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AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:22 PM Jun 2013

George Zimmerman Trial: Panel of women jurors a "slam dunk" for defense, expert says - FL USA

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George Zimmerman Trial: Panel of women jurors a "slam dunk" for defense, expert says - FL USA
By Erin Donaghue Topics Daily Blotter

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57590372-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-panel-of-women-jurors-a-slam-dunk-for-defense-expert-says/

&quot CBS/AP) The six women chosen to sit on the jury that will weigh George Zimmerman's fate may be sympathetic to the former neighborhood watch captain's case, one defense expert says -- though their views on guns, crime and community will likely be more relevant in the deliberation room than their gender... "

PICTURES: George Zimmerman in court

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George Zimmerman Trial: Panel of women jurors a "slam dunk" for defense, expert says - FL USA (Original Post) AmyStrange Jun 2013 OP
Well then... actslikeacarrot Jun 2013 #1
It feels to me... AmyStrange Jun 2013 #3
what an offensive and insulting remark this cretin made. and, some of the comments after niyad Jun 2013 #2
Being Anonymous... AmyStrange Jun 2013 #4
Good news, bad news... pokerfan Jun 2013 #5
Yeah? If ONE of them thinks young black men are "scary"... jberryhill Jun 2013 #7
I saw some of the jury challenges today pokerfan Jun 2013 #11
No lawyer - EVER - says "slam dunk" jberryhill Jun 2013 #6
Really? dflprincess Jun 2013 #8
i don't think it is a slam dunk grok Jun 2013 #9
O'Mara didn't take this case to lose it customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #10
good , I think he was being railroaded from the start newmember Jun 2013 #12
Oh, please...Do tell how he "was being railroaded from the start.".. Zimmerman is a murderer. monmouth3 Jun 2013 #14
I wonder how many "defense experts" exist in the country snooper2 Jun 2013 #13
 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
3. It feels to me...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jun 2013

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thank you for sharing carrot,


it feels like this is all just for show. Is anything good going to result from this? Hope I'm wrong,

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niyad

(113,074 posts)
2. what an offensive and insulting remark this cretin made. and, some of the comments after
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jun 2013

that article are vile.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
4. Being Anonymous...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jun 2013

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makes it easy for people to be dark and nasty. Sad really.

Anyway, thank you for sharing niyad,

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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
5. Good news, bad news...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jun 2013

From the Leatherman Law Blog...

I tried hundreds of cases during my 30 year career and never had an all female or an all male jury.

5 of the 6 women are white. One is Hispanic.

5 of the 6 women are mothers.

I would be very worried, if I were George Zimmerman, because I believe those mothers are not going to believe him. I think they are going to hold him accountable for killing an unarmed teenager.

I am unhappy that none of the jurors are black, but I do not believe that is going to affect the final outcome of this case.

More: http://frederickleatherman.com/
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Yeah? If ONE of them thinks young black men are "scary"...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

In Florida? Nahhhh... Not that hotbed of love in the kinship of all humans, that beacon of universal tolerance and respect.... Couldn't happen.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
11. I saw some of the jury challenges today
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:07 AM
Jun 2013

and Mark O'Mara was quite effective at striking any black prospective juror, for non-racial reasons of course.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. No lawyer - EVER - says "slam dunk"
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jun 2013

If you ever want a roomful of experienced lawyers to look at you funny, tell them something is a "slam dunk". Use that exact phrase.

And watch them take a breath while thinking of how to most tactfully ask you, "Son, have you ever been in a real mud wrestling match?"

"Experts" - "Slam dunk".... Yeah, sure guys. Just what are they "experts" in?

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
8. Really?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jun 2013

My first thought was any moms among those jurors are going to identify with Trayvon's mother. I'm not a mom but I can't imagine what she's been through - her child goes out to buy a snack and never comes back? I would think it's every parent's nightmare.

 

grok

(550 posts)
9. i don't think it is a slam dunk
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

I'd give an edge to the defense and that's it. no more.

But if you think about it, it makes the framing of the lawyer's message that much easier.

For example, if you can make some associations that can put them in George’s shoes. Afterall, how often is a woman beaten in their lives by an aggressive young beau or husband? How often do they wish they had had a gun to prevent or stop it? How often are women accused of provoking a rapist by doing something perfectly legal though not exactly smart?

You may not agree with this characterization, but it very well might be possible to convey it in a much better way than i just did.



I think we will quickly find out who is the more competent lawyer is in this one

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. O'Mara didn't take this case to lose it
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jun 2013

I've been saying this for months, he knows that his fee range will be in the tens of millions of dollars if he can win a full acquittal for someone already fully convicted in the media, someone "everyone knows is guilty".

With 100% women on the jury, five of them white, one Hispanic, and two of them gun owners, he's done a superb job of stacking that panel. You think he was playing the best cards he held in the pre-trial period? You ain't seen nothing yet. He's going to put Trayvon Martin on trial here. Given the make up of the jury, he's off to a fine start.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
14. Oh, please...Do tell how he "was being railroaded from the start.".. Zimmerman is a murderer.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:15 AM
Jun 2013

Please explain..

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. I wonder how many "defense experts" exist in the country
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:36 AM
Jun 2013

CBS partial fail--


I hope folks in journalism school aren't looking to the current environment as the "standard" in journalism.
Or bloggers who pretend to be "journalists"


I don't know if there is another profession that has gone downhill more in the past 15 years-

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