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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:43 PM Jun 2013

NYT: Documents Detail N.S.A. Surveillance Rules

Documents Detail N.S.A. Surveillance Rules

By SCOTT SHANE

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On Thursday, in the latest release of documents supplied by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. contractor now believed to be hiding in Hong Kong, The Guardian published two documents setting out the detailed rules governing the agency’s intercepts...They show, for example, that N.S.A. officers who intercept an American online or on the phone — say, while monitoring the phone or e-mail of a foreign diplomat or a suspected terrorist — can preserve the recording or transcript if they believe the contents include “foreign intelligence information” or evidence of a possible crime. They can likewise preserve the intercept if it contains information on a “threat of serious harm to life or property” or sheds light on technical issues like encryption or vulnerability to cyberattacks.

And while N.S.A. analysts usually have to delete Americans’ names from the reports they write, there are numerous exceptions, including cases where there is evidence that the American in the intercept is working for a terrorist group, foreign country or foreign corporation.

The documents, classified “Secret,” describe the procedures for eavesdropping under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act, including an N.S.A. program called Prism that mines Internet communications using services including Gmail and Facebook. They are likely to add fuel for both sides of the debate over the proper limits of the government’s surveillance programs.

They offer a glimpse of a rule-bound intelligence bureaucracy that is highly sensitive to the distinction between foreigners and “U.S. persons,” which technically include not only American citizens and legal residents but American companies and nonprofit organizations as well. The two sets of rules, each nine pages long, belie the image of a rogue intelligence agency recklessly violating Americans’ privacy.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/politics/documents-detail-nsa-surveillance-rules.html

WaPo: New documents reveal parameters of NSA’s secret surveillance programs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058091



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NYT: Documents Detail N.S.A. Surveillance Rules (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP
The rules? kentuck Jun 2013 #1
Yeah, sure RobertEarl Jun 2013 #2
Snowden is in the same class as Bush and Cheney, they made up their own rules. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #5
They have rules! That makes it all better. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #3
Perhaps the rules are being followed except for rogue employees lke Snowden. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #4
Honor amongst thieves and spies? kentuck Jun 2013 #6
What about the other three whistleblowers? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #7
There are some things you may not know much about and just because you might Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #8
And how many think like Cheney? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #9
Snowden apparently thinks like Cheney, they both make up their own rules. My point Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #10
So, you think Cheney RobertEarl Jun 2013 #11
Now just how have you come to this conclusion? are you a part of the cause, Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #12
Kick! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #13
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Yeah, sure
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jun 2013

If they follow the rules.

But what if the contractors are more beholden to Cheney? Ya think Bush/Cheney are a good example of following the rules?

You do know Cheney's spies are still in the NSA, right?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Perhaps the rules are being followed except for rogue employees lke Snowden.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jun 2013

Would not trust him ir the information he is delivering, his integrity is gone, he was not able to maintain the Code of Ethics. There have been many who served honorably for years in similar positions but every now and then you run across his type. The world does not need this wreck less behavior.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
6. Honor amongst thieves and spies?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jun 2013

"...but every now and then you run across his type"

Yeah, with 500,000 contract workers, you are bound run across his type once in a while. Most of the time, however, you would probably run across someone that would sell the information to our enemies for a huge sum of money and a safe port. The press would not know anything about it.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. There are some things you may not know much about and just because you might
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jun 2013

Think like Snowden there are many many who do not.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Snowden apparently thinks like Cheney, they both make up their own rules. My point
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jun 2013

To you is there has been good decent people working in capacities of hearing conversations who do not run and deliver the information to anyone. This was not and is not a part of his job description to do so.

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