us prosense

tell your betters we have had enough.

There are two solutions to this...and one is nasty"

...get over yourself. Also, don't you think making threats on the Internet is cowardly and silly?

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
31. The Whistle Blower Act has nothing
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jun 2013

to do with people who leak classified information which is a violation of the Non Disclosure Agreement & federal law. This is exactly like the Manning incident. There is a reason the US gov gives documents certain classifications & even have that security clearance doesn't automatically grant you access to those documents.

Once again there is a chain of command for issues such as these. Giving to a reporter is not an option.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. It's an option if your only goal is to gain 15 minutes of fame.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jun 2013

Both Snowden and Greenwald's motivations, IMO.

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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
35. nonsense
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jun 2013

There is a long tradition in the U.S. of whistle blowers providing classified information to reporters to expose wrong-doing in gov.

e.g. The Pentagon Papers

Do you honestly believe that things would change if the wrong doers are enabled to continue operating in secret? That would be terminally naive.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
39. Believe what you want
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jun 2013

He just leaked top secret information regarding how our country is gathering intelligence all of which is considered lawful (whether we like it or not). Go reread the whistle blowers act again. It doesn't protect him anymore than it protected Manning.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
46. He gets no protection from several violations of Federal law -- he's not a whistleblower
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

He is also not a Federal employee.

And there are specific procedures for whistleblowing by Intelligence community employees, if he were one. They do not include publishing classified information.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
59. Hey,
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jun 2013

"LOL, almost beyond belief at this point. "

...I just posted this:

Lawmakers Tear Into Obama’s Surveillance Program, Pledge To Challenge It At Supreme Court
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022977943

I look forward to the "OMGs," cries of "propaganda," the denials and disbelief.

After all, there are people refusing to believe that WaPo backtracked on its inaccurate claims.

LOL!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
65. Just the title of your posts crack me up. Most non-biased posters would of used.....
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jun 2013

"President Signs Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act (WPEA) "

Or maybe thanked Senator Daniel Akaka.

Wow, you really are a piece of work.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
64. Nobody outside the little club has given this one any credence for years.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jun 2013

I've thought several times that it was a purposeful attempt at comedy.

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