11-Year-Old Boy Impregnates Friend’s Mom

[jakeXT]

An 11-year-old Auckland boy fathered a child after having sex with a school friend's 36-year-old mother.

Contact between the boy and the woman reportedly began right around April of last year, when the boy was 11.

The woman's son took a day off school and encouraged his friend to do likewise, spending the day at his home.

During the course of the day, the woman gave the boy beer and then later took part in a sexual encounter with him.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/headlines/11-year-old-boy-impregnates-friend-s-mom

[DiverDave]

1. Sick, sick, SICK

what is the matter with that woman?
ELEVEN??
she needs to be in jail, and get rid of that baby.
A 12 year old doesnt need to be a dad.

[Aerows]

16. Not "get rid of that baby"

but that poor child needs to be taken away from her and adopted by someone responsible and loving ASAP.

[TorchTheWitch]

28. does no one here read?

The baby was taken by social services soon after it was born.

Right there in the article.

[Aerows]

34. Thank goodness

And it's still early in the morning. I haven't had nearly enough coffee this morning, and shouldn't be posting yet because I've messed up twice in this thread. Sorry.

[derby378]

100. One of these days, that poor kid is going to learn about his birth parents

He or she might wind up with great foster parents, but sooner or later the question's going to come up about his mom and dad. "They were killed in a car crash" probably isn't going to fly in the age of the Internet. The child is going to learn sooner or later, and I don't think I want to be anywhere in the vicinity when that happens.

[hlthe2b]

8. That's your response to an 11 year old being raped & exploited like this?

I don't find it funny--at all. I'm a little horrified you seem to find this story nothing more than fodder for "Penthouse"...

[Egalitarian Thug]

21. There are ~7,000,000,000 people on this planet. Absolutely everything that you can imagine,

from the most wonderful to the most horrible, and so much more happens every single day. This event, should it even be true, is nowhere near either end of that range. The only thing that is different about this particular instance is that you have been made aware of it.

Do you honestly believe that a woman being impregnated by a barely pubescent boy is in any way comparable on the scale of daily horror to the probably tens or hundreds of thousands of actual atrocities that were committed yesterday, or will be committed today, and many of them by our own government?

This is the issue you've determined is the one you're going to freak out about today?

What about the 30 year old woman, the 11 year old boy, and the newborn infant that will be turned into a red mist today by a 19 year old American "hero" sitting in an air conditioned office on a military base in Floriduh? Is that OK simply because you won't be told about it?

Somebody else on this very thread is saying that they would support a forced abortion if the child hadn't already been born, but my joke is the problem...

[hlthe2b]

22. That you make light of pedophilia says everything I (or anyone here) needs to know

about you.... That there may be another post that is disgusting does not diminish your own and you do own it.

[Egalitarian Thug]

30. Yeah, well enjoy the rage. I'll be losing much sleep over your opinion, I'm sure. n/t

[undeterred]

31. Nice try, but NO.

[Egalitarian Thug]

44. Not trying anything. But it is reassuring to know that it is still simplicity itself to

predict what is going to be deemed relevant here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023026115
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023026136
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023026261
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023026137
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023026017
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023025393

See #30.

[Orrex]

48. It's curious that you had those so readily available at your fingertips

[Egalitarian Thug]

63. Yeah, it took all of a minute to scroll down the page. Another curious thing

Last edited Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)

is the striking familiarity of all the names in the swarm.

Feel free to be as outraged as you like over this titillating non-story. I'll choose to pay attention to things that might actually have some effect on me and those I do care about.

[Orrex]

68. Well, I've seen your posts.

You certainly don't spend all of your time railing against the myriad injustices of this our modern world, so you really don't have any credibility when you complain about others responding to a particular part of that world.


Also, it's pretty easy to gauge the emptiness of a person's rhetoric by observing how quickly that person accuses others of being "outraged." You made it exactly one post into our exchange before you deployed that tactic.


Hmm...

[MattBaggins]

87. Let me highlight the pertinent parts of your comment

things that might actually have some effect on ME and those I do care about

[Egalitarian Thug]

94. Why yes. I think that I made it perfectly clear that your opinion, as well as that of the rest

of your gang, is utterly meaningless to me.

How long did it take you to work that out?

[undeterred]

69. Posting about a child rape in Penthouse

and then trying desperately to change the subject.

[Earth_First]

50. Swing and a fucking miss... n/t

[Logical]

65. So it is funny because worse things happen daily. LOL, you are a class act. n-t

[Egalitarian Thug]

67. So you're not going to join my fan club?

Now I'm very sad...

[Whisp]

92. sick puppy.

[Ilsa]

79. I said "if the victim's parents support it." I also said

it is worth discussing. Don't misrepresent what I said.

My point is that rapists shouldn't get to control their victim's lives by forcing unwanted offspring on them.

[uppityperson]

107. Don't get upset about anything because something worse may happen. Oh. Kay.

[In_The_Wind]

45. +1

[Cal Carpenter]

53. Fucking disgusting

What the fuck is wrong with you and the 4 jurors who thought your post was appropriate?

This is an eleven year old boy. What the fuck.

[Logical]

60. Wow, classy. A normal person would self delete. I doubt you will. n-t

[Egalitarian Thug]

64. Oh, and here's another one. Oh my...

[Logical]

66. Sick post by you. No one is defending it but you. And you still are trying. Some idiots have....

trouble admitting they are wrong.

[bettyellen]

78. he's the DUer that jokes about raping kids. and the jury let it stand. what a pile of shit.

[In_The_Wind]

3. Rape

During the course of the day, the woman gave the boy beer and then later took part in a sexual encounter with him.

The sexual contact continued for a number of months after the initial encounter. The boy had turned 12 by the time the child was born.

Social services took the baby into care about two months ago.

The boy approached his principal in his office about two-thirds of the way through the 2012 school year and told him he had a disclosure to make.

"You won't be very happy with me," he recalled the boy saying. He said he had been having sex with his friend's mother "and it needs to stop

[Aerows]

17. Poor kid

I feel so badly for him. That was pure out rape and molestation of a child.

[In_The_Wind]

23. It didn't say anything about the principal calling child protective services.

School employees are mandated reporters.

[Shrek]

37. It's in one of the links within the article

The principal said the boy was "very aware" of the gravity of the situation and resolute that the inappropriate conduct should stop.

The principal did not hesitate to contact Child, Youth and Family Services, "We got CYF involved the minute we found out about it."

[In_The_Wind]

39. Thank you. My computer service is slowing me down again.

[safeinOhio]

4. After a couple of beers,

the kid started to look like a 14 year old.

[Logical]

62. You really think this is fucking funny? 11 year old raped and you make a sick joke. n-t

[aikoaiko]

84. Jury Results

I understood what you were trying to accomplish. Two other jurors did too.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

At Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:31 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

After a couple of beers,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3026359

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

making a joke of the rape of an 11 year old boy??? nobody would say anything so revolting if this were an 11 year old girl. FFS this is sexual abuse of a young child!

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:41 AM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: I agree with the alert.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: subject very sensative...child molestation
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think this comment is a snarky criticism of those who sympathized with adults having sex with 14 year olds. He's not really making fun of the situation. He's making fun of kiddie rapists and their apologists.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: In the context of the recent story about the two high school kids, I don't see this as violating the TOS.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Orrex]

5. The boy was raped. Why does the article's headline not indicate this?

If a 36 year old man had impregnated an 11 year old girl, you can bet that it wouldn't be framed as a deliberate act by the girl. Certainly not if he'd given her alcohol first.

He would be described as a pedophile, a predator and a monster.


Instead, the article makes it seem like the boy was a consenting partner.

[mercuryblues]

14. CNN wrote the headline

[Orrex]

15. I know.

[gollygee]

83. They don't call it "rape" when it's a girl victim either

I've often complained about this. When the victim is a child, it's "sexual molestation" or even just "sexual encounter" or "sex." I don't know why it isn't called "rape" but it absolutely should be.

I do agree that people more often suggest that the boy should be happy about it (as in the penthouse discussion upthread) when it's a boy though.

[Orrex]

86. Good point--it should be called what it is in all cases

However, I've been told that we shouldn't be upset about this, because something worse is probably happening somewhere, so it's all good.

[Squinch]

128. This, exactly. The 11 year old boy did not impregnate anyone. The 36 year old woman raped the

11 year old boy.

This thread is disturbing from beginning to end.

[Archae]

6. This stuff is common in Japanese porn.

At least, it used to be years ago...

[AsahinaKimi]

108. I seriously doubt that

Japanese porn had anything to do with this, and Japan has since made laws against that kind of thing, so why bring it up?

[boston bean]

9. This woman needs to be charged for rape

and sent to jail.

[Aerows]

18. Absolutely

she's changed that little boy's entire life with her perversion. Poor little guy

[LWolf]

99. Yes. nt

[SummerSnow]

10. grrrrrrr

[Ilsa]

11. I believe this might be the one time that a forced

abortion by the state (if the victim's parents wish it) would be okay. I mean, this crime is so heinous, that I think it might be worth discussing.

I realize she already had the baby, but if she was still pregnant, i would want to discuss it.

[ForeignandDomestic]

61. Unbelievable.........

Are you serious?

So much for a woman's choice huh?

[Ilsa]

76. She's a rapist and a pedophile.

She didn't give that 11 year old boy a choice. A choice would have required her to wait 7 years.

Should rapists of any sex force others to bring their children into the world? Even if he isn't physically pregnant? What if he doesn't want his DNA mixed with that of a criminal sociopath?

A child's DNA was stolen and he was forced to become a father at age twelve. Does the victim or his proxy have zero to say in this matter? I think it's a worthwhile discussion of rights if freedom from becoming a parent, regardless of whether he (or his parents) is financially responsible for the offspring.

What if her eggs had been stolen, impregnated and implanted into a surrogate?

[whopis01]

90. She is a rapist and a pedophile and woman and a human

To answer your question, it should be up to the surrogate and the surrogate alone whether or not she should have an abortion.

Just because you contribute DNA does not mean you should get any special say over the situation.

The 11 year should have no requirement to have contact or responsibility for the child - but in no way should he or his family be able to demand that someone else - even a criminal - be forced to have an abortion.

[Ilsa]

93. So it's okay if a person has a child out there,

No contact, not knowing if a future offspring might be hooking up with him/her? Not knowing what happened to your flesh and blood? I wouldn't want that and I suspect there are others.

I think you give the rapist too much control over what is happening to the victim. The perpetrator shouldn't have the final say over the victim having a baby.

I completely disagree about the victim's rights when what they only did was unwillingly contribute DNA. I'd feel the same way if a woman raped a grown man at gunpoint.

[whopis01]

116. If they don't want to know - yes

If they don't want to know about the offspring then yes, I am perfectly ok with it.

If they want to know about the offspring then they should be able to know about it.

What they should not be able to do is command that a woman have a force abortion.

In my opinion, and I realize this may not be yours, a fetus is a biological event tied to a woman's body. At least until the point where the fetus is biologically viable on its own (haven't really come to a hard conclusion on that personally - maybe until birth). So as far as I am concerned it is part of her body. That makes it her decision. No matter how fucked up she is. No matter how evil she is.

To force her to have an abortion is akin to cutting off the hand of a thief. Is it a logical conclusion? In some sense, yes... You cut off the hand so the thief can not steal again - you abort the fetus so it will not cause more harm to the victim. But it is a cruel logic. Not the logic of a civilized society.

If the concern is actually that the victim may "be hooking up" with their offspring... As unlikely as that may be... There are other solutions for that. Iceland has a system in place already due to their relatively small, confined population.

[Ilsa]

137. This is about The Victim having the choice

Not the rapist. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3030685

Rape is about control. If the victim doesn't want his DNA combined with his rapist's then I think a safe chemical or surgical abortion is reasonable.

[whopis01]

158. Even criminals have human rights.

We don't live in a society where the victim gets to decide what happens to the perpetrator of a crime.

And women - all women - have a right to choose what happens to their bodies when it comes to pregnancy.

I understand your concern is with protecting the victim as much as possible. But to say "This is about The Victim" and then throw all other societal impacts out the window is just not acceptable. In fact, what it is doing is allowing the rapist to have far more reaching control and influence over society as a whole. Deciding that women's rights are not quite so absolute sacrifices far more than is gained by such action.

Sacrificing fundamental rights for an immediate benefit is a very dangerous path.

[uppityperson]

144. Thank you and exactly. eom

[uppityperson]

120. If a woman raped a man at gunpoint and got pregnant, the choice is STILL up to her. The pregnant

female, her choice. Period. No forced abortions, no forced childbearing. CHOICE is choice.

[Ilsa]

136. This isn't about her stealing from a dollar store.

You're saying a rape victim has to become a parent, one of the most intimate emotional activities in a lifetime, even if they aren't raising the child. That can't be undone. That's as bad as Congresscritters saying "its God's will" when a woman rape victim gets pregnant. Forcing something else on a male rape victim is as obscene as doing it to a female rape victim. Victims do not normally want their DNA combined with a rapist's.

An abortion is a safe procedure. If the perpetrator is offended by that, then she shouldn't have fucking raped the victim. She violated him, and will continue the violation through a pregnancy. It should always be the victim's choice to continue a pregnancy from rape, not the rapist's.

[uppityperson]

143. I am saying no one should force any woman to have an abortion, period. CHOICE is choice.

I have a lot of sympathy with a raped man but the CHOICE is up to the pregnant woman. She should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and the resulting baby, if any, be offered first to the raped man and then put up for adoption/taken in by the court system.

It should always be the woman's choice whether or not to continue a pregnancy. Period.

And you can hold your snark, it adds little positive to the discussion.

[Ilsa]

151. And I'm saying when there is a victim involved,

It's their choice. A felony as heinous as rape should negate the perpetrator's right to decide, in favor of the victim. The victim, not the rapist, should decide whether they want a lifelong link to their rapist. The victim's needs supersede the criminal's desires.

Adopted out or not, it's still a lifelong link.

[uppityperson]

155. There can be things put in place to not have contact. If the victim gets pg, then it is her choice.

If the pregnant woman is the rapist, still her choice. It is the pregnant woman's choice whether to continue the pregnancy. In cases like this, it is the victim's choice whether or not to have a relationship or any contact with any resulting child. But as far as abortion? It is up to the pregnant woman/girl. Her choice.

You believe in forced abortions in some cases. I understand that. I don't. Ever.

The victim here can have no contact, ever, if he so desires. But not his choice to continue the pregnancy.

[whopis01]

159. So if it is the victim's choice

and the victim decides that he wants the child to be born but the rapist wants an abortion what would you have done?

Would you have the rapist be forced to carry the child to full term because there is a victim connected via DNA?

[Ilsa]

165. If it is the victim's choice to not be connected

to the rapist, then I think there should be an abortion.

If the rapist wants an abortion for herself, fine. The victim shouldn't force her to carry the pregnancy.

But I don't think it's right for a rapist to force their victim to become a parent, whether it is a man or a woman, whether the victim has contact or responsibility, or not.

In three out of four possible scenarios, there would be an abortion because the victim doesn't want to bring a child into the world sharing DNA with a rapist, or because the rapist herself wants an abortion.

Frankly, I don't know why that's so hard to understand. People have the right to decide who they create a baby with, and it needs to be mutual. People search for years for a mate to procreate with. Why would anyone, male or female, abandon their standard because of a rape?

I don't think anyone, male or female, who is victimized should be forced to become a parent (present or not) because they've been raped.

You don't like forced abortion. I don't like forced pregnancy and forced parentage for men any more than for women.

[whopis01]

166. To simply say that I "don't like forced abortion" misses the point of my argument

I'll simplify it to be clear.

Pregnancy is a biological process that occurs within the body of a woman. It is that woman's right to decide what happens with her body.


I understand that you disagree with this. I understand that you feel that in the case of rape, at least, the tragedy of a victim being forced to become a parent against their will outweighs the female rapist's right to control her body. You have your opinion and I have mine. And that is fine. I just wanted to be clear that my opinion was not specifically about the concept of forced abortions.

The right of a woman, any woman, to control her body is absolute in my mind. That may trouble some. That may cause pain for some. But that doesn't mean it is the wrong thing. Sacrificing fundamental rights for an immediate benefit is a very dangerous path.

[Ilsa]

167. That would have the victim sacrifice his

fundamental right not to procreate with someone of his choosing.

People like to think it would be a simple thing: big deal if the man has a kid out there. But their wives, partners, even other children could suffer. It is certainly an emotional issue, especially if the parent discovers their offspring is in a horrible living situation like foster care. And I don't trust government in their promise not to keep the father financially responsible.

I'll remind you that there are many things we have to endure medically to conform to laws, including vaccinations, mandated doctors exams, etc. An abortion, especially if medical, is noninvasive. Even an early term surgical abortion carries very little risk.

I maintain that the right to be free of parenting someone else's child conceived in the commission of a felony is every bit as important as the rapist's right to determine what happens in her womb. There are also consequences, sometimes natural, sometimes legal, to criminal behavior.

[uppityperson]

168. That is not a fundamental right. And "An abortion, especially if medical, is noninvasive"? What?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_rights

Fundamental rights are a generally regarded set of legal protections in the context of a legal system, wherein such system is itself said to be based upon this same set of basic, fundamental, or inalienable "rights." Such rights thus belong without presumption or cost of privilege to all human beings under such jurisdiction. The concept of human rights has been promoted as a legal concept in large part owing to the idea that human beings have such "fundamental" rights, such that transcend all jurisdiction, but are typically reinforced in different ways and with different emphasis within different legal systems.

http://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/constitutional-law/outline-constitutional-law-law/equal-protection-outline-constitutional-law-law/fundamental-rights/

"An abortion, especially if medical, is noninvasive." What other type abortions are there besides medical? If you meant the abortion pill, that works only to 59/60 days.

[Ilsa]

169. Your Wiki definitions

do not change how any one who has been raped feel about forced pregnancy and forced parenting. That's a lifelong abomination.

[uppityperson]

170. Your goalpost changing does not go unnoticed. eom

[TorchTheWitch]

150. Amen

Her body, her choice. Period. Doesn't matter if she's a criminal or the most heinous person on earth. It's still her body and still her choice. Neither forced abortion nor forced childbearing is remotely acceptable. Both remove a woman's right to her own body.

[cbdo2007]

164. Agree, the person raped gets to decide.

though knowing DU, many people here would be happy for her to have the baby and start making the kid pay child support.

[WVU]

12. Wow.

Some of the comments in here are truly disgusting. A kid got raped and some people want to joke about it. Super.

Barf.

[Aerows]

19. Where in here are you reading comments

that people are thinking this is anything but pedophilia and rape of a child? I've yet to see one.

[TorchTheWitch]

26. try #2 and #4 for starters n/t

[Aerows]

33. My bad

I didn't get the jokes . This is absolutely horrifying, and to see someone commenting as a brush-off is entirely stupid. As was my comment that no one did. I didn't realize what the posters were implying.

[Orrex]

27. You might take another look at replies 2 & 4

These, I believe, are the "jokes" in question.

[Aerows]

32. Sorry, I didn't get the jokes

I guess I didn't read them enough. I don't see this as something to joke about at all

[Orrex]

38. Yeah, we're on the same page about that.

Sadly, though, it illustrates the point that I was making previously; if a 36-year-old male had impregnated an 11-year-old girl, no one would be joking about it.

However, since the genders are reversed, some people think it's comedy gold.

[Aerows]

40. And it's sick as hell

Either way. It says a lot of shameful things about society that anyone could consider this "comedy gold".

[TorchTheWitch]

52. and a 4-2 jury considered it comedy gold

[Aerows]

54. Good grief

I can't say anything else

[TorchTheWitch]

58. same for the other one except results 3-3

I can see now why I was the only one to bother sending alerts. Might as well get rid of any moderation system here since this one is clearly worthless.

[Aerows]

72. Pretty much

It took a lot of energy to be a moderator, but this one is no moderation at all, pretty much, unless it is so egregious that it burns your eyes to look at it.

[Logical]

74. Yes, Skinner failed on the Jury system. It is basically worthless now. n-t

[Logical]

71. The jury system is a fucking joke. In the old days the Admins would have locked the POS. n-t

[Aerows]

73. I would have locked a bunch of things in this thread

But that was DU2.

[Logical]

75. yep. n-t

[In_The_Wind]

24. Hello ~ WVU

[img][/img] We don't joke about rape here.

[WVU]

43. Thanks!

And that's real good. I hate reading stories about victimized kids of either sex, then finding out it's all one big laugh riot to a few folks.

[In_The_Wind]

47. It's nothing to laugh about.

I hope you feel at home on DU.

[TorchTheWitch]

25. I was just going to say the same thing

Disgusting.

Welcome to DU.

[WVU]

41. Thanks!

[Le Taz Hot]

160. Correction.

ONE person (who is now on my Ignore list) made a "joke" and was called on it. As far as the "forced abortion" shit I've seen it on here before. Too many are pro-choice until they're not. Back when Michelle Dugger was pregnant with her 20th child, you should have seen these "pro choice" people screaming about forced sterility.

[B Calm]

13. Women are horny as hell at the age

of 36, but this is so sick!

[Aerows]

36. What the hell?

Dear me, what a damn response to this.

[In_The_Wind]

42. Sigh!

[a la izquierda]

77. Are you fucking serious??

Nt

[Scootaloo]

103. Three stooges voted to keep this post

[Number23]

119. There is something so sick about the jurying in this thread

Nasty shit allowed to stand.

My heart breaks for this child. The fact that HE (at the ripe old age of 12) knew that this relationship was bad and wrong enough to tell somebody "that this needed to stop" absolutely breaks my heart. Lord only knows how this is going to affect him for the rest of his life.

[one_voice]

118. What the fuck would you know about women?

not a fucking thing that's what. You know less about class, given this disgusting post. Anyone that jokes about a kid being raped and makes it about someone being horny...

[uppityperson]

121. A woman is so horny she drugs an 11 yr old and rapes him? Good lord, it isn't about being "horny"

but about control. Pedophilia is sick and not because someone is "horny".

[Texasgal]

134. What?

Have you lost you mind?

NO. Women are not "horny as hell" This was fucking child abuse... PERIOD! Good GOD!

[MadrasT]

139. Jesus Christ. This is not about "horny" women.

It's pedophilia.

[Le Taz Hot]

161. There are so many things wrong with that

statement I wouldn't know where to start. Oh wait. Yeah, I do.

[sigmasix]

20. not sex- it's called rape of a child or pedophilia

This woman should spend a major portion of the remainder of her life in prison. An 11 year old boy is not capable of giving consent for a "sexual" experience with an adult. Childhood victims of rape spend decades of thier life dealing with the emotional damage and sexual dysfunctions that result from forced sexualization and sick declarations of romantic love for the victim.
I hope this boy is able to find safety from the rapist and her sick objectification of him.

[Aerows]

35. +1 n/t

[chervilant]

29. People need to know

that the sexual abuse of children happens all too frequently, that we need harsher penalties for those who prey on children, and that survivors of these horrific crimes should never be blamed or made the fodder for anyone's insensitive 'jokes'!

[redqueen]

110. +1 ... and it's good to see people picking up on the way these things are framed

she wasn't 'having sex' with him she was RAPING him.

[Nye Bevan]

46. "36-year old adult rapes 11-year old child".

There, fixed.

This reminds me of the Roman Polanski rape.

[Sanity Claws]

51. Headline should read: Friend's mom rapes 11 year old boy

This is so sick.

[Sunlei]

55. NZ laws are different- Present legislation stipulates the crime of rape applies only when men force

Good the boy went to his school principle and asked for help.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

56. omg. sick.

[rucky]

57. She belongs in Sudden Valley

after jail

[Butterbean]

59. I have 2 young sons. I find nothing hilarious or sexually titillating about this story at all.

I find it disgusting, sick, horrifying, and awful. Neither my husband nor I would find it funny or awesome if our son was drugged with alcohol and subsequently raped by a 36 year old woman.

[msanthrope]

80. That poor kid. nt

[Bigmack]

81. On an entirely different line of thought....

11 is pretty young for sperm generation.

The books say sperm generation starts about one year after puberty starts.

The range for puberty starts around 10, so it's pretty close.

I think a paternity test is in order.

The boy was raped, no question, but I wonder if he was the only one having sex with her.

The fact that he "came out" to his principal indicates that he was traumatized by the sex. It might be some small comfort to the boy to know he, at least, didn't father the child.

(Sorry to be OT... which apparently is: How Insensitive Some People Are, rather than Boy Raped.)

[duffyduff]

82. It's child sexual abuse. End of story. n/t

[Egalitarian Thug]

85. Someone whose opinion I do respect asked me to delete my post, so it's gone.

Just wanted to make sure there was no question of submission to the self-appointed hall monitors.

And this is still a non-story.

[Orrex]

88. In other words, rather than remaining silent

You opted to open your mouth again and remove all doubt.


Fair enough.

[Egalitarian Thug]

96. Oh my, a personal attack from a hall-monitor, how ever will I cope?

[Orrex]

97. Why don't you tell us more about how trivial you consider child rape to be?

[Egalitarian Thug]

98. I don't (despite your pejorative). I consider you trivial. n/t

[Orrex]

105. Well, everyone in this thread recognizes you to be a rape comedian

If I'm going to be considered trivial by someone, it might as well be by a rape comedian.

That's on par with being considered trivial by a coprophage or a garden variety sociopath.



And it's curious that you consider me trivial yet still take the time to reply.

[Egalitarian Thug]

111. Oh my, whatever shall I do? You have all been such a wonderfully tolerant and

supportive gang over the past year. Well I guess I shall simply have to carry on as best I can without your support and understanding into the future.

Have a wonderful day!

[Orrex]

117. You do indeed carry on.

Is that typical of rape comedians?

[Egalitarian Thug]

123. And yet, you seem to suffer from some sort of keyboard compulsion that just won't let you walk away.

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Do you imagine that if you just keep calling me names, and hurling accusations that somehow I will give in? Are you imagining that the power of Orrex will overcome the great evil and you will arise, bloodied but victorious having vanquished the scourge of moralists everywhere?

It's not going to happen. Ever. I will not abide bullies, and I'm certainly not going to be intimidated by the like of you.

I don't alert (although you're weak attempts to elicit an alertable response from me are completely transparent), and I don't use the refuge of ignore. So, feel free to keep flailing and uselessly thrashing about. I'll be back after a bit to see if you've managed to come up with anything entertaining.

Do you really wear a Moo-Moo and chain smoke Parliaments]?

#t=194s

I'm laughing at you right now.

[Orrex]

135. As a rape comedian, you have no credibility in judging others

You giggle about the rape of an 11 year old boy and dismiss his story as trivial titillation, and then you spout some bullshit about your fearlessness in the face of bullies? The fact that you're laughing at me means nothing except that you've missed the point entirely.

I don't care whether you alert on these posts or not, because I'm only posting in order to give you the opportunity to reveal yourself, lest anyone have any doubt about what a rape comedian looks like.


Please do continue.

[Egalitarian Thug]

141. If I'm the comedian, why is it that I'm the one laughing at you?

Or is it that you're all bent out of shape because you believed the stories the alpha-boys told you when you were going through puberty?

That's OK, hardly any of us were really getting what we wanted.

[Orrex]

147. I suppose you might be laughing at me because you're a simpleton

But I admit that that's just speculation.

However, you are indeed a rape comedian--who the hell knows what's rattling around in that kind of a skull?

[Tarheel_Dem]

131. +1,000,000,000. Thank You.

"If I'm going to be considered trivial by someone, it might as well be by a rape comedian."

"That's on par with being considered trivial by a coprophage or a garden variety sociopath."

[kiva]

89. Thanks the gods you're here to save us from non-stories like this...

if only you had the power to zap this non-story out of existence we'd all be much better human beings.

[Egalitarian Thug]

95. Thank whatever delusion you like. Your opinions shall remain insignificant. n/t

[demmiblue]

106. I'm sure they now respect you a little less.

[Egalitarian Thug]

112. I'm really impressed that you thought so much of me that you spent the time

creating this. Thank you very much.

[demmiblue]

115. YW... it took me approximately ten seconds, so no biggie.

[BainsBane]

109. rape is a non-story?

That's a fucking shitty thing to say.

[msanthrope]

113. You know, not commenting on the deletion would have preserved the

illusion that you were doing a good thing, for good reasons.

[Egalitarian Thug]

125. But that would have given the impression that I give a shit what you think,

and deprived me of laughing at the hypocrisy and false morality of the bully gang, and where's the fun in that?

[msanthrope]

126. Yes--on a thread about child rape, you laughing and having fun is entirely appropriate....

Jeebus.....I feel pity for you.

[Egalitarian Thug]

133. If you're not going to be any more creative than that the audience is going to lose interest.

The one guy is doing graphics, and Orrex got to the name-calling misquoting about 5 replies ago.

And ripping off Matt Groening... C'mon, you're not even trying.

[Initech]

91. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA????

[JI7]

101. was the woman charged with Rape ?

[Lady Freedom Returns]

130. According to NDJ World , who also covered the story...

NDJ World | Published: Jun 15 2013 Australia?World News
Suzy A

Under present New Zealand rape laws, women who have none-consensual sex can only be accused of sexual abuse and only men can be accused of rape.

- See more at: http://www.nodeju.com/9809/11-year-old-impregnates-36-year-old.html#sthash.MujkRDWW.dpuf

[KitSileya]

156. They really need to change that law.

It's not only rape, but pedophilia, and as such, doubly grievous. Hopefully, men and women in NZ will see the deficit of the law and work to change it based on this case. Age of consent is age of consent, regardless of gender, and this is nowhere near a 'Romeo&Juliet'-case of a 15 year old and a 17 year old (age of consent in NZ being 16, iirc.)

[Lady Freedom Returns]

157. This case seems to be sparking talks about changing it.

That's a start.

[KitSileya]

163. It is definitely a start.

I hope a case like this would get more men to join women in their fight for equal rights - patriarchy is, at times, just as harsh towards men as towards women, and this idea that boys are supposed to be happy that they get raped by older women is a very definite part of patriarchy. It's seen as an early blooding, as it were a manhood test in a hunter gatherer society, when in reality it is rape, and pedophilia, and child abuse, and needs to be harshly punished. These days an 11-year old might have entered puberty physically, but he is still very much a child, and our laws recognize that by refusing to let him drive, drink, vote, and sign contracts. It follows that he is then too young to have sex. Men need to challenge their own culture that says that this is positive - women are doing it with internalized misogyny and cultural expectations. there's no reason why men shouldn't do the same.

[HappyMe]

162. What a bullshit law.

This woman is a rapist and a pedophile. That kid didn't 'impregnate' her, he was raped.

I hope they change this law.

[duuser5822]

102. That woman deserves to be put away for a long, long time

What a sick pervert. I feel so sorry for that poor kid, he's probably so traumatized..

[mgcgulfcoast]

104. lets pray for all involved

a tragedy.

[AverageJoe90]

114. Sad, but it's not a new thing. n/t

[MerryBlooms]

122. Headline should have read-- Woman rapes 11 year old boy.

Send her away for a very long time.

[Quantess]

124. I think so!

This topic is fxxxing gross and is nothing to joke about.

11 years old is too young for sex, even with another 11 year old.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

127. More on the story...

AUCKLAND – An 11 year old New Zealand boy reportedly managed to make the 36 year old mother of his best friend pregnant.

NDJ World | Published: Jun 15 2013 Australia?World News
Suzy A

The news has startled New Zealand social workers who demand the country revises its existing rape laws.

Authorities are flabbergasted that the school the boy and his friend attend knew about the sexual contact between the boy and his friend’s mother but never did anything to intervene.

************

Under present New Zealand rape laws, women who have none-consensual sex can only be accused of sexual abuse and only men can be accused of rape.

- See more at: http://www.nodeju.com/9809/11-year-old-impregnates-36-year-old.html#sthash.MujkRDWW.dpuf

[mimi85]

129. The school knew and did nothing.

I think this is one of the more disgusting threads I've seen on DU. Some of the posts (who shall remain nameless) are truly despicable.

[Squinch]

132. I think we all know who you mean. I'm floored by the depths of creepiness that one sank to.

This thread is pretty disturbing. I just updated my ignore list.

[tblue]

138. I could throw up.

I teach 7 year olds. They are BABIES! What kinda crazy was this woman? And she had the nerve to cop to this?

[Egalitarian Thug]

142. Shh. You must never admit that here. The arbiters of morality have spoken and no

dissent, or jokes, are allowed.

[uppityperson]

145. Rape jokes are not funny except to rapists and their ilk. eom

[demmiblue]

146. If you think an eleven year old is fair game, you are pretty fucked up.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Is that your taste? Underage children?

Holy shite!!

[uppityperson]

149. Thank you jurors or MIRT.

[demmiblue]

153. Yep, but it seems others have the same proclivities.

Or are tolerant of such.

[Orrex]

154. Yes indeed.

[alp227]

152. "...woman gave the boy beer and then later took part in a sexual encounter with him. "

I deplore the way countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran punish women for the most trivial of matters like extramarital sex and have such primitive judicial punishment like LASHES.

But sometimes I feel that some people should be outsourced to such countries for prosecution.