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Are you as fearful of terrorism today as you were on Sept 11th, 2001? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2013 OP
I am about as fearful I guess el_bryanto Jun 2013 #1
about the same, which is not at all. more likely to shot by a 2nd amendment supporter n t msongs Jun 2013 #2
same here. I am more likely to die in traffic or Phentex Jun 2013 #34
Same here. Was not fearful then and am not now. Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #37
I was sad on 9/11 think Jun 2013 #3
I was not fearful on 9/11. I was angry, confused, and heartsick, but not afraid. Melinda Jun 2013 #4
i felt a lot of sadness then and for some time afterwards, but was never scared JI7 Jun 2013 #22
I was living in Atlanta at that time... the quiet of the City was deafening. Melinda Jun 2013 #26
I've never been fearful of foreign-based terrorism. I'm more afraid of my sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #5
No. octoberlib Jun 2013 #6
Sadly, yes eissa Jun 2013 #7
Does your fear come from actual terrorist attacks...? kentuck Jun 2013 #9
As irrational as it may sound eissa Jun 2013 #14
I am more afraid of the gun nuts and those who want to overthrow the US government and the corporati kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #8
I was never afraid of terrorism. I watched the towers burn upaloopa Jun 2013 #10
Few people thought the towers would collapse. kentuck Jun 2013 #13
"I do not see 9-11 as the awful thing other people see it as." geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24
I mean that we never should have or needed to have a war on terror. upaloopa Jun 2013 #27
Equally. Laelth Jun 2013 #11
Not then. Not now. Our governments reaction to it is far more scary. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #12
Wasn't afraid then, am not afraid now. I am though disgusted at what fear allowed to transpire NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #15
I was not fearful then. I am not fearful now. LWolf Jun 2013 #16
I was never fearful. nt G_j Jun 2013 #17
I wasn't afraid that day. I'm not now. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #18
On 9/11/01 I was inhaling other human beings that had been geek tragedy Jun 2013 #19
Although I wasn't afraid on 9/11 ( I live in NC) octoberlib Jun 2013 #39
Yeah, not knowing whether she was buried under rubble kind of sucked. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #40
i was not fearful then or now JI7 Jun 2013 #20
Same here. randome Jun 2013 #45
More. Thanks to gun nuttery proliferation and the NRAGOP. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #21
still at the bottom of any of my fears of things that could hurt me. KG Jun 2013 #23
I wasn't fearful back then. I was fearful of the clown circus Cleita Jun 2013 #25
Hear, hear! Laelth Jun 2013 #28
To take your last point one step further, would we trust any geek tragedy Jun 2013 #29
Precisely. Laelth Jun 2013 #32
Wow! That's an interesting hypothesis and Cleita Jun 2013 #31
You are very welcome. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #33
Exactly the same amount. Which is to say, ZERO. n/t Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #30
I guess so. I wasn't afraid then either. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #35
Not in the slightest. a la izquierda Jun 2013 #36
No, the chances are almost nothing. 9/11 will never happen again unless someone gets a nuke. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #38
hmmm, fearful... I want not fearful either then or now but... Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #41
I was never afraid. BlueStater Jun 2013 #42
I think there is more chance of AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #43
Haven't changed HarveyDarkey Jun 2013 #44
What made me most fearful that day SteveG Jun 2013 #46

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. I am about as fearful I guess
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jun 2013

I mean after 9/11 you accept that terrorism in the States is a possibility that it could affect me. Of course where I live isn't likely to be a high priority target - but still.

That said I don't think there's anything the Government could do to make me less fearful of Islamic or Homegrown Terrorists - they could take some steps to make me less fearful of them.

Bryant

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
34. same here. I am more likely to die in traffic or
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

have a tree fall on my house. Those are my real fears.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
37. Same here. Was not fearful then and am not now.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jun 2013

I am a second amendment supporter and am not afraid of them either.. I live in the lightening capital of the US and have had trees in my yard struck several times. If I worried about anything it would be that and it rarely crosses my mind.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
3. I was sad on 9/11
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

and fearful for what would happen if the hearts of America became blackened and hardened. My fears were realized with America's first declared preemptive war against a country that did not attack us.

Today the actions by whistle blowers and a few key Senators and congresspeople have alleviated much of my fear as has the changing opinions on national security by the majority of Americans...

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
4. I was not fearful on 9/11. I was angry, confused, and heartsick, but not afraid.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

If were to fear, then I'd most likely fear my own government. But that's a different thread.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
22. i felt a lot of sadness then and for some time afterwards, but was never scared
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jun 2013

if i was on the east coast and especially NYC i would probably feel different.

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
26. I was living in Atlanta at that time... the quiet of the City was deafening.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:18 PM
Jun 2013

We were all stunned. I recall having to run to Kroger (grocery) that afternoon (noonish est) and all one could hear in the store was the television anchors on CNN.... there was almost no talking within the store, although there was lots of muffled crying. We were all and each of us as zombies. Was surreal. And terribly sad. Still is all these years later.

Like you, I most probably would have felt fear if in NYC or the greater area.

:::sighz:::

sinkingfeeling

(51,434 posts)
5. I've never been fearful of foreign-based terrorism. I'm more afraid of my
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

fellow citizens, but I don't really worry about either.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
6. No.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jun 2013

The average American has a better chance of being killed in a car wreck or by a bee sting than in a terrorist attack. If Congress was really worried about protecting Americans than why didn't they pass gun control legislation?

eissa

(4,238 posts)
7. Sadly, yes
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

I live about an hour east of SF, and we go to the city fairly often. There isn't a time when I don't cross the Bay Bridge or Golden Gate that I don't secretly wonder if some lunatic doesn't look at all that traffic and think "bingo."

Now that SF was awarded the Super Bowl venue in 2016, we've been talking about going. And, yes, I do feel a bit anxious. What better event -- filled with thousands of people and viewed by millions -- for someone to do something really tragic.

I hate to give a voice to these fears, but I have them, and I don't know what -- if anything -- the government could do to alleviate it. But whatever they can LEGALLY do to ensure our safety, I'd be on board with.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
9. Does your fear come from actual terrorist attacks...?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

...Or from the authorities talking about it all the time?

eissa

(4,238 posts)
14. As irrational as it may sound
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jun 2013

it's from the attacks themselves. Even though I realize the chances are slim, even though I realize a dozen other things are more likely to kill me, I can't help but quietly fret about it. Anytime I'm at a huge public event, or a tourist destination, the thought does occur.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
8. I am more afraid of the gun nuts and those who want to overthrow the US government and the corporati
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

corporations and big money interests that are sowing the seeds of dissent and mistrust of our government for their own gain.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
10. I was never afraid of terrorism. I watched the towers burn
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jun 2013

and saw the plane hit the second tower on TV while I was getting dressed for work.
To this day I do not see 9-11 as the awful thing other people see it as. We should have seen it as a police matter and sought to find out what motivated it.
Because people blew 9-11 so way out of proportion we have had two wars the patriot act and Americans surrendering their freedom for some perceived notion that doing so will prevent another 9-11

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
13. Few people thought the towers would collapse.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:01 PM
Jun 2013

In fact, some businesses wanted their employees to go back to work.

But the huge loss of life resulted when they did indeed collapse. For the terrorists, it was a "lucky" strike. Some Arabs celebrated in the streets.

The "war on terror" began as a cover for Bush and Cheney's incompetence. They overlooked "intelligence" just like the type people are debating over today...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. "I do not see 9-11 as the awful thing other people see it as."
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jun 2013

Well, given you had the luxury of watching it on television, sure.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. I mean that we never should have or needed to have a war on terror.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jun 2013

I still believe in the lihop theory

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. Equally.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jun 2013

I wasn't fearful of terrorism then, and I am not fearful of it now. Over 40,000 people per year die in automobile accidents in the United States. You know what I am afraid of? I hate driving, and I hate riding in a car with someone else driving even more.

Unless you never get in a vehicle and ride on the public roads, it makes no sense to be afraid of terrorists.

imho ... admittedly, people come in all stripes ... ymmv



-Laelth

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. Not then. Not now. Our governments reaction to it is far more scary.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jun 2013

Like a madman trying to kill mosquitoes with a sledgehammer and smashing anything, or anybody, that gets in his way.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
15. Wasn't afraid then, am not afraid now. I am though disgusted at what fear allowed to transpire
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jun 2013

following 911.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
16. I was not fearful then. I am not fearful now.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jun 2013

I have not, in my entire 53 years, including 9/11/01 to the present, ever experienced a nano-second of fear of terrorism.

I have, from 9/11 forward, experienced continuously increasing levels of fury, disgust, and disdain for those who embrace fear; for those sheep who have allowed 9/11 to destroy our country by giving up our civil liberties to gain a false sense of security.

If I fear anything, it's the fascist neoliberal society that fearful Americans have allowed to develop, and the future it is leading us into.

It's not the government that can do anything to assuage that fear. That's in the hands of the majority. They can make me less fearful by being less compliant, less blind, less arrogant, less sheep-like, more aware, more willing to push back, more insistent on holding power accountable, more courageous, more principled, more determined.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
18. I wasn't afraid that day. I'm not now.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jun 2013

I was also miles away from actual events. Still, I wasn't worried my community would be next.

I was fearful of how Bush Inc would react, however. Rightly so.

What happened on September 11, 2001 was tragic and sad. So very sad. Horrible, simply horrible.

What happened afterward was a travesty of everything America claims to stand for.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. On 9/11/01 I was inhaling other human beings that had been
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jun 2013

incinerated in my city, so no not quite as scared today as I was then. Especially since my wife was directly under the WTC in a subway when the first plane hit. And my father in law who was visiting went missing for hours while trying to return home by train.

But yes, I was frightened and unnerved that day. I'm happy for those who had the privilege of never being afraid on that day.

And, I know that for some fucked up reasons AQ etc have an obsession with killing people in NYC, so there is still concern, but not so much that we don't live our lives as normal.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
39. Although I wasn't afraid on 9/11 ( I live in NC)
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jun 2013

I would have been scared shitless if I was a resident of NYC. I'd probably be suffering from PTSD because of it. Watching it all unfold on TV was heart-rending. Glad you and your family got through it.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
40. Yeah, not knowing whether she was buried under rubble kind of sucked.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jun 2013

But, we got through it, and no PTSD to boot.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
45. Same here.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jun 2013

It was clear from the outset that 9/11 was a 'one-off'. Shit happens from time to time.

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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
25. I wasn't fearful back then. I was fearful of the clown circus
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jun 2013

that had gained power in Washington and who allowed 9/11 to happen whether willfully or through stupidity. I was afraid of them and what they could do for the whole time they were in power.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
28. Hear, hear!
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

You are quite generous in calling that bunch a "clown circus." I was seriously afraid that Bush would not lay down the reigns of government in 2009. When people wonder why Obama refuses to prosecute the previous cabal, the answer seems quite simple to me. If Obama had not promised to let them off the hook, I don't think Bush would have surrendered his power.

-Laelth

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. To take your last point one step further, would we trust any
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jun 2013

presidential administration/regime to relinquish power if they were all but guaranteed to be prosecuted on the flip side?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
32. Precisely.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jun 2013

The cornerstone of the American "peaceful transition of government" model is that previous officeholders can not be prosecuted for crimes they committed while in office. Our founders learned a lot from studying the U.K.'s bad example. Prior to the Glorious Revolution, U.K. monarchs would lop off the heads of their enemies when they came to power, and our founders thought this was a bad idea. Jefferson enshrined our peaceful transition model in 1801 when he refused to persecute the Federalists who had viciously persecuted Jeffersonian Republicans when they were in power from 1789-1800.

So far, this model has worked for us.

-Laelth

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
31. Wow! That's an interesting hypothesis and
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jun 2013

it makes sense. I never thought of it that way. Thanks for your insight.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
36. Not in the slightest.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jun 2013

In 2001, I had only recently moved away from home in suburban NJ. I was 23 and 9/11 scared the hell out of me. I wouldn't fly, couldn't sleep, was scared to be in public places.

What happened? I grew up and realized I have enough stress with problems I CAN control, let alone panicking about things I cannot.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
38. No, the chances are almost nothing. 9/11 will never happen again unless someone gets a nuke. n-t
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jun 2013

Ohio Joe

(21,726 posts)
41. hmmm, fearful... I want not fearful either then or now but...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jun 2013

I do think there is a bigger chance of terrorism (in the US I assume) now. Waging a war across the world was about the stupidest response to 9/11 we could have done.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
42. I was never afraid.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jun 2013

You have a far greater risk of being killed in an automobile accident than you ever would in a terrorist attack. That being said, we don't fear cars, do we?

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
43. I think there is more chance of
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jun 2013

A giant earthquake, followed by a Tsunami to cover the city is more likely than a Terrorist attack, and I try not to think about that either...

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
46. What made me most fearful that day
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jun 2013

was that the Admin would use the event to destroy many basic liberties and freedoms of American Citizens. Sadly I was right.

What would lessen my fears, repeal of the Patriot Act.

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