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'4 Intelligence Officials' Allegedly Joke Of 'Disappearing' NSA Leaker, Reporter (UPDATED)According to Clemons, four men sitting near him were discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended, and turned to the topic of the NSA leaks. One said that both the reporter and leaker should be "disappeared," a term used to describe secret murders and abductions carried out by authoritarian governments. Clemons said on Twitter the suggestion seemed to be "bravado" and a "disturbing joke." He said that the officials were talking loudly, "almost bragging."
HuffPost asked Clemons via Twitter how he could be sure they were in the intelligence community and he noted that "one wore a white knit national counterterrorism center shirt." But more importantly, he said, the conversation led him to conclude that they were certainly in the community, especially given the conference they talked about attending. They discussed former Ambassador John Negroponte as having been in attendance. (If you know what conference that was, email openreporting@huffingtonpost.com.)
Clemons, who is editor at large at The Atlantic, said he did not know who the officials were or what agency they were with. He recorded part of the conversation and took some photos, which he plans to post online.
And this update:
Stay tuned...
PB
Recursion
(56,582 posts)A thousand RSOs just wept.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)A friend gave me a DOD baseball cap some years ago.
If you hear me discussing national defense at the airport while wearing that hat, should you conclude I'm a high level official at the DOD?
And wait ... he RECORDED part of their conversation WITHOUT their permission?????
And he's upset about illegal surveillance???
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)As to the article, you don't sound like you even bothered to read it.
No surprise there.
PB
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Let's pretend these guys were at some conference.
By coincidence, I was at a conference last week too. It was a technical conference.
Now, knowing that, do you have any idea what my role at the conference was? Was I one of the 3 key note speakers? Am I a VP for one of the companies who ran the conference? Was I one of the many session speakers? Was I leading training sessions? Was I attending training sessions? Perhaps I work with a government agency who leverages one or more of the technologies this conference focused on.
You have no idea.
But this guy overheard 4 guys at the airport ... and he knows who they are and what they do.
And again, I love how he thought it was OK to audio or video tape them without their permission. Clearly he has his own set of lines when it comes to privacy.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)If not, I don't suppose it would ever be an issue.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)See what I did there?
Ever here that phrase before? Do you think I plan to kill you?
And let's see ... apparently, your position is that 4 guys who actually know about how to have some one killed, are going to discuss killing a specific person, very loudly, in a very public place, and also be serious about it.
Really?
Sounds like the Atlantic is feeling jealous and wants some attention.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... "talking shit" in public.
Maybe these guys are government hit men and forgot that you don't talk about your murder plans at the airport.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Friday, June 7, 2013
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