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alp227

(32,015 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:46 PM Jun 2013

Glenn Beck Is Luring Christians Into Islamo-Mormon Deistic Universalism

Wow. Right Wing Watch caught this interview on the Rick Wiles show with the phony terrrorist Walid Shoebat and his equally nutty son Theodore Shoebat where Walid says about Glenn Beck: "Glenn Beck isn't really calling for Christianity. He lies when he says 'I'm a Christian, I believe in salvation through Jesus Christ' because he, number one, denies the Trinity; number two, he's a deist. In other words, he believes Muslims and Mormons and all the cults together, Buddhists, believe in God and everybody should conform to this deistic view in belief in God. Why? Because we have a more important thing to deal with and that is the salvation of the country as a nation." Wow, what a game of "Who's More Kooky?"

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Glenn Beck Is Luring Christians Into Islamo-Mormon Deistic Universalism (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2013 OP
Is that show being broadcast from the set of "The King of Hearts"? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #1
don't know if I understand what you are saying rurallib Jun 2013 #2
Hard to say... truebluegreen Jun 2013 #3
they are Shoebat crazy! Enrique Jun 2013 #4
Okay, so who's gonna be first to enter 'Shoebatshit crazy' in the urban dictionary? pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #14
Well... Scootaloo Jun 2013 #5
Interesting Andy823 Jun 2013 #6
well i must say that is interesting... madrchsod Jun 2013 #7
I think the Mormon version of Masonry comes from the Middle East siligut Jun 2013 #8
No, the Mormon version of Masonry did not come from the Middle East notadmblnd Jun 2013 #11
It seems Masonry comes from different sources siligut Jun 2013 #12
It's all tied together notadmblnd Jun 2013 #13
I bet Glenn Beck can't even SAY louis-t Jun 2013 #9
"Shoe-bat shoe-bat" louis-t Jun 2013 #10
If you were to look up "batshit" in the dictionary you'd see Glenn Beck's picture. Initech Jun 2013 #15

rurallib

(62,405 posts)
2. don't know if I understand what you are saying
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jun 2013

but if it means that Beck and the Muslims are headed for holy war, I say, clear out Wyoming and let them go at it.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
3. Hard to say...
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:51 PM
Jun 2013

clicked on this because I couldn't understand the title (given that Glenn Beck is involved that's not too surprising).

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
14. Okay, so who's gonna be first to enter 'Shoebatshit crazy' in the urban dictionary?
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:59 PM
Jun 2013

Sometimes a new term practically coins itself.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
6. Interesting
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jun 2013

I always thought Beck was luring people into his own unique brand of crazy over the top wacko religious beliefs which in reality have nothing to do with any kind of reality at all, let along any other religious doctrines!

Hell Beck belongs in the loony bin, and what is really ironic is the fact that "any" person who claims to be a christian can actually listen to and follow this nut job! Most of his followers would never in their life let a "Mormon" into their house to preach to them, yet they listen to Beck, who I believe has claimed to be a Mormon, spew his own version of religious radical BS, which usually makes no sense at all, and these so called christians eat his BS up on a daily basis!

Of course it's always fun to see the crazies go after each other, kind of like the tea party nuts and the republican nuts!

siligut

(12,272 posts)
8. I think the Mormon version of Masonry comes from the Middle East
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jun 2013

And Mormons believe they will become gods, that is what makes them theists. Of course in the Judeo-Christian view, this belief actually makes them Satanists.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
11. No, the Mormon version of Masonry did not come from the Middle East
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:52 PM
Jun 2013

Masonry developed in the Middle Ages. It has to do with the Temple in Jerusalem, Knights, The King of France, the Pope and the Crusades. The Mormons have borrowed heavily from the Masons for many of their rituals in their temples. But you are right, they do believe that they will inherit a planet when they die and become god of that planet. Their primary task is to then populate it.


The thing that bothers me about the Mormons, is that- if they Call themselves Christians and believe in only one God as Christian do- how can they believe that they themselves can become a god?

siligut

(12,272 posts)
12. It seems Masonry comes from different sources
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jun 2013

A Shriner I spoke with said his Masonry came from the Middle East as well. The Mormons also speak of Hiram Abiff:

The tale of Hiram Abiff as passed down in Masonic Lodges underpins the third degree. It starts with his arrival in Jerusalem, and his appointment by Solomon as chief architect and master of works at the construction of his temple. As the temple is nearing completion, three fellowcraft masons from the workforce ambush him as he leaves the building, demanding the secrets of a master mason. Hiram is challenged by each in turn, and at each refusal to divulge the information his assailant strikes him with a mason's tool (differing between jurisdictions). He is injured by the first two assailants, and struck dead by the last.[8] His murderers hide his body under a pile of rubble, returning at night to move the body outside the city, where they bury it in a shallow grave marked with a sprig of acacia. As the Master is missed the next day, Solomon sends out a group of fellowcraft masons to search for him. The loose acacia is accidentally discovered, and the body exhumed to be given a decent burial. The hiding place of the "three ruffians" is also discovered, and they are brought to justice. Solomon informs his workforce that the secrets of a master mason are now lost. He replaces them with substitutes (based on gestures given and words spoken upon the discovery of Hiram's body).[9] Such is the general legend as related in the Anglo-American jurisdictions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Abiff


I think Mormons say that Adam was also Jesus and that is how they say they Are Christians. Something like Jesus is the god of this world. Damned if I know, but mostly they say they Are Christians to get more members and mainstream.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
13. It's all tied together
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jun 2013

As I said it came about during the middle ages and during the time of the Crusades.

Crusades were religiously motivated campaigns conducted between the 11th and 16th centuries predominantly but not exclusively against Muslims in the Near East but also against pagans, heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

The Knights of The Temple or Knights Templar were a wealthy order of monks/priests that the King of France and the pope conspired together to take their wealth. The Catholic Church charged the Temple Knights with heresy and they became one of those persecuted. There is evidence that those that escaped developed Free Masonry to assist others. Hence the reason or secret hand shakes and secret signs that they use to recognize each other. The only requirement to become a member of the order was a belief in one God. So yes, there are Masons in the Middle East

Here's what Wikipedia has to say: Knights Templar

This article is about the medieval military order. For the Knights Templar associated with Freemasonry, see Knights Templar (Freemasonry). For other uses, see Knights Templar (disambiguation) and Templar (disambiguation).
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Knights Templar
Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon
Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Salomonici
Seal of Templars.jpg
A Seal of the Knights Templar[1]
Active c. 1119–1312
Allegiance The Pope
Type Western Christian military order
Role Protection of Christian Pilgrims
Size 15,000–20,000 members at peak, 10% of whom were knights[2][3]
Headquarters Temple Mount, Jerusalem
Nickname Order of the Temple
Patron St. Bernard of Clairvaux
Motto Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam (Not to us Lord, not to us, but to Your Name give the glory)
Attire White mantle with a red cross
Mascot 2 Knights riding a single horse
Engagements The Crusades, including:
Siege of Ascalon (1153),
Battle of Montgisard (1177)
Battle of Marj Ayyun (1179)
Battle of Hattin (1187),
Siege of Acre (1190–1191),
Battle of Arsuf (1191),
Siege of Al-Dāmūs (1210)
Battle of Legnica (1241),
Siege of Acre (1291)
Reconquista
Commanders
First Grand Master Hugues de Payens
Last Grand Master Jacques de Molay

The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Latin: Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Salomonici), commonly known as the Knights Templar, the Order of the Temple (French: Ordre du Temple or Templiers) or simply as Templars, were among the most wealthy and powerful of the Western Christian military orders.[4] The organization existed for nearly two centuries during the Middle Ages.

Officially endorsed by the Catholic Church around 1129, the Order became a favoured charity throughout Christendom and grew rapidly in membership and power. Templar knights, in their distinctive white mantles with a red cross, were among the most skilled fighting units of the Crusades.[5] Non-combatant members of the Order managed a large economic infrastructure throughout Christendom,[6] innovating financial techniques that were an early form of banking,[7][8] and building fortifications across Europe and the Holy Land.

The Templars' existence was tied closely to the Crusades; when the Holy Land was lost, support for the Order faded. Rumours about the Templars' secret initiation ceremony created mistrust and King Philip IV of France, deeply in debt to the Order, took advantage of the situation. In 1307, many of the Order's members in France were arrested, tortured into giving false confessions, and then burned at the stake.[9] Under pressure from King Philip, Pope Clement V disbanded the Order in 1312. The abrupt disappearance of a major part of the European infrastructure gave rise to speculation and legends, which have kept the "Templar" name alive into the modern day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar

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