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Keeping Us in the Dark and Under Watch
Public Enemy Number One: the Public
by KEVIN CARSON
CounterPunch JUNE 17, 2013
Its important, when listening to the official shapers of opinion in the media, to ask ourselves what they really mean by the words they use. As Orwell pointed out in Politics and the English Language, those in power use language to obscure meaning more often than to convey it.
A good example is the recurrence of phrases like endangered our national security and aided the enemy, from people like Eric Holder, Peter King and Lindsey Graham, in reference to leaks by people like Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden. Now, they certainly intend to evoke certain associations in the minds of listeners with their word choices. If youre not careful, you may find yourself responding in just the way the users intend allowing their words to conjure up in your mind homes, families, neighbors, churches, a whole way of life, threatened with invasion and destruction by a nameless, faceless enemy in the words of Orwells Two-Minute Hate, the dark armies barbarians whose only honour is atrocity.
But if you look behind the words, their actual meaning is something entirely different. To the kinds of people who throw around such words, national security is a corporate-state world order enforced by the United States, run by people like themselves, which enabling global corporations to extract resources and labor from the people of the world and live off unearned rents. The enemy is you. And the danger is that you might figure out whats going on and disturb their cozy little setup.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/17/public-enemy-number-one-the-public/
PS: When it comes to explaining power, Professor Carson is on the money.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Used to be, the public owned their own lives unless they broke laws and were served justice via the courts.
This new age is telling us that we no longer own our lives. That our lives have to be controlled and centered on what is best for the elites.
Information is power. The elites will use whatever info they can acquire in order to make slaves of us. They hate our freedoms.
Anyone playing in the elites' hand is a traitor to freedom. NSA is one of their hands.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)We the People used to be the government. Now it's a place where only the insiders' insiders can play.
As a result, we, as you astutely noted, RobertEarl, are their slaves.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And don't vote.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)CorpoMedia engages in misdirection and obfuscation. A lot of people think they are paying attention by just absorbing what is thrown at them.
To learn, you have to dig. There can be nothing passive about it.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)pounding the bricks on an empty stomach looking for work. That's part of the "plan".
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Carson referred to the great sociologist Alex Carey in the OP article. Mehr Licht:
Corporate McPravda owns the airwaves. And Corporate Tee Vee is still where most Americans get most of their information.
The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making
Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.
Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis
Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy as in true democracy places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society locally and globally.
From the late 19th century on, the threats to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.
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The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the public and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.
The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and experts armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape Americas democratic propaganda throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.
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http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making
Thankfully, to help spread light when the protectors of the First Amendment won't, Maria Galardin's TUC (Time of Useful Consciousness) Radio. The podcast helps explain how we got here and what we need to do to move forward, starting with putting the "Public" into Airwaves again:
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html
If you find a moment, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) on Carey.
http://tucradio.org/AlexCarey_ONE.mp3
It's important for there to be more than a handful of companies providing "news." Democracy depends on it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Like there's nothing we can do.
IMO it's gotten much better. The rich can't control the news the way Hearst could before the internet age. Some journalists you can tell want to influence people, not just report and let people decide. But now there are easier ways around what the M$M says.
In a place like DU we can bounce it off others and start thinking about it. In the old days one hears Walter Cronkite and that's it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)their policies. That hasn't happened, their policies are still with us, their stupid, Orwellian named 'laws. which should have been allowed to expire, their 'Patriot' Act, their 'Homeland' Security, their 'No Child Left Behind', an their Spy Programs. We voted to get rid of all that, why hasn't it, we were certainly promised 'transparency' and the restoring of the rule of law. How were we to know those promises would not be kept?
I believe we were very informed, but we are not responsible for what politicians AFTER they get themselves elected.
Do you support all the Republicans this President has restored to power by placing them in powerful positions in his cabinet? Are there no Democrats around to appoint? I didn't support Republicans, did you? So why is he installing them back into power when the people threw them out?
Stop blaming the people. They are NOT to blame. Not even one bit.
byeya
(2,842 posts)That pretty well sums up the attitude that the cops, national guard, armed forces, intelligence agencies are there to keep the proles in line for the 1% capitalists to exploit.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Things have descended so far that all they give two-cents about are shining up to the wealthy. In office, they use their official positions to protect the interests of the wealthy. Out of office, they use their official record to cash in their chits in a job.
Remember Carol Lam? She connected the rotting dots from the Military Industrial Complex straight though Congress and on down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Bush White House. Instead of following the trail, she got the ziggy from her government job as a US Attorney for Southern District of California. Thankfully, by some strange circumstance, she did find employment at a mill per.
As for Hoover, what a rotter:
* DICK GREGORY: In 1968, the activist/comedian publicly denounced the Mafia for importing heroin into the inner city. Did the FBI welcome the anti-drug, anti-mob message? No. Head G-man J. Edgar Hoover responded by proposing that the Bureau try to provoke the mob to retaliate against Gregory as part of an FBI "counter intelligence operation" to "neutralize" the comedian. Hoover wrote: "Alert La Cosa Nostra (LCN) to Gregory's attack on LCN."
Remarkable reSOURCE: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/FBIAbuse_WMOZ.html
The fact Hoover never heard of the Mafia was no coincidence.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Instead of operating for the Who's Who set, it sheds light on Who-Knows-Whom:
http://littlesis.org/
For example, Phil Zelikow:
http://littlesis.org/person/69227/Philip_Zelikow
Gosh. I didn't know the Dude was into the Aspen Institute, where liberals and conservatives alike get along in service of capital.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)By Jeff Cohen and Norman Solomon
CNN's recent retraction of its "Valley of Death" story might suggest that American journalism maintains high standards for military or intelligence-related reporting--and sets the record straight when those standards aren't met.
In July, CNN (and corporate sibling Time) retracted reports that U.S. special forces operating illegally in Laos in 1970 had used nerve gas as part of "Operation Tailwind," which targeted American defectors.
Based on months of research and interviews conducted primarily by CNN producer April Oliver, along with senior producer Jack Smith (with correspondent Peter Arnett used mainly for star power and "marketing purposes" , the reports contained on-air, on-the-record comments from several Tailwind participants to the effect that sarin nerve gas was used and that U.S. defectors were killed (CNN Newsstand, 6/7/98, 6/14/98; see also CNN Talkback Live, 6/8/98). But CNNs presentation of the evidence was marred by overreaching--with inadequate time given to Tailwind veterans and experts who disputed the conclusion that sarin had been used.
Producers Oliver and Smith have defended their work by pointing out that their report needed a full hour for a complete, nuanced presentation (CNN higher-ups refused, according to Oliver, saying the network was "not in the business of doing documentaries anymore" , that even their 18-minute report did include doubters and that it was top CNN executives in the final edit who deleted a comment by a Tailwind pilot that tear gas, not nerve gas, had been deployed.
Soon after the report aired, CNN management began retreating in the face of immense pressure--first from the military establishment, including Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell and former CIA chief Richard Helms, and then from a media establishment more inclined to rally around the military than to explore the U.S. governments secret war in Laos. With CNN producers muzzled by management for several weeks, the media "debate" overlooked evidence from journalists and Vietnam veterans that U.S. defectors were indeed targeted during the Vietnam War. Even the comment made by former Defense Secretary Melvin Laird (Associated Press, 6/9/98) that the U.S. had sent nerve gas to Vietnam in 1967 was quickly forgotten.
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We asked a number of Washington Post staffers whether the newspaper ever retracted its Tonkin Gulf reporting. "I can assure you that there was never any retraction," said Murrey Marder, a reporter who wrote much of the Post's coverage of the August 1964 Tonkin events.
Marder remembers noting that the U.S.-backed South Vietnamese navy had been shelling North Vietnamese coastal islands just prior to the reported "unprovoked" attacks by North Vietnam on U.S. ships in the Tonkin Gulf. But the Pentagons propaganda machinery was in high gear: "Before I could do anything as a reporter, the Washington Post had endorsed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution."
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http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/cnns-tailwind-and-selective-media-retractions/
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)It's because the ARE:
Correspondence and collusion between the New York Times and the CIA
Mark Mazzetti's emails with the CIA expose the degradation of journalism that has lost the imperative to be a check to power
Glenn Greenwald
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 August 2012 14.58 EDT
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But what is news in this disclosure are the newly released emails between Mark Mazzetti, the New York Times's national security and intelligence reporter, and CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf. The CIA had evidently heard that Maureen Dowd was planning to write a column on the CIA's role in pumping the film-makers with information about the Bin Laden raid in order to boost Obama's re-election chances, and was apparently worried about how Dowd's column would reflect on them. On 5 August 2011 (a Friday night), Harf wrote an email to Mazzetti with the subject line: "Any word??", suggesting, obviously, that she and Mazzetti had already discussed Dowd's impending column and she was expecting an update from the NYT reporter.
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Even more amazing is the reaction of the newspaper's managing editor, Dean Baquet, to these revelations, as reported by Politico's Dylan Byers:
"New York Times Managing Editor Dean Baquet called POLITICO to explain the situation, but provided little clarity, saying he could not go into detail on the issue because it was an intelligence matter.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/correspondence-collusion-new-york-times-cia
These really are cursed interesting times. One really has to read foreign papers to get what should be in American newspapers, stuff like whatever happened to that scrap of paper thing, the Constitution?
markiv
(1,489 posts)Indian media covers the issue in specific, play by play, nuts and bolts no holds barred form. It's really not that hard, you only have to desire to tell the truth about it
US media on H-1b, is pure sh-t propaganda, across then entire political spectrum from NPR to CNN to Fox news. They are all bought and paid for by the tech giants and they all suck equally
TakeALeftTurn
(316 posts)k&r
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Appearing on CNN with Howard Kurtz, Greenwald responded to criticism by Congressman Mike Rogers that he didnt know what he was talking about.
First of all, to the extent that politicians like Republican Mike Rigers are running around boating that only they know, but not the rest of us know, about what the U.S. government is doing in terms of spying on its own citizens, that to me is exactly the reason why transparency is so vital here, he said. We shouldnt have a massive spying aparatus being constructed completely beyond democratic accountability and beyond the knowledge of the citizens on whom it is spying Thats exactly why, as a journalist, I think its so vital to shine light on what it is that the government is doing.
Greenwald also responded to Rogers other claim: that hed done real damage to U.S. national security by helping reveal the widespread nature of the NSAs spying dragnet.
Every terrorist on the planet already knows, and has known for a long time, that the United States is trying to surveil their communications, eavesdrop on their telephone calls, read their emails. Any terrorist who isnt already aware of that is a terrorist incapable of tying their shoes, let alone detonating a bomb successfully in the United States. That isnt anything about what we disclosed.
What we disclosed is that the American government is surveilling its own citizens, people who are suspected of no wrongdoing, he went on. The only thing that has been damaged here is not national security. What has been damaged is the reputation and credibility of the political officials who want to hide behind top secret designations to conceal their own wrongdoing, and thats really what theyre angry about.
SOURCE: http://www.alan.com/2013/06/09/glenn-greenwald-explains-why-hiding-behind-national-security-is-bunk-and-why-we-need-transparency/
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Why ideas matter:
Courage Is Contagious
The Conscience of Edward Snowden
by NOZOMI HAYASE
CounterPunch JUNE 18, 2013
EXCERPT...
This exposure of NSA abuse of power would not have been possible without the integrity and bravery of one woman. Award-winning documentary filmmaker, Laura Poitras was the first media contact on the story. She was behind the camera for Snowdens interview at hotel in Hong Kong. When asked by a Salon reporter about whether she was concerned about becoming a target of government investigation, Poitras said:
Its not OK that we have a secret court that has secret interpretations of secret laws; what kind of democracy is that? I felt like, this is a fight worth having. If theres fallout, if theres blow back, I would absolutely do it again, because I think this information should be public. Whatever part I had in helping to do that I think is a service. People take risks. And Im not the one whos taking the most in this case.
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John Kiriakou became the first CIA officer to confirm the use of torture and to face jail time for any reason relating to the U.S. torture program. Before going to jail, he spoke of his decision:
I took my oath seriously. My oath was to the Constitution. On my first day in the CIA, I put my right hand up, and I swore to uphold the Constitution. And to me, torture is unconstitutional, and its something that we should not be in the business of doing If you see waste, fraud, abuse or illegality, shout it from the rooftops, whether its internally or to Congress.
Jeremy Hammond is another young man sitting behind bars for more than a year for revealing that this insidious network of corporate and government surveillance has been used on activists. When he recently plead guilty to one count of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) for his role in Stratfor hack, he made a statement: I did this because I believe people have a right to know what governments and corporations are doing behind closed doors. I did what I believe is right.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/18/the-conscience-of-edward-snowden/
What makes democracy work is Truth.
MinM
(2,650 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)A socialist perspective the problem:
What Edward Snowden has revealed
By Joseph Kishore, 11 June 2013
11 June 2013, World Socialist Web Site
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Snowdens actions are courageous and principled, but historical experience has demonstrated that the defense of democracy is not possible simply through individual actions. It requires a social movement of the working class, based on an understanding that the crisis of democracy is rooted in the class structure of American and world capitalism.
On the one side stands the financial aristocracy, which, in its social instincts and political outlook, is authoritarian. It looks on the population as a whole as a hostile force, and every citizen as a potential enemy. And with good reason. The corporate and financial elite is well aware that the policies it is pursuing are deeply unpopular.
The aim is to intimidate and blackmail an entire society. As Snowden noted, after the state has gathered, on a permanent basis, data from everyone, You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call. And then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision youve ever made, every friend youve ever discussed something with.
Such methods will be employed against any and all political opposition. With the information it has already assembled, the government can readily construct a detailed social and political profile of nearly every individual in the United States.
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The financial aristocracy controls the entire political establishmentfrom the Obama administration and both political parties, to Congress and the courts. In defending the spying programsalong with other antidemocratic measures, including the claimed right to assassinate US citizens without due processObama has repeatedly insisted that he is not alone, that Congress has been informed. And this is true.
For its part, the corporate-controlled media functions as an auxiliary arm of the state. It is left to individuals like Snowden to do what they can to reveal government criminality because the mass media not only refuses to do so, but actively seeks to prevent information from getting to the American people.
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A government of lies and secrecy is necessary precisely because the social interests that the state represents are in irreconcilable conflict with those of the vast majority of the population. Such a social system is not compatible with democratic forms of rule.
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http://wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/11/pers-j11.html
You might enjoy the WSWS perspective on Detroit and the EMF, marmar. Money trumps justice, too.
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)From your link:
"Well give you a suburban home, a TV, a new car every five years, and a secure union job with benefits and periodic pay raises. In return, youll show up for work in between contract renewal times and let us manage the factories as we see fit without bothering your pretty little heads about it. And youll let us manage the world in the interests of GE, GM and United Fruit Company, and look the other way when we install genocidal fascist regimes or fund death squads in Indonesia, Nigeria and Latin America."
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)NYT Op-Ed by the author of The Watchers: The Rise of Americas Surveillance State.
Giving In to the Surveillance State
By SHANE HARRIS
The New York Times/Op-Ed August 22, 2012
IN March 2002, John M. Poindexter, a former national security adviser to President Ronald Reagan, sat down with Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the director of the National Security Agency. Mr. Poindexter sketched out a new Pentagon program called Total Information Awareness, that proposed to scan the worlds electronic information including phone calls, e-mails and financial and travel records looking for transactions associated with terrorist plots. The N.S.A., the governments chief eavesdropper, routinely collected and analyzed such signals, so Mr. Poindexter thought the agency was an obvious place to test his ideas.
He never had much of a chance. When T.I.A.s existence became public, it was denounced as the height of post-9/11 excess and ridiculed for its creepy name. Mr. Poindexters notorious role in the Iran-contra affair became a central focus of the debate. He resigned from government, and T.I.A. was dismantled in 2003.
But what Mr. Poindexter didnt know was that the N.S.A. was already pursuing its own version of the program, and on a scale that he had only imagined. A decade later, the legacy of T.I.A. is quietly thriving at the N.S.A. It is more pervasive than most people think, and it operates with little accountability or restraint.
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Today, this global surveillance system continues to grow. It now collects so much digital detritus e-mails, calls, text messages, cellphone location data and a catalog of computer viruses that the N.S.A. is building a 1-million-square-foot facility in the Utah desert to store and process it.
Whats missing, however, is a reliable way of keeping track of who sees what, and who watches whom. After T.I.A. was officially shut down in 2003, the N.S.A. adopted many of Mr. Poindexters ideas except for two: an application that would anonymize data, so that information could be linked to a person only through a court order; and a set of audit logs, which would keep track of whether innocent Americans communications were getting caught in a digital net.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/whos-watching-the-nsa-watchers.html?_r=0
What's really changed, CanSocDem:
50 years ago: Medgar Evers assassinated
On June 12, 1963, civil rights leader Medgar Evers was shot from behind in the driveway of his home in Jackson, Mississippi. A veteran of World War II, Evers was the Mississippi field officer for the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People). He was born in Decatur, Mississippi, the son of James Evers, a sawmill worker, and Jessie Wright, a domestic. Evers left behind his wife Myrlie and three young children. He was 37.
The assassin was Byron De La Beckwith, a fertilizer salesman and member of the racist White Citizens Council. Beckwith, who later joined the Ku Klux Klan, was not convicted of the crime in two separate cases with all-white juries. He was ultimately convicted in 1994 in a case launched based on evidence gathered subsequentlylargely that he himself had boasted of the murder to acquaintances for years.
Two major events in the civil rights movement had occurred a day earlier, on June 11, 1963. In the morning Alabama Governor George C. Wallace carried out his promise to defy a federal court order and personally block two African American students from attending the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. With news cameras rolling, Wallace dismissed an appeal by Assistant US Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach. He eventually left the building under threat of arrest by Alabama National Guard General Henry Graham, whose forces had been placed under the control of US Defense Secretary Robert McNamara.
In response to the events in Alabama, later in the day US President John Kennedy gave a speech that, for the first time since the administration of Abraham Lincoln a century earlier, indicated active presidential support for equal rights. Kennedy warned of rising social tensions creating a rising tide of discontent that threatens the public safety, and expressed concerns that racial oppression was undercutting US pretensions as the guardian of democracy abroad.
We preach freedom around the world, and we mean it, and we cherish our freedom here at home, but are we to say to the world, and much more importantly, to each other that this is a land of the free except for the Negroes; that we have no second-class citizens except Negroes; that we have no class or cast system, no ghettoes, no master race except with respect to Negroes? Kennedy asked.
Next week I shall ask the Congress of the United States to act, to make a commitment it has not fully made in this century to the proposition that race has no place in American life or law, Kennedy concluded.
SOURCE: http://wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/10/twih-j10.html
Today's political leadership has a lot of catching up to do, especially in regards to integrity, hypocrisy and justice.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Dispensation and its ideologies
MinM
(2,650 posts)Former DUer JohnOneillsMemory had this quote in a post 9 years ago...
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." Frank Zappa 1977
...The average American is uninformed, uninvolved, and well-conditioned to support wars abroad, and enthusiastically welcome their own oppression. They applaud the security forces that commit atrocities, asking no questions but begging these same forces to be make them safe. ...
A majority of Americans approve of being under surveillance, monitored and tracked, their privacy willingly surrendered.Big Brother now openly and proudly promotes a police state. Washingtons leaders bray about the greatness of militant fascism, and win votes for it.
A majority of Americans, their brains addled with us-versus-them science fiction/monster movies and pro-CIA entertainment propaganda, still cling to the fantasy that they are the good guys, who are endlessly under attack. ...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/911-and-the-military-intelligence-security-machine-towards-a-permanent-state-of-emergency-in-america/5339495
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=508464#p508464
Octafish
(55,745 posts)[font color="blue"]Nguyen Hand Bank, the P-2 lodge and Banco Ambrosiano, BCCI, the S&L "failures" and more: the thread through all the scandals is the hand-in-glove financial relationship of Intelligence Agencies, organized crime and terrorist proxies. As one financial corruption is exposed, another begins, and the players remain the same, as do the crimes: money-laundering, drug-smuggling, assassination and staged terrorist acts. [/font color]
More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2118878
DUers were unafraid to get their fingernails dirty, lifting up that rock -- 2004, before the Great Bankster Bailout of '08. Nostalgia.