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BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:43 AM Jun 2013

Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) thinks the NSA program is just fine. But...

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/52145588#52145588

I can't for the life of me figure out his reasoning, given that he voted against the Patriot Act at the time.

Q. [In response to Obama's contention that every member of Congress was briefed.] Were you briefed on this and when were you briefed on it?

A. I don't know whether i was personally briefed on it. They do have these briefings. I try not to attend because i don't want to know a secret that's gonna show up in the New York Times the next morning...

Q. You voted against [the Patriot Act] in 2007; you've not been briefed on this since then is what you're saying?

A. No, I haven't. The fact I voted against the law doesn't mean the enforcement of this section of the law-- I thought it was overreaching, but at a time that America's being threatened, I'm not going to micromanage the security of the United States based on my emotional and political beliefs. You have to have some confidence in this president. Quite frankly, if it was a different president, I might take a different look at the legislation.

He sounds like a number of self-described Democrats I've talked to-- opposing the Patriot Act at the time, but now in favor of the phone records sweep. I still don't really understand the reasoning. I hope the congressman is aware that this president will not be in office past January 2017.
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Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) thinks the NSA program is just fine. But... (Original Post) BlueCheese Jun 2013 OP
This country is moving further and further to the right burnodo Jun 2013 #1
Like Bill Maher said the other night " I trust President Obama with this octoberlib Jun 2013 #2
Well Charlie I gotta say, in 2016 it WILL be a different president Autumn Jun 2013 #3
I try not to attend???? Well naturally everything just fine............. wandy Jun 2013 #4
Good for Charlie ! jaysunb Jun 2013 #5
Pretty much embarrassing. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #6
"....based on my emotional and political beliefs." Rangel Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #7
 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
1. This country is moving further and further to the right
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:47 AM
Jun 2013

The terrorists may not have won, but this seems to be a different country than the one I remember.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. Like Bill Maher said the other night " I trust President Obama with this
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:50 AM
Jun 2013

but I wouldn't trust President Ted Cruz," Well, since Obama won't be President forever this probably isn't a good thing.

Autumn

(45,057 posts)
3. Well Charlie I gotta say, in 2016 it WILL be a different president
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:54 AM
Jun 2013
Christ on a crutch, what is wrong with these people.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
4. I try not to attend???? Well naturally everything just fine.............
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jun 2013

Fu**ing ostrich , get you're head out of the sand or where ever you got it stuck.
Oh, but I bet you're Johnny on the spot for those briefings with the lobbyists.
Charley, turn in you're (D at the door.

That's how republicans became viscous. Protective coloration after they let themselves get stupid.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
6. Pretty much embarrassing.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:31 AM
Jun 2013

This is the good part of our Congress. Not the absolute cream of the crop but pretty much deep into good territory.

Rangel is like Odysseus, Solomon, Galahad, and Andy Taylor rolled all into one compared to Philistines like Gohmert.

A desperate and sad state of affairs. I bet we couldn't come up with 200 better than old Charlie here and by his own admission he is pretty much worthless, at least in these matters other than for partisan reasons.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. "....based on my emotional and political beliefs." Rangel
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jun 2013
Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine
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