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Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:28 PM Jun 2013

Female lawmaker in WI seems to think abortion is a fun trend & it's ok to traumatize rape victims.

Wisconsin State Senator Mary Lazich sponsored abortion bill that requires ultrasounds and doctors to describe characteristics of the fetus even if the woman declines it. How do idiots like this get elected??

"These abortions became popular in the '60s. It was almost the thing to do. You needed to get one of them to be a woman.


http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/06/12148/mandatory-ultrasound-bill-moves-conception-passage-just-ten-days

This bill will require victims of rape to get a transvaginal ultrasound since it will probably be too early in the pregnancy to see anything using a regular one. Do you know what a transvaginal ultrasound is? If not, Check out the link and ask yourself if a rape victim should be subjected to that. And furthermore, should ANY women be subjected to an invasive, embarrassing and unnecessary procedure?

http://blog.timesunion.com/mdtobe/2128/2128/
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Female lawmaker in WI seems to think abortion is a fun trend & it's ok to traumatize rape victims. (Original Post) Just Saying Jun 2013 OP
I've had one JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #1
I've had one also. Just Saying Jun 2013 #7
A side effect of their medical ignorance is that it will come to be associated with abortion Hekate Jun 2013 #9
Sure, they were still illegal in the '60s. So one risked both dying and sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #2
Yeah to be a 'woman' ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #5
I had to read that quote a couple times. Just Saying Jun 2013 #8
A woman's worst enemy is always another woman! atreides1 Jun 2013 #3
No. Just no. Tansy_Gold Jun 2013 #4
+1000 ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #6
I have had an abortion and if she thinks it is an easy decision then she has not talked with any of jwirr Jun 2013 #10
Sadly, some of her fellow reps told their own abortion stories Just Saying Jun 2013 #11
Ah, the report to the police thing is the old was it really rape issue. For them the woman is jwirr Jun 2013 #12

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
1. I've had one
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jun 2013

Here's my idea - every female lawmaker who wants this - has to submit.

Every male who wants this - has to have it up his ass.


THEN -they can be the controlling little monsters they so desire to be.



You know who is most likely to need a transvag? A woman trying to coceive. They can see an ectopic at the end of a tube in some cases. They are a beautiful REPRODUCTIVE tool. They in some cases SAVE LIVES.

The fact that these rat bastards are making them into a bad thing is enough for me to demand they have one. Oh and I also want that woman to go through an HSG. Since she knows so god damned much - but obvious not as much (first hand) as me.


Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
7. I've had one also.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

My second pregnancy my OB wanted to check for twins which run in my family. It didn't hurt that I recall but was uncomfortable and embarrassing, which I believe is their goal.

I brought it up because I wondered how many people knew what this requirement really involved. Not to mention the additional cost.

Hey I think we should start requiring anal probes in order to dispense Viagra. Give them a real taste of their own medicine!

Hekate

(90,617 posts)
9. A side effect of their medical ignorance is that it will come to be associated with abortion
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jun 2013

Just great. Scene from the near future: Two women speaking confidentially. Sue: When I went to my gyn I had to have a transvaginal ultrasound because ... Jane, shocked, judgmental: Are you getting an abortion?! Sue, taken aback at her friend's reaction: Noooo. My gyn was checking to see if she could find a reason why it's taking me over a year to get pregnant.

I'm with you JustAnotherGen: all the idiots in political office who want to impose this intrusive procedure on women seeking an abortion should be required to submit to it themselves, pretty much as you described.

I had one at perimenopause and it was just another in-office procedure, and with a good female tech on hand, even rather funny. She said: "Look, there's a ripened egg follicle," and since I was 53 at the time I LOLd. Mother Nature will have Her little jokes.

But if I had been raped, it would have been another violation of my body. If I had made up my mind that I needed an abortion, it would have been a violation of my personal autonomy and my body both. It's not a joke.

ismnotwasm

(41,973 posts)
5. Yeah to be a 'woman'
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jun 2013

You had to find an illegal abortionist or a pencil or a coat hanger. What a disgusting woman.

atreides1

(16,068 posts)
3. A woman's worst enemy is always another woman!
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jun 2013

Misogyny isn't only for men these days, it appears that many female followers of Jebus the non-existent, love to use their belief in a bible passage that only exists in their delusional minds as a reason to take away rights from other women. These types have a name, collaborator...and if there is justice perhaps what has happened to collaborators throughout history will one day happen to women like this...and perhaps they can call on Jebus to lead them to a better place, like South Jersey...



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. I have had an abortion and if she thinks it is an easy decision then she has not talked with any of
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jun 2013

us.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
11. Sadly, some of her fellow reps told their own abortion stories
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jun 2013

And it made no difference. From the link:



Wendi Kent showing opposition to SB 206
Rep. Sandy Pope told a tearful story of having to make the decision to terminate an unsuccessful pregnancy, and ended, her voice shaking, by looking across the aisle and saying "some decisions do not belong to you. You can't have them. You just can't. You can't hurt people this way... what you're doing is cruel, absolutely cruel."

Rep. Chris Taylor and Rep. Dianne Hesselbein both shared stories about the painful experience of being pregnant with twins, only to find out that one of the twins was not going to survive, and having to repeatedly view ultrasounds with images of their healthy unborn child along with the child that would not survive.


Oh and cases of abortion can be exempted from the ultrasound if they report to the police. More righting style empathy!


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Ah, the report to the police thing is the old was it really rape issue. For them the woman is
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jun 2013

considered quilty until proven innocent.

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