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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:36 PM Jun 2013

Hey, look, there are laws about when the government can snoop metadata. Let's see what they are

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-II/chapter-206

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-36/subchapter-III

The SCOTUS case Smith v. Maryland said that users of a phone do not have a Constitutional expectation of privacy about the numbers they call and receive calls from, because those numbers have been given to a third party to route them. So the privacy we have in that data is statutory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_v._Maryland

Just to make it clear: according to SCOTUS for over 30 years now, you do not have a Constitutional expectation of privacy in a number you dial.

The ECPA was an attempt to regulate the snooping of these metadata by law enforcement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Communications_Privacy_Act

The ECPA required law enforcement to get a court order to use an electronic device that captured the numbers dialed to and from a trunk or phone.

Just to make it clear: by statute since 1986, law enforcement must have a court order to find out what numbers you dial.

The PATRIOT act by statute expanded the same status to Internet traffic data, though apparently this had been more or less taken for granted by many courts before that.

FISA further extends the use of devices that track this meta-data by establishing a new clandestine court to grant the surveillance writs.

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Hey, look, there are laws about when the government can snoop metadata. Let's see what they are (Original Post) Recursion Jun 2013 OP
And all can be remedied by pipoman Jun 2013 #1
What about the rest of the metadata? hootinholler Jun 2013 #2
Cellular technology isn't my wheelhouse Recursion Jun 2013 #3
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
1. And all can be remedied by
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jun 2013

public outcry and statutory changes. Certainly you don't expect the general public to know all of this without public access? Why is this considered a leak if it is all above reproach? Why is the public outcrying? Maybe because we wish to trust those we elect to act in our best interest with liberal interpretations of our civil rights/liberties and calling out even veiled violations of those rights/liberties instead of passively continuing programs secretly established by previous congresses and presidents, eh?

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