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The Los Angeles Police Department said there appears to be no foul play in the one-vehicle accident that killed journalist Michael Hastings.
The Los Angeles County coroner on Thursday positively identified Hastings as the driver of a Mercedes that crashed on Highland Avenue near Melrose Avenue on Tuesday morning.
Hastings' involvement with hot-button stories has led to a variety of conspiracy theories arising on the Internet over his death. But LAPD officials said the incident appears to have been an accident and that no other vehicles were involved. Officials are trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was ongoing.
Video of the accident scene showed the car engulfed in flames. Law enforcement sources said the car appeared to be going at a high rate of speed but emphasized that the investigation was ongoing.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-no-foul-play-suspected-in-michael-hastings-death-lapd-saysd-20130620,0,7630869.story
Hopefully this CT will be buried once and for all.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Facts rarely get in the way of a good CT.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)zappaman
(20,605 posts)Accidents don't happen in CTville.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)JI7
(89,172 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)This case really bugs you?
You only have more than a few threads on this.
How long will you allow this to bug you?
The investigation is ongoing. You may need to get some sleep, eh?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I didn't want to see his death clouded by conspiracy theories.
IS that OK with you?
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)You think if he believed everything the FBI told him?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Don't like my posts?
Too damn bad.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Your dancing away however......
"What did you like about Hastings" is a pretty simple question.
It's funny you refuse an answer....
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Even if i hated him, I could just make something up.
OK....I take it back. I hated him.
Happy?
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I never even knew much about him. Until these days.
Out of respect for him and the journalism he produced, a thorough and complete and independent investigation is called for. No reason to make snap judgements.
You just keep on posting, this is quite educational, since I am just getting to know you.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)They never lie and they are always right.
JI7
(89,172 posts)saying he was speeding ? is that all part of the set up/cover up ?
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The investigation is ongoing. There is no need to make immediate conclusions. That is what an investigator like Hastings would tell you. In respect to the man, just chill.
HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)due to his being followed by another vehicle.
Don't work in law enforcement, so I have no idea how one goes about proving or disproving something like that. Just an idle thought that has crossed my mind today.
treestar
(82,383 posts)never lies and can be trusted 100%, isn't that true?
HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)are issuing opinion from their nether orifice. LAPD lie lie lie, they brutalize and murder and oppress. Period. They are a gang of the worst sort. Racist, sexist, brutal...anyone who knows nothing of them can take it elsewhere.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)People just saying non-approved things.
The nerve!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)but they do what city hall tells them. Unfortunately, city hall does what the downtown business lobby ccala.org tell them. I've seen this to include some 20 arrests for Occupy activists using =water-soluble children's sidewalk chalk=. None of the arrests were prosecuted, but those people were cuffed and hauled off every time. I was present for at least two of them (against the same individual). Why? cca are a target of Occupy Los Angeles and Occupy Skid Row, and in their 2020 plans .pdf they state specifically that they intend to rid downtown of "intelligence-based graffiti". In fact, LAPD were directed to arrest anyone at the monthly Artwalk using this instantly-removable by water children's chalk. Several people were roughed up and arrested, carted off in police cars, even for chalking "I (heart) LAPD". People got upset. Rather upset, at this obvious bullshit, and took to the streets in anger. LAPD responded as usual, with riot police shooting rubber bullets and even tasers at the righteous crowd.
All because LAPD do what city hall says, and city hall does what cca says. Don't believe me? Take a few seconds and hear what police chief Beck and then mayor Mr. Villain had to say on the matter of riot police attacking an art gathering (and by extension, the additional and long-term Occupy arrests) :
WATER-SOLUBLE CHILDREN'S CHALK. CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.
That's what business influence of city hall buys you. Why would anyone then imagine that larger power structures not have even greater influence, that such scum would not cheerfully do what they're told by The Government?
This is why they WOULD:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022154200
DHS, FBI, and other "agencies" share information these days, quite freely, especially through "fusion centers". Police departments do what they're told. DHS, FBI, may directly tell police agencies to do certain things, and guess what? If they refuse, it's against the Feds themselves. Not likely!!!
magellan
(13,257 posts)Lived there for several years. You're spot on. Anyone who trusts the LAPD is clueless.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Oh right, cops everywhere are no good.
Why don't we just disband them all and get our own guns to protect ourselves?
magellan
(13,257 posts)HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)Rampart Scandal, might give you pause.
The New Rampart Police Station
The Rampart investigation, based mainly on statements of the admitted corrupt officer (Pérez), initially implicated over 70 officers of wrongdoing. Of those officers, enough evidence was found to bring 58 before an internal administrative board. However, of the officers named by Pérez, only 24 were actually found to have committed any wrongdoing, with 12 given suspensions of various lengths, 7 forced to resign or retire, and 5 fired.[2] As a result of the probe into falsified evidence and police perjury, 106 prior criminal convictions were overturned.[3] The Rampart Scandal resulted in more than 140 civil lawsuits against the city of Los Angeles, costing the city an estimated $125 million in settlements.[4]
. . . .
As of 2013 the full extent of Rampart corruption is not known, with several rape, murder and robbery investigations involving Rampart officers remaining unsolved.[6][7] Emphasis added
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal
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In just one instance, the LAPD Rampart CRASH officers shot a Latino, leaving him paralyzed for life, then planted a gun on him to "prove" it was a justifiable shooting.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Quite the desperate crusade.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)don't post anything that gets in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)don't post anything that gets in the way of a good preemptive debunking.
MADem
(135,425 posts)autopsy will reveal?"
I think incidents like this might bring out the people who believe DU is divided in the way you indicate, but there are plenty of people here who just don't buy into that bull. Sure, some might "have an idea" about what they think might have happened, but, if their suspicions are not realized, will not stomp their foot, become enraged, engage in denial, or spit furiously as the suggestion that their theory wasn't the correct one.
We know no one was "chasing" him--there's video of the car whipping through the intersection, and no one was on the guy's tail. We don't know if he was heading home after a long day, or heading out to do some late night paryting or meeting someone for a more serious reason.
We just don't know. None of us were his BFF; his wife might know what his schedule was, but no one here "knew" the guy. So we theorize. It is what people do on discussion boards--they start and engage in discussions.
Time will reveal all, I am sure.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)YeahSureRight
(205 posts)not that long ago were all suicides. SSDD
More along citizen nothing more to see......
MADem
(135,425 posts)I was wondering if the car was rented, but it was probably his, or leased. I wonder if his wife had moved to the west coast?
JI7
(89,172 posts)it might have been a longer stay though . but i don't think he moved permanently.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Bwahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahhaha.
Cool story, bro.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Seeing how as the LAPD is so well known for being so honest and forthright in everything they, how would anyone dare to ever question those fascist SOBs.
Bwahahahahahahahahhahahaha.
You're a funny guy.
Ter
(4,281 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)If the fuel line is compromised (say, by running over a fire hydrant), you're going to have gasoline on hot metal, and we know what happens....
I apologize for the sound track on this thing--turn it down if you cannot bear it:
One-car crash into a light pole:
Fiery car crash on sleepy Cape Cod:
Fact of the matter is, they DO sometimes look like that. If they never looked like that, there'd be more forensic people pitching a public fit.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I was on the 405 freeway in LA a few years ago. Some lady in front of me hit her breaks hard, the pickup truck fishtailed and flipped over. We pulled her out of the truck after it flipped. She was fine, but all of a sudden smokes starts coming from the engine and in a few minutes the entire truck is engulfed in flames.
Car wrecks often end up in a fiery mess.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)zappaman
(20,605 posts)I can take you by there later so you can see the invisible crater left by the bomb.
Make sure to bring your special glasses that enable you to see invisible craters.
The Link
(757 posts)I see no reason to doubt what they say on this or any subject.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You'll excuse me if I dont believe a fucking word they say on what constitutes foul play.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)But that doesn't mean they lie in every instance. If they did lie when it comes to Hastings, what is their goal?
To cover for the Feds.
This is just getting way too Alex Jones for me.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Only pointing out that "the LAPD says... " doesn't carry a ton of weight with me.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)I hope Buzzfeed hires their own investigators.