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JOSH MARSHALL JUNE 14, 2013, 6:13 PM
Man, the Chief of Staff of the Australian Army is not kidding around when it comes to sexual harassment
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/06/wow_20.php?ref=fpblg
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)MuseRider
(34,105 posts)elected official in this country. EVERY one.
They need to see what a spine and conviction for the people means.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)I'd love to see that kind of commitment from some of our military leaders.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)stand up and not accept racist, sexist or homophobic speech or actions.
you might lose a moron friend or two, but you will gain self respect and respect of others that witness this.
niyad
(113,257 posts)disgrace of the senate just this week caving in about dealing with sexual abuse in the military? too bad we can't hire this guy to come in and do the right thing.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I thought they'd enjoy it but then I changed my mind.
Glad to see this posted. He is getting serious props for his statements.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:09 AM - Edit history (1)
Judge: Obama sex assault comments unlawful command influence.Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of unlawful command influence derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week.
Navy Judge Cmdr. Marcus Fulton ruled during pretrial hearings in two sexual assault cases U.S. vs. Johnson and U.S. vs. Fuentes that comments made by Obama as commander in chief would unduly influence any potential sentencing, according to a court documents obtained by Stars and Stripes
On Wednesday and Thursday, Fulton approved the pretrial defense motions, which used as evidence comments that Obama made about sexual assault at a May 7 news conference:
The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this, Obama said, according to an NBC News story submitted as evidence by defense attorneys in the sexual assault cases.
I expect consequences, Obama added. So I dont just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebodys engaging in this, theyve got to be held accountable prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.
Continued in article:
http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3021078
I posted on that thread. Obama and the Australian man reflect my views. The perception is being created that Americans have no one leading on this, despite Obama being on the case. I posted what Obama said in May, but no one wanted to hear it. The full story below from then is below, but this new one where they use Obama stating his policy to deny enacting it is disgusting.
We need to toss out those who don't give sexual assault the attention it deserves. We need more Gillenbrands, McCaskills and Murrays in office and less who kowtow to the old ways. I love the Australian using the words, 'brothers and sisters.' We have a long way to go to respecting those who try to move this country forward.
Obama: 'No tolerance' for military sexual assault
By Michael O'Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News
News Conference, East Room, White House, May 7, 2013.
...The president said he had spoken today with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to urge him to exponentially step up efforts to identify suspects in assaults, and aggressively prosecute those cases.
The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this, Obama said at a press conference following his meeting with South Korean President Park Geun-hye.
I expect consequences, Obama added. So I dont just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebodys engaging in this, theyve got to be held accountable prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.
For those who are in uniform whove experience sexual assault, I want them to hear directly from their commander in chief that Ive got their backs, the president said. I will support them. And were not going to tolerate this stuff, and there will be accountability...
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18107743-obama-no-tolerance-for-military-sexual-assault?lite
Our President speaks powerfully, but it's not news...
Number23
(24,544 posts)Although that really shouldn't matter.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The fact that Obama is not in uniform, doesn't take away from his being Commander In Chief. Although some in the military are Birthers and Dittoheads who don't want to see any change from the Bad Old Days.
The only way to stop them is to load all the committees with people who are going to fight them on this. They pass the regulations for the military, the armed forces are under civilian control, but too many regressives are being allowed there, but that's not the majority, I bet.
Seeing the posts of our DU veterans and active service people, I can't believe the bad apples get their support.
Those who think the Tea Party's Koch mouthpieces are going to give women or the vulnerable in any regard any rights, really need to get their heads out of the Koch litter box. We need more people in Congress to change this, and they can rewrite those codes.
I don't fault the attorneys for pulling this complaint out of their hat, but do fault the judge. McCaskill voted against a person who overturned the verdict that found someone guilty for assault. That is one of the military judges like this one. Gillenbrant wanted to move these prosecutions to other courts, IIRC, if they are going to continue down the road Obama says is unacceptable.
We can still do this, it's not impossible by any means.
niyad
(113,257 posts)in this country is beyond appalling and obscene.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)And this guy does it in spades.
I would not like to find myself standing in front of his desk after having screwed up.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Edit to add: fuck that... this is what a decent human being looks like.
Mushroom
(341 posts)then get out."
This wasn't directed at the victims of sexual harassment. Wow. There you go, sexual harassers. Not only does it matter what the Chief of Staff of the Australian Army thinks of you, it matters what women think of you.