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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:49 PM Jun 2013

Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald and Gary Johnson are unified in opposition

Ron Paul and Glenn Greenwald and Gary Johnson are unified in opposition to the US government sanctioned killing of American Citizen al-Awlaki.

The punishment for treason is written into the US Constitution, and that punishment is death. Because of this, it's perfectly legal for the US government to kill al-Awlaki. It's a matter of whether or not you believe the government should have killed al-Awlaki. What makes this situation politically interesting is that you can see that on some level there is a political unification between the anarchist left and anarchist right. Glen Greenwald has taken positions in the past which most would consider to be of the anarchist left, and Ron Paul is known for being associated with the Tea Party.

The psychological alignment between these three different individuals and the factions they represent is the fundamental distrust in government. The far left and far right distrust the government and are uncomfortable with the idea that the government can have the authority to make the decision to take a human life when that human is an American citizen. The US Constitution clearly says that the duty of members who swear their oath is to protect the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. According to the information we have al-Awlaki was clearly an enemy of the United States, he was however an American citizen and because of this and the high levels of distrust of government between the libertarian left and libertarian right, there is a mixed reaction.


http://www.examiner.com/article/ron-paul-glenn-greenwald-and-gary-johnson-are-unified-opposition

And Edward Snowden, contributor to Ron Paul, is making disclosures through Glenn Greenwald.
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Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald and Gary Johnson are unified in opposition (Original Post) FarCenter Jun 2013 OP
Come on! These folks are just well meaning people with no agenda other than to screw over uponit7771 Jun 2013 #1
+1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
In a democracy we shouldn't fear our government....or trust it. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #3
you can add my name to that list, too.... mike_c Jun 2013 #4
Perhaps it was about treason, but my impression was al-awaiki still_one Jun 2013 #5
And me too! Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #6
That's because privacy rights are not a partizan issue. canoeist52 Jun 2013 #7
meanwhile, peter king and lindsey graham, much like you, don't see the issue here.. frylock Jun 2013 #8
So we should be for it Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #9

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
1. Come on! These folks are just well meaning people with no agenda other than to screw over
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

...the Obama ad....er uh, protect our civil liberties. /sarcasm

The fact that Snowden used to work for Carlyle Group scream loud to me

mike_c

(36,269 posts)
4. you can add my name to that list, too....
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jun 2013

Ah, another great rhetorical fallacy has shown up, right on cue. Want to turn public opinion against doing the right thing? Just associate it with people we don't like!

Clue: even a broken clock is right twice a day.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
5. Perhaps it was about treason, but my impression was al-awaiki
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jun 2013

was part of a group who had threatened, and were involved in doing harm to Americans, and American interest

Now the argument made was that he should have been brought to trial

As I understand it Sudan was not going to help us in that endeavor, similar to bin laden, except we invaded two countries based on the bush approach

So the question is do we remove him if he posses a real threat to Americans?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
8. meanwhile, peter king and lindsey graham, much like you, don't see the issue here..
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

just wanted to point that out, as long as we're playing the guilt by association game.

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