Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, McConnell all agree about Snowden and NSA

[Enrique]

The President and the Leaders of both houses of both parties. All on the same side.

i.e. it's not a partisan issue.

[Hydra]

1. The fact that they are all on the same page is a scary thing

Since Boehner and McConnell never do anything that isn't evil, that would mean someone else had to shift positions to get to where they're coming from.

[hobbit709]

2. Now I'm worried.

[Puzzledtraveller]

3. Excuse me a moment...

[Catherina]

4. They also all agree about putting corporate profit ahead of people's needs

so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

I would feel a LOT better if they disagreed. This birtisanship to protect one of the war machine's main tools isn't doing them any favors.

War with Iraq. Impeachment is off the table.... Who do they serve? We need direct democracy because they're not representing us.

[Enrique]

11. i'm debunking the folks dismissing it as a GOP faux scandal

which it's clearly not

[Catherina]

21. Thanks. Sometimes it's hard to know

especially with so many masks falling these days (lol!) so I asked you directly since I like your posts. Thanks Enrique.

No, it clearly is not but pretending is fun.

[graham4anything]

27. no, actually it is R.E.M. singing "it's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine".

I can't believe I started a mantra,was mocked and ridiculed, and barely a few months later it is clearer and clearer by the day that I was correct then,
and it is even more correct today.

[indepat]

16. Protecting: corporate profits, the wealthy's wealth, their own power base,

and the machinery to allow big brother to maintain the status quo are issues both parties agree on.

[Catherina]

22. to the detriment of the working class which seems to be waking up

I don't care how anyone does it- occupy, protest, boycott, strike, write, sue, ... We need to use all the legal tools at our disposal and come at them from all directions until they do what they're supposed to do which is to represent US, the working class, the backbone of this country.

Courage is contagious.

[indepat]

23. Republicans seem to be against any and every thing that promotes the general welfare and

large numbers of Democrats seem to dismiss this clause in the Preamble to the Constitution. Since the sage gipper came on the scene and foisted his voodoo economics upon us, what has been widely promoted by our government, supposedly of, by, and for the people, include: corporate welfare; welfare for the uber-wealthy; a falling standard of living; alarming unemployment and under-employment; laizze-faire governance coupled with non-punishment of corporate crime and criminals; accumulation of most of the nation's wealth among a relative few; burgeoning income disparity; a sickly population having alarming national infant and maternal mortality rates; and a nation that has fallen to or near the bottom among industrialized nations in almost all quality-of-life measurements. Add the event of perpetual wars since junior came on the scene. These are the fruits of a right-wing soused society wherein our politicians have been bought and are owned by monied interests requiring solely their interests to be promoted.

[G_j]

5. maybe it's a 1% issue....nt

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Ron Paul and Libertarians the world over are praising Snowden

You're right, this is definitely a non-partisan issue.

[stevenleser]

13. Add Ann Coulter to that list. nt

[MADem]

26. And the Koch-funded CATO Institute. And Ron Paul. nt

[DesMoinesDem]

7. When their power is challanged they show their true colors.

[forestpath]

9. +1000

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. So, they all agree that spying on Americans is a great idea. No shit.

[Egalitarian Thug]

10. That depends on which issue you are choosing to look at. Both republican and Democratic leadership

have always agreed that those in power should have more power and that no one else is allowed to participate in the game.

Edit: If Snowden were really clever and wanted to be the possible catalyst for change, he would have sat on this for another 10 months or so.

[stevenleser]

12. Not to mention Al Franken. nt

[Rex]

14. They hired a guy that was unqualifed for the job

and lied his ass off on his resume. SHOULD THAT worry some of us? They have no oversight on these contracts? They don't do background checks anymore on who they hire?

This is one FUCKED UP government, if that is the case.

[Enrique]

15. also, the Director of National Intelligence lied to Congress under oath

but I'm sure he has all the proper qualifications.

[Rex]

17. Yes that was something that made me change my mind about a few things.

When the boss is lying his ass off...just what the hell is going on here? AND OF COURSE CONGRESS just went along with it. What a pathetic joke of a ruling body they are! Like a toothless guard dog. Worthless like a pitcher of spit.

[BlueCheese]

18. My guess: Obama, Boehner, and McConnell actually believe the NSA program is the right thing to do.

Reid I'm not sure about.

Pelosi is a partisan. Her loyalty would cause her to cut her arms off before she contradicted Obama on something.

[Stop Pebble Mine]

19. All on the same (other) side.

Enrique is correct. This is not a partisan issue. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO), Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), etc., are all on the same side - the side Peter Yarrow (of PP&M) sang about in his song "Don't Ever Take Away My Freedom". The Leaders of both parties are sounding like the Nixon Administration in the early '70s when Daniel Ellsberg exposed gov't malfeasance via the release of the Pentagon Papers. Both parties need to get new leadership and show hacks like Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, and McConnell the door.

[hrmjustin]

20. Welcome to DU my friend!

[Stop Pebble Mine]

24. Thanks hrmjustin

Thanks hrmjustin - I hope I'm welcome here. I've been more inspired by Democrats like JFK/RFK/Mo Udall and mavericks like Dennis Kucinich as opposed to the corporate, 'my party right or wrong' Pelosi/Reid/Obama/H.Clinton Democrats who are more like Wall St. Republicans. It seems like current Dem leaders, and their counterparts in the GOP, try to keep the rest of us ginned up on a few hot button issues like gay marriage, abortion, and gun control, while allowing companies like Monsanto and too-big-too fail investment firms to run roughshod over the rest of us. When the top contributor to both Romney and Obama is the same (Goldman Sachs) something is wrong. I'm not sure if a message like this is ok at this site or is considered heresy - if the latter, I guess I'll get kicked out.

[hrmjustin]

25. I hope you enjoy this site and find a home here my friend!

[Major Hogwash]

28. No, it is not a partisan issue at all.

It's about the security of this country.

[Bluenorthwest]

29. In a national security context I have to see a chain of command working.

That means that even if you are going to gut a guy like Snowden you have to deal with the fact that his hiring and supervision were supremely incompetent in a field where the incompetent can cause great injustice or allow horrible attacks.
That whole Bush era habit of noticing problems and taking no action, or deciding an institutional torture program was Liddy England's fault can not be repeated in this case. We pay that company billions. Accountability.

[woo me with science]

30. When the people wake up to what is being done to them

and start to demand answers and accountability regardless of party, of course the long denied collusion between the two corporate parties is finally exposed.

These corporatists have been walking hand in hand all along, on virtually every major issue important to the One Percent. We are only seeing their collusion and clinging together more clearly on *this* issue, because the outage across the country is finally bipartisan, and they can no longer hide behind their carefully propagandized Red and Blue Teams to pretend they are on opposite sides.

[Stop Pebble Mine]

31. Thank you woo me with science

As a newbie here (joined today so I could comment on this thread) was worried that maybe I would be kicked out for not being in knee-jerk lockstep w/ current Dem leadership. Your post, and the fact that you've made over 20,000 so far, gives me hope that this site is not just made up of a bunch of Harry/Hillary/Nancy butt-kissers.