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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Nadler walks back his claim of warrantless wiretapping
More information here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023028300
There's been some misinformation spread regarding this issue.
Surely the post above which is the actual truth will get well over 100 recs.
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dkf
(37,305 posts)Walked it back indeed.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)Yes, they do need a separate warrant.
Yes. the analyst can access the phone calls without first getting a warrant.
The FISA law allows 72 hours after the fact to seek the warrant.
So, the truth is, the analyst has access, on his own, if he is verbally authorized to do so by either the Attorney General or the Director of National Intelligence.
That is the law, AFAICT.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Do you believe that everyone involved in this mess is absolutely honest? Do you believe the more than 4 million TS clearance holders are never looking at the data unless specifically instructed to by someone with a warrant? Do you believe that the 1,000 + security contracting companies are not doing anything but sitting around twiddling their thumbs and playing minesweeper while waiting for a warrant to examine the data?
If that was the case, we wouldn't need Booz Allen and God alone knows how many others to contract on the data, we'd need four or five people on rotating shifts in one small office in Washington. You get a warrant, and you walk it down to Bob, who is the duty custodian. Bob examines the warrant, yawns and types his password, and the Prints out the relevant data, and logs it into the system. So why do we need so many people involved if they aren't doing anything with the data but holding onto it until instructed to examine it while under a warrant?
It's a lie, it's a patently, blatant, lie. So please don't insult my intelligence by pretending that there is nothing to this but hype. Because that is absolutely not the case, and anyone with a modicum of common sense should see that.
HooptieWagon
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Tx4obama
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Update Rep. Nadler in a statement to BuzzFeed says: “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant.”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/video-congressman-claims-he-was-told-government-could-listen
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UPDATE: Nadler walked back his comments in a statement to BuzzFeed on Sunday. “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant," he said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/15/nsa-phone-calls-warrant_n_3448299.html
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Cali_Democrat
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(55,981 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)But if that makes you feel more secure, go for it. Just dont try to tell me you want the truth.
Denial apparently sets you free.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)He hasn't said he misunderstood what was said in the private briefing, only that the White House has reiterated it's insistence that the public story is true, and that what he was told in the private briefing is not true.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Until he says he was wrong and didnt hear what he thought he heard I wont by the cover up.
Cali_Democrat
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Very neat trick you've engaged in--just refuse to believe anyone who says anything that you don't want to believe.
The very essence of conspiracy theory as faith--the lack of evidence or contradictory evidence are evidence of the conspiracy.
maxrandb
(15,295 posts)folks will only support and believe things that concur with their own beliefs.
Don't you know....government is evil, and all the folks serving in our military are just a bunch of babykilling, American-freedom hating jack-booted thugs, and there's NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN the parties, and the Black Helicopters are coming to shoot drones through your bedroom window, and the government is watching you in the shower, etc, etc, etc., as the King of Siam said.
Anything that supports their narrative must be the gospel truth, and anything that questions their narrative is just government evil.
How long before someone here claims that "the government must have gotten to Rep. Nadler to get him to change his story"???
My guess...not that long, if it hasn't happened already.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Got it.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)...got it
maxrandb
(15,295 posts)What do you think helped prevent nuclear war over the last 50 years?
How do you think we managed to defeat the Axis powers in WWII, or WWI?
I'm sorry if you're just waking up to the fact that our country has covert operations, and has had them for it's entire history. I guess we should have just told the Germans where we planned to land on D-Day. I guess we should have just told Osama Bin Laden that we had found his location. I guess we should have just waited until a couple dozen commercial aircraft had been blown to bits over the Atlantic before we worried about catching the folks who planned it. I guess we should have just waited until the NY Subway was blown-up before we tried to prevent it.
Yes, as a matter of fact...I do trust the United States. It's why I am an American.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)The libertarian tinfoilery has saturated this site.
The Ron Paul Revolution has found a new home in DU.
Congrats to the loyal patriots! 
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)We should be ok with all information on our phone calls being collected and stored by the government because some guy says we should trust a secret warrant program that has no public oversight to not overstep?
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)...don't use there lines.
1979 was when these rules were set in motion
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)....it seems the crys of wolf are loud and numerous
