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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:05 PM Jun 2013

Dangerous Warmongering

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/6/13/132330/170

Dangerous Warmongering

by BooMan
Thu Jun 13th, 2013 at 01:23:30 PM EST


Bill Clinton is correct when he says that you can't let opinion polls be your guide to foreign policy. But when he compares the situation in Syria to the situation he faced in Kosovo, he's making one of the stupidest statements that I have ever heard from him.

“You just think how lame you’d be… suppose I had let a million people, two million people be refugees out of Kosovo, a couple hundred thousand people die, and they say, ‘You could have stopped this by dropping a few bombs. Why didn’t you do it?’ And I say, ‘because the House of Representatives voted 75% against it?’” Clinton said. “You look like a total wuss, and you would be.”


“If you refuse to act and you cause a calamity, the one thing you cannot say when all the eggs have been broken is, ‘Oh my god, two years ago there was a poll that said 80 percent of you were against it.’ You look like a total fool,” Clinton said.

First of all, the idea that the United States can "cause" a calamity in Syria is ridiculous. It is already a calamity, and it's not because of our inaction. And the idea that all we need to do to fix the calamity and solve the refugee problem is to "drop a few bombs" is beyond idiotic.

For Clinton to appear with John McCain and make comments like this is a perfect vindication of my total opposition to his wife's candidacy for president. We cannot afford more leadership from people who think about American power in this way. Obama has already overruled the advice of Hillary Clinton, the Joints Chiefs of Staff, then Director of the CIA David Petraeus, and then Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, and kept us out of the conflict in Syria. Now he has the former president intimating that he's a wuss and a fool.

This is what we gained when we won the presidency for Obama. A cool head.
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Dangerous Warmongering (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2013 OP
Scary that his thought process boiled down to Union Scribe Jun 2013 #1
Monica agrees. L0oniX Jun 2013 #2
This is what I'm a little worried about Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #3
It appears we are already in a cold war (of sorts) with Iran. Laelth Jun 2013 #4
Updating. Laelth Jun 2013 #6
Thank Dog Hillary is not Pres. Whisp Jun 2013 #5
seems as though the red line has been crossed boston bean Jun 2013 #7

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
1. Scary that his thought process boiled down to
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jun 2013

not wanting to "look like a total wuss." That sounds more like his successor.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
3. This is what I'm a little worried about
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

with his wife if she were to run again, since she did support the Iraq War at one point. Don't get me wrong--I'll vote for her over any Republican or 3rd party candidate any day of the week, but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't feeling a little antsy about some of her more hawkish views.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. It appears we are already in a cold war (of sorts) with Iran.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Thu Jun 13, 2013, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Syria is Iran's proxy, so it is not surprising that our more "hawkish" leaders are calling for intervention. It appears we want to take out Iran's ally before we take on Iran, itself.

President Obama is getting significant pressure on this, I suspect. If Bill Clinton is willing to comment on the subject in public, with Gramps (the best national figure the R's have), you know there has to be immense pressure on the President from all sides. That is not ordinary, nor is it good Presidential etiquette for Clinton to advise a sitting President like he did.

So far, it appears that the President is saying, "no," but I do wonder how long he can keep the dogs of war at bay.

Here's to the President.

My admiration for him is growing as I watch this mess unfold.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. Updating.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jun 2013

The release of info. today (saying Syria used chemical weapons against its citizens) is disturbing. If it cam from the White House, that would indicate that President Obama is caving, planning to go to war in Syria, and is launching a PR campaign to get the support of the American people.

That is not terribly admirable.

-Laelth

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
5. Thank Dog Hillary is not Pres.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jun 2013

Because her wuss husband would be at the reigns and not only talking stupid but doing stupid.

How i wish they would just go away to a nice retirement place somewhere on the moon.

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
7. seems as though the red line has been crossed
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jun 2013

and we will be doing something.

I guess the Big Dog, was out ahead of this one, probably giving Obama some cover.

It's not always what Booman thinks it is, is it.

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