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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:06 AM Jun 2013

Right-wing companies are being contracted to track your phone usage...

If that fact alone doesn't concern you, I don't know what should. You keep telling yourself that it was approved by judges... judges I might add that have only disallowed 12 FISA requests since the FISA Court came into existence. Yup. Shhhh... go back to sleep. There's nothing to be alarmed about...

On the graveyard shift tonight there's going to be some fat fuck who went to his Senior Prom with a cousin, who was forced because he didn't have a date and his Momma wanted him to go. He's going to be sitting in front of a bank of computer screens, looking for the Dirty Birdies. You know, the ones who do the bad stuff. He's going to be sucking the mayonnaise off of his Cheetoh stained fingers after eating his third bologna sandwich. One of his screens will be showing DU PMs going back and forth. He knows who the Dirty Birdies are...

As he undoes his pants while logging into Chat Roulette he'll be wondering just which DUer he should fantasize about fucking tonight. Of course he wouldn't be logging in if they didn't FORCE him to, by being Dirty Birdies. Tonight he's thinking he'll drop his soiled Kleenex into HER locker because he bets SHE'S a Dirty Birdie too.

In the morning when he gets home, he'll lie to his Momma about the Chat Roulette thing and hate himself for it, just like he does every day. He'll succeed though, one day, for sure. He'll get his Dirty Birdie... maybe a WHOLE FLOCK of Dirty Birdies.

Yeah, you keep chanting Judge Judge FISA FISA... You have NO IDEA who's watching your phone usage but you don't care because you've been TOLD it's legal, and it's for your own good.

Shhhh... go back to sleep.

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Right-wing companies are being contracted to track your phone usage... (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 OP
Aren't they just collecting metadata? No "fat fuck" is going through your email. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #1
Okay. No right wing subsidiaries of The Carlisle Group are collecting your phone usage. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #2
So are the rightwing CEOs of these telecom companies. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #5
The telecom CEOs can't ruin my life for calling the wrong number. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #8
It would be extremely hard for the NSA to ruin your life over a phone call to a wrong number. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #10
Impossible? Or just extremely hard? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #11
What would be their ulterior motive? These guys can't even find Snowden months after he left. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #14
Such trust marions ghost Jun 2013 #19
What are they looking for? Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2013 #15
We are all under watch marions ghost Jun 2013 #21
The metadata is even more useful for the NSA's Google for Tyrants than the actual contents. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #12
Your fat fuck also works for Yahoo or Google, and has access to all of your email arcane1 Jun 2013 #3
Shhhh... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #4
Sorry... arcane1 Jun 2013 #7
yeh well according to many around here.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #6
There is but one reason it's being defended. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #9
it does make him look bad. but this is his 2nd term.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #13
+1000. reformist2 Jun 2013 #17
kr nashville_brook Jun 2013 #16
people are kidding themselves if they think data collecting entities feel bound by courts or laws. KG Jun 2013 #18
+1 xchrom Jun 2013 #20
Not to mention, who did Bush hire to fill all the new National Security positions? Coyotl Jun 2013 #22
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
1. Aren't they just collecting metadata? No "fat fuck" is going through your email.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:09 AM
Jun 2013

ETA: I'm not advocating for it, I'm just saying hyperbole brings little to the debate.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
2. Okay. No right wing subsidiaries of The Carlisle Group are collecting your phone usage.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jun 2013

And no, they won't EVER use it in an untoward way. Not ever. After all, there are LAWS against that kind of stuff.

And, what the hell; it's for your own good.

Shhhh...

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
5. So are the rightwing CEOs of these telecom companies.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:16 AM
Jun 2013

How do we get THEM to stop collecting our metadata? Seems like a reasonable first step. I mean, at least the Govt is saying they're doing it for National security purpose, what's their excuse?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. It would be extremely hard for the NSA to ruin your life over a phone call to a wrong number.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:23 AM
Jun 2013

It doesn't work that way.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
11. Impossible? Or just extremely hard?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jun 2013

It works however they want it to work.

You trust the government. I don't. I haven't since I learned about the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, years after the fact. By that time, three of my Uncles had served in Vietnam, one was wounded, and two were never the same.

Nothing has changed other than technology, and they OWN technology.

Don't trouble yourself. It's for your own good, or so they say.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
14. What would be their ulterior motive? These guys can't even find Snowden months after he left.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:29 AM
Jun 2013

And he's been in contact with journalists via cellphone.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
15. What are they looking for?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:53 AM
Jun 2013

I mean, don't they already have an idea of who needs watching? By the way, I'm not in favor of any Patriot Act activity, but wonder what they could be looking for.......

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
21. We are all under watch
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:11 AM
Jun 2013

We are all guilty til proven innocent. We have no legal protections.

On Rachel Maddow last night James Bamford (writer about NSA activity) said that the FISA courts are a complete farce.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
12. The metadata is even more useful for the NSA's Google for Tyrants than the actual contents.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013

It takes more computing cycles to dig through phone calls and email text, while email headers and phone call metadata is already machine-readable, and provides plenty of information that obviates the need for actual eavesdropping.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. Your fat fuck also works for Yahoo or Google, and has access to all of your email
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:13 AM
Jun 2013

The government was last in line for this info!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Sorry...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jun 2013

From now on I'll send my comments via my totally-private-and-no-human-can-possibly-see it Gmail account, linked to my Facebook profile, and sent from my iPhone.

Nobody will ever know!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. There is but one reason it's being defended.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jun 2013

Some are afraid it will make President Obama look bad somehow.

We can't have that.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
13. it does make him look bad. but this is his 2nd term..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013

..now is when some action *can* happen on entrenched issues like the military-corporate-spy establishment.

a couple times i've wondered if obama *wanted* this to get leaked. he's dealing with a goliath of cheney/rummy's making in the DoD & friends.

maybe now people will get pissed enough to see some legislation we can sort of like, and that obama might want to sign.. while maintaining plausible deniability of course.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
17. +1000.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 07:55 AM
Jun 2013

It's sad, really. We ought to be calling the Republicans' bluff and getting them to work towards dismantling this whole program, like they *claim* they want to do right now.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
22. Not to mention, who did Bush hire to fill all the new National Security positions?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:29 AM
Jun 2013

No doubt, only those cleared by political operatives as loyal followers.

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