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CaliforniaPeggy
Jun 2013
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Whisp
(24,096 posts)1. nice artwork.
too bad people are falling for this shit. Again.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)2. The recent NSA stories have nothing to do with wiretapping
So a picture of Obama wearing headphones doesn't make much sense in the context of the recent NSA stories.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)4. Yeah, officials say they don't eavesdrop.
The data collected include the phone numbers involved, the time, date and duration of calls and the route a call takes through telephone networks. Officials emphasized that the effort did not include listening to conversations. The National Security Agency stores the data and can use it to detect patterns of calls that might provide intelligence about terrorist activity, officials said.
In addition, if investigators have "reasonable, articulable suspicion" that a phone number is part of a terrorist network, the government can seek a court warrant to search the database for calls connected to that number, according to several senators who have been briefed on the highly classified program.
In addition, if investigators have "reasonable, articulable suspicion" that a phone number is part of a terrorist network, the government can seek a court warrant to search the database for calls connected to that number, according to several senators who have been briefed on the highly classified program.
Read more:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-secret-surveillance-20130607%2C0%2C5263648.story
But what happens after they get that court warrant? Maybe not the NSA, but some agency certainly would listen in if they have reasonable grounds to suspect that a terrorist plot is unfolding. So the headphones might make sense after all.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)5. Yes...they need to get a warrant. That's the key.
Law enforcement and US government agencies have been wiretapping people for decades, but they need to have a warrant for it to be considered legal. The judge who signs off on the warrant needs to determine there's probable cause.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)6. There is a warrant for this data mining,
so we must all be under suspicion. Or they have probable cause to believe we should be under suspicion.
a kennedy
(29,642 posts)3. I don't like it at all.....
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)7. agree...
totally.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)8. disagree...
partially.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)9. See #2
And yes, that's why I don't like it. But, hey, have at it hoss..its a free country.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)10. See #3
Yep. We'll have to agree to disagree.
I thought the cartoon in the OP was visually clever
It doesn't bear too much analysis.