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How do you make abortion funny? That was a key question mulled at a major conservative gathering Friday on how to make social conservatism appealing to young people, after an election where Republicans got trounced in the battle for millennial voters (who are are moving even further and further away from the Christian-right on marriage and other issues).
Abortion has to be made funny, the thinking goes, because funny sells on social media, and thats where one goes to court young people. You can engage with sarcasm, its hard with the abortion issue, but you have to, said Students for Life president Kristan Hawkins at a breakout panel at the Faith and Freedom Coalition Conference in Washington today on how to win millennial voters. Unfortunately we have to, because this is the generation that weve been dealt.
As the Republican Party tries to remake itself after the 2012 election to better appeal to young people and minorities, theres been a movement to jettison issues social conservatives hold dear, especially support for traditional marriage. But the activists at Ralph Reeds confab said absolutely not. Youve got to be pro-life, youve got be pro-marriage, or else youre not going to get our money, Hawkins said firmly.
How, then, do you win over young voters when as many as 70 percent support marriage equality? The answers offered feel a bit like jamming a square peg in a round hole.
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http://www.salon.com/2013/06/17/gop_plan_to_appeal_to_millennials_make_abortion_funny/
Yeah, let them try that on Twitter or other social media. They will be crushed.
Abortion isn't funny in any way shape or form. There are some things you don't mock. Are mass shootings next?
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)He already makes fun of homelessness, so he might as well get some giggles out of unwanted pregnancies. Maybe throw in a few jokes about gay teen suicide while he's at it. That's the trouble with liberals, we just don't see the humor in misery and desperation.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Have you ever heard rightwingers trying to be funny? They have 5 jokes:
1) Minorities are stupid.
2) Liberals are stupid.
3) Women who don't want to be barefoot, pregnant and chained to the kitchen sink are sluts and/or lesbians.
4) LGBT people are unnatural and disgusting.
5) I'm going to shoot someone in categories 1-4.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)That's not going to work at all.
jmowreader
(50,554 posts)The GOP has become the GAAGA party: Guns, Anti-Obamacare, Abortion, Gays and the Altar. I apologize to the great liberal singer, but those, and a couple other items like immigration and taxes, are all they care about. I think you could write a bill that deported all the gays, throw a massive tax increase into it, and get massive GOP support.
Since the GOP is so focused, we need a similar focus: a plan that will fix the infrastructure, create 10 million living wage jobs, keep tuition affordable, and reduce unwanted pregnancy by 50 percent in two years, reduced to almost nothing by 2020, by making birth control easy and cheap to get.
Your choices are (1) a Bible in every home or (2) a paycheck in every hand and a rubber on every dick.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Short, simple, to the point.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)At a deep, fundamental level.
It is like there is something about being a decent human being they are incapable of understanding.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)The new Pope said something about it.
"He asserts that Capitalism harbors a spiritual perversion that seeks to tame transcendence, seeking to co-opt religion for its own ends."
That is what has happened here in America. Capitalism has co-opted and tamed religion.
Combine that with problems of rigid religiosity or fundamentalism and you have the near perfect destruction of religion.
"At another stage, Francis warns of the dangers of rigid religiosity and fundamentalism.
This type of rigid religiosity is disguised with doctrines that claim to give justifications, but in reality deprive people of their freedom and do not allow them to grow as persons, he says. A large number end up living a double life."
http://ncronline.org/blogs/all-things-catholic/book-indicates-pope-moderate-realist
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Snakes in suits.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Brain damage. Something.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I highly doubt the "Consortium of Fundamentalist Anti-Choice Chucklefucks" is going to be able to afford that writing team.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)... nope, there's no joke there. not funny.
The Republican Party is obviously not trying to "remake itself". Its leadership is just trying to put different spin on the same old Christian Coalition social oppression.
WovenGems
(776 posts)The republicans are simple changing the lipstick color on the pig.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)do not care about the unborn baby & more about using the unborn baby as a political weapon! SICK!!
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)That forcing women, many who live at or below the poverty line, to give birth against their will creates Repug voters in the future...they are not just short-sighted, they are cruel and stupid.
But then, we already know this.
asjr
(10,479 posts)Democrats vs Republicans and that is this--Allies vs Axis.
Kablooie
(18,625 posts)But their gerrymandered districts will keep them in power for the next decade anyway.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)when the racial demographics and the young voters and the new census come together....
ashling
(25,771 posts)That's gonna sell well.
Initech
(100,063 posts)I've said it before and I'll say it again: Republicans have zero sense of humor. Where we joke about their flaws, when they try to do the same, it always backfires on them big time.
Boomerproud
(7,951 posts)Some honesty for once.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)Bully humor. Winners laugh at losers. That's why Rush can make fun of homeless people. "Why did the chicken cross the road?" "Because I kicked him across! Bwahahaha."
What really fries them now is that they and their policies have become jokes. They can't stand anyone laughing at them.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)K&R
... it will backfire on them faster than spitting straight ahead on a motorcycle going 70 mph on the Interstate. They would be reviled not only here in America, but the world over. IMHO.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Some things are just not funny, no matter who does it. I would not be shocked if they try to pay some stand up comedian to make it funny. Epic fail.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)They're pretty much going to be stuck with having Gallagher hit a plastic fetus with a hammer or Dennis Miller whining about how abortion oppresses white guys.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)Just about all conservative "humor" is only funny if you're already heavily inFOXicated. Outside that it sounds like the braying of an ass.
And anyone who could be funny to a more general audience will be too "liberal" for the same people who showed up for Reed's confab.
But they'll try. It'll be round-the-clock "Half Hour Comedy Hour" for a while. Brace yourselves!
niyad
(113,259 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)See? It's so easy to make abortion funny.
bloomington-lib
(946 posts)need a big tent, but we keep losing.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)"moderates"
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)They are grossly out of touch
reformist2
(9,841 posts)RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)...or maybe something else (Jeebus?), but these people's brains are seriously broken.
I've been calling them The Upside-Down People for a few years now.
Everything they say and do and believe is upside-down to reality.
But it's just NOT funny anymore.
But, there is hope.
These kids today, "this... generation that weve been dealt," is actually extremely cool.
I'm 50 and I know a hell of a lot of 25 year-olds, and for the most part, they are terrific.
I think that as long as they stay away from the high-fructose corn syrup and the fundie whack-a-doodles, we'll be OK in the long run...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Conservatives can make a joke out of anything! Just not a funny joke.
I remember fondly all those hysterical conservative comedians!
Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Are they going to change their principles just to win?
Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)walk into a bar.....
As usual, they've got it wrong.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)it has the potential of actually turning out to be funny.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I think I'm dumber having read that.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)"Travis Korson, the grass-roots director of the Virginia chapter, suggested framing marriage as an economic issue. 'Gay marriage undermines that basic family unit,' he said, and that, in turn, hurts the economy."
What a load of BS.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)"It's not that we don't want people to be married with children, it's that we want the RIGHT people to be married with children."
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)And I'm anti-abortion/prolife.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)I don't really think which side of the women's-rights/pro-life question a person is on not one mature person thinks abortion is a funny thing or can in any way be made a funny thing. It is not a funny thing when the family dog spontaneously aborts a half-developed litter of puppies on the bathroom floor and it equally not funny when a woman is pushed by whatever circumstance into having to seek out and have performed an abortion. Anyone who think they can find away to make it funny is perverted and anyone who finds it funny has about them a grotesque immaturity. That is my opinion, one strongly held I might add.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Doc Holliday
(719 posts)....and he was a guy who could make anything funny. (Well, nearly anything.)
In his book "Last Words" he touched briefly on a failed attempt to do this very thing-- work up a riff on abortion. He saw almost immediately that it wasn't going to work when he opened up with the comment, "Abortion is not murder-- but it is justifiable homicide."
The crowd reaction was, shall we say, underwhelming. He never tried it again.
If Carlin couldn't do it, no one else should even try.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Where he said you could joke about anything, but it's all in how the joke is constructed:
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)PJ Rourke and Dennis Miller just bitch and throw in some usually shocking off the wall jokes that just aren't funny.
The reason the Right is so easy to lampoon is because all you have to do is tell the truth about conservatism, add a bit of snark and shake it all up and you get hilarity.
Conservatives are also against thing a lot of people like while liberal comedians attack people in power.
Here's an example of the start of a liberal comedian; two congressmen.... See, you know that is going to be funny because you are attacking power regardless of the party.
Here's an example of the first line of a conservative joke, two well-fare cheats...
See what I mean.
I bet a lot of comedians who are painted as liberal are probably non-partisan.
And even when conservative are not in power, they still represent the things people hate like big business and rich people.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)"Did your gun misfire with all the MegaGent Capsules?
Don't be a liberal. Just trust in our
Christian political leaders. No go home and say three
Holy Mark Foley's and everything will be fine."
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)And homophobia funny, maybe showing Sheppard's body strung up on that fence in Wyoming. The possibilities are endless. Let them get started.
quakerboy
(13,919 posts)The country will be the winner.
I think many social conservatives agree with the rest of the country on the moral bankruptcy of the corporate system and the need for financial reform.
And I think many corporatists dont give a rats ass about whether gay people can get married, or whether women can get abortions.
But somehow they got welded together into one line toting monstrosity of a party, which in our current system always gets just enough power to prevent majority opinion from prevailing.
Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)I am sure these would win the hearts and minds of there target audience.
WARNING THIS IS A VERY SICK AND DISTURBING SITE! I AM NOT KIDDING.
What do you get when you have sex with a pregnant woman?
A baby with a black eye!
This one was tame....
http://dead-baby-joke.com/
Rex
(65,616 posts)DON'T THINK ABOUT IT...just go out and do that please please please!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)thanks for the laugh GOP.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . this twenty week abortion limit the Repubs in the House just passed is one of the worst punchlines ever.
obama2terms
(563 posts)I don't think either side finds abortion funny at all!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Good luck untangling that knot, ya fucking goobers.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)The awesome thing about my plan is it involves absolutely no work at all. They do it all themselves.