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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKickstarter pick-up guide tells men: ‘Pull out your c-ck and put her hand on it’
Its designed to be easy to understand, quick to read and full of inspirational advice that gets people out there actually practicing and talking to women, Hoinsky said in the introductory video for the project posted on Kickstarter.
In the written project description, Hoinsky said that while some of the books content will be original, other sections will be taken from the best material he posted on Reddits seduction community, which he described in the video as a sub-site where a bunch of men who are going through similar issues in their life come and exchange tips and stories and their experience and try to help each other out.
Those posts include a 9-part series that, as blogger Casey Malone reported contains this advice, since taken down, regarding physical escalation and sex:
Decide that youre going to sit in a position where you can rub her leg and back. Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Dont ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.
Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Dont ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.
~snip~
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/19/kickstarter-pick-up-guide-tells-men-pull-out-your-c-ck-and-put-her-hand-on-it/
Inspirational advice encouraging men to become modern alpha males vs. promoting rape culture?
This quote is telling: "Its designed to be easy to understand, quick to read and full of inspirational advice that gets people out there actually practicing and talking to women..."
So women aren't even people to this guy?
Warpy
(111,136 posts)is opening himself up to a charge of sexual battery at worst and having his dinner dropped in his lap as the woman storms out at best.
This is incredibly bad advice. I think "dating" is only vaguely theoretical to the author.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)This is the kind of thing you might say to your worst enemy as some sort of advice in the hopes a couple of dozen women slap them, throw drinks in their faces or dump large bowls of spaghetti and meatballs over their heads.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)Nothing says elegance, charm and savoir-faire like a guy grabbing my hand and putting it on his dick. I would be so impressed with a man who did that on a first date; I'd totally want him if he did that.
Actually, he'd find more than my hand on his dick. Depending on the setting, it would be a lapful of hot coffee, a lapful of hot soup, or a strategic thrust with a fork.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...enjoy it when the vice squad chucks you into the perv tank downtown.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)There is a big difference between "alpha-male" & pervert..
alp227
(32,005 posts)They're letting the pervs RUIN the term "alpha male", for chrissakes! And most ignorant Americans wonder WHY we need feminism?
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)I mean really? Take a body part capable of extremely tight gripping, generally tipped with sharp objects, and stick it on your most sensitive area? Does he have any clue of the possibilities? Because I know what I'm gonna do if someone shoves their dick in my hand without an invite...
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Since the woman will probably have fled some distance before you're half-way unzipped.
alp227
(32,005 posts)now that he's gone to prison for being a pedophile. Chances are he's ghost writing this stupid "book".
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)She was laughing herself hoarse as she read through it and passed it across the aisle a couple times with her favorite suggestions, one of which was similar to the above. Another still involved following a woman into the bathroom. She promised me $500 if I would try the flight attendant scenario which probably would have got the flight intercepted by F-16's and me looking like this guy.
ismnotwasm
(41,965 posts)Even Jay figured that wasn't cool, with the help of his badass angel
Oh, definitely NSFW and contains offensive language
Squinch
(50,911 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Try this foolproof guide
Initech
(100,034 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)"...inspirational advice that gets people out there actually practicing and talking to women..."
I should hope that the man and woman already have gotten to know each other, when this kind of sexual horseplay happens. If not, that's assault.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)emotionally stunted males attempting to emulate behaviors that they cant possibly understand based on their limited social skills.
this kind of amateur PUA bullshit is how women really end up in danger. when the "advice" doesn't work because, well all men aren't created equal, the ugly emotional insecurity rears its ugly head when he is rebuffed for his clunky behavior.
bad juju for women everywhere.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,908 posts)because that clip was the first thing I thought of when I read the title of this OP.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,908 posts)So many incidents in my life and stories that I read remind me of Seinfeld episodes for it to be mere coincidence. Considering how badly some of those Seinfeld situations turned out, perhaps it's a good strategy to do the OPPOSITE of what the characters do...oh, wait...THAT's an episode too!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Initech
(100,034 posts)I can pretty much tie anything going on to a Seinfeld or Simpsons clip.
Initech
(100,034 posts)And if that's how "real men" think according to that asshole, I'll gladly shred my man card.
Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)jessie04
(1,528 posts)nt
alp227
(32,005 posts)than THIS disgusting, perverted waste of trees that's not even worth cleaning the nether regions.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)WovenGems
(776 posts)after this was written "A blow by blow account of how to commit rape".
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)..AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHGGHHHHHHHHH..not on the ball!!!!!!!...not on the Bal.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGgGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)place after she had kicked them all the way up to my nostrils....
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And show her your back hair ... so she knows you are one dominant beast!
historylovr
(1,557 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)It's just poison ivy you had me rub on your dick."
mythology
(9,527 posts)a fool and his money are soon parted. I can't believe that people would actually give money to this sort of stupidity.
But this does also violate Kickstarter's code of conduct.
For whatever it's worth, there's a petition to have Kickstarter not send the money funding this tripe:
http://www.dosomething.org/petition/kickstarter
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)get a lawyer
Dash87
(3,220 posts)The "Alpha Male" does not even actually exist where a quintessential alpha male is supposed to exist: wolf packs. It certainly doesn't apply to human interactions.
Either this is satire, or these people are very dumb.
Also, I would have to ask these people to never use the term "Alpha" again - as in being "Alpha" or "That's so alpha!" It's so douchy and cringe-worthy, especially knowing that it's coming from some nerd-ass, WoW-obsessed, pimple-faced man-child that has girl and misogyny issues.
These tools are as much of pickup artists as I am a rocket scientist.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)who, if someone tried that on them, would show him something he's never seen before - the other end.