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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:36 AM Jun 2013

Why should we petition to pardon Snowden when he has THOUSANDS

of classified documents on his thumb drive, we don't yet know what information is contained in them, and we don't know what he's going to be doing with them?

Doesn't asking to pardon him from unknown crimes seem a teensy bit premature?

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Why should we petition to pardon Snowden when he has THOUSANDS (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2013 OP
People who signed that petition are doing so without flamingdem Jun 2013 #1
I agree with you..I don't trust Snowden not one bit...I don't believe he is on the up and up for one Tippy Jun 2013 #2
I agree, the actions taken by Snowden is never acceptable and in violaton of the Code of Ethics for Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #3
I favor absolute transparency. Pardon him and protect him! morningfog Jun 2013 #4
Would you favor absolute transparency that precipitated a war? pnwmom Jun 2013 #6
You'll have to develop that hypothetical more. morningfog Jun 2013 #10
... huh? sibelian Jun 2013 #11
He's got thousands of classified documents. pnwmom Jun 2013 #13
So you're saying America's done something to piss someone off? sibelian Jun 2013 #14
People are strange, they feel the right to do what they want to. Rex Jun 2013 #5
If a few PowerPoint slides represent their best, there's probably not much else. randome Jun 2013 #7
Sounds like the Lounge. HappyMe Jun 2013 #9
The Snowden fans are like the Jonathan Pollard fans. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8
He's fast eroding his political capital CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #12
What came out about Great Britain? flamingdem Jun 2013 #15
Britain wants no part of him leftynyc Jun 2013 #19
I guess he may have attempted that from Hong Kong flamingdem Jun 2013 #20
Maybe it's because that's where leftynyc Jun 2013 #21
Hopefull he release ALL of them. bowens43 Jun 2013 #16
If wealthy private interests had not completely taken over our government, Zorra Jun 2013 #17
I feel he committed Treason, no sympathy for him at all!! watercolors Jun 2013 #18

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
1. People who signed that petition are doing so without
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jun 2013

understanding the role Snowden is playing. Or if they read and find out a lot of the claims are overblown then it becomes "well he's bringing attention to this issue".

Inadvertent results don't pardon him.

Tippy

(4,610 posts)
2. I agree with you..I don't trust Snowden not one bit...I don't believe he is on the up and up for one
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jun 2013

thing but that is my opinion..We need to learn more..Did you see the interview siht a so called friend/co-worker two days ago, did not like her or what she had ot say one bit I think I saw this on MSNBC but it could have been CNN...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. I agree, the actions taken by Snowden is never acceptable and in violaton of the Code of Ethics for
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jun 2013

his employment. I can not accept his "reasons" for revealing the information he was never to reveal. He is not trustworthy.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
6. Would you favor absolute transparency that precipitated a war?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jun 2013

We don't know what's in the classified documents or who might get infuriated.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
10. You'll have to develop that hypothetical more.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jun 2013

If we are doing things that would cause another nation to start a war with us if known, we shouldn't be doing it.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
13. He's got thousands of classified documents.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jun 2013

Since that could mean anything, no one should just assume they're all innocuous.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. People are strange, they feel the right to do what they want to.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jun 2013

Regardless of what you or I say.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. If a few PowerPoint slides represent their best, there's probably not much else.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jun 2013

Maybe some memos on assigned parking spaces, the updated cafeteria menus, maybe the latest 'synergies' memo and possibly some jokes about a company with the name of 'Booz'.

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CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
12. He's fast eroding his political capital
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jun 2013

by his apparent willingness to broker documents to the Chinese to avoid jail time. What principles.

And Great Britain wants no part of it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. Britain wants no part of him
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57589304/britain-to-airlines-dont-let-edward-snowden-fly-to-u.k/


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The British government has warned airlines around the world not to allow Edward Snowden, who leaked information on top-secret U.S. government surveillance programs, to fly to the United Kingdom.

A travel alert, dated Monday on a Home Office letterhead, said carriers should deny Snowden boarding because "the individual is highly likely to be refused entry to the U.K."

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
20. I guess he may have attempted that from Hong Kong
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jun 2013

but it's odd that they'd think he would try to got to Great Britain

This was more about being a staunch ally I guess

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. Maybe it's because that's where
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

The Guardian is published? No ally of ours is going to grant him entrance.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. If wealthy private interests had not completely taken over our government,
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

and we lived in a genuine democracy, your OP would be much more reasonable.

Unfortunately, here in the Corporate States of America, many of us no longer perceive our government as being derived from the consent of the governed, but see the government as derived from the manipulations and influences of wealthy private interests, effectively having become a government of, by, and for, the 1%.

Many of us perceive acts of corporate state spying on us as acts of aggression hostile to our sovereign individual and national democratic interests.

Edward Snowden, by simply drawing focused widespread attention on the arrogant, widespread invasion of our privacy by the 1%, has given people a bit of sorely needed hope for real change. Right or wrong, he has become a hero to many people, a hero that would be unnecessary if our country and government were not almost completely occupied by the 1%.

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