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Archae

(46,301 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:39 PM Jun 2013

The "Michael Hastings was a hit job" people keep forgetting one unavoidable fact.

Shit happens.

A witness to the crash says Hastings was driving like a bat out of hell, Mercedes or not, drving like he was, I'm not surprised he lost control and smashed into a tree.

If I say Obama is part of a conspiracy to put a Satanic Kenyan in the White House, I'm called a nut.
If I say Bill Clinton had dozens of people killed, I'm called a nut.

But the pet left-wing conspiracy theories, even after for all intensive purposes are proven to be absolute bullshit, "Oh that's different!"

Michael Hastings drive too fast and ran into a tree.
A left-wing nut shot JFK.
An Arabic nut shot RFK.
A certified nut shot Reagan.
We went to the Moon.
There is no "Illuminati" or "Cabal of Jews/Satanists/whatever."

Case closed. (Except to the Alex Jones/Coast To Coast AM fruitcakes.)

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The "Michael Hastings was a hit job" people keep forgetting one unavoidable fact. (Original Post) Archae Jun 2013 OP
But, but, but, what about my late night space alien anal probing? longship Jun 2013 #1
omg flamingdem Jun 2013 #9
LIHOP! MIHOP! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #2
how can the case be closed? Enrique Jun 2013 #3
Because the OP said so. hootinholler Jun 2013 #19
FFS. If you're going to write condescending and purposefully insulting posts, at least take a moment Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #4
Because it's near-automatic sometimes. Archae Jun 2013 #14
Well, this is SoCal and you know how laid back we usually are. So maybe it HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #30
We may be laid back here, but we take our purposes intensively, dammit! pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #37
WHY was he driving like "a bat out of hell"? n/t KurtNYC Jun 2013 #5
Who knows? Archae Jun 2013 #11
You said the case was closed so I thought perhaps you would know KurtNYC Jun 2013 #20
Exactly. If the FBI dogging him caused him to become upset and change his behavior Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #21
I wouldn't reach a conclusion without more facts -- one of which being: WHY was he driving ~80MPH? KurtNYC Jun 2013 #23
I realize even suggesting this may be blasphemy... Archae Jun 2013 #28
Exactly. EOTE Jun 2013 #25
Fell asleep (passed out) with foot on the accelerator. That's how my nephew died. at 5 AM. SharonAnn Jun 2013 #38
'Shit happens' enables CTs...amazing watching the haters Rex Jun 2013 #6
I was going to say it's silly to make assertions either way, when I realized... Marr Jun 2013 #7
Funny, I noticed that too and have been posting about it! Rex Jun 2013 #13
He was flying through red lights because he had a bomb in his car Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #8
There are all sorts of cacahučtes in the can BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #10
Sorry I saw Capricorn I, and we never went to the moon. It was a Hollywood set still_one Jun 2013 #12
That was Mars. nt EOTE Jun 2013 #27
No it was An la sound stage still_one Jun 2013 #32
I'm still sticking to my rabid unicorns were chasing him theory. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #15
Effin unicorns! struggle4progress Jun 2013 #29
ack. lame. and I think that odds are great that he simply had an accident cali Jun 2013 #16
For all intensive purposes? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #17
Hey, be nice. It's a tough road to hoe, all things being sequel. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #34
I think it's adorable how you're conviced that Chiropracty is an organized global scam, but Electric Monk Jun 2013 #18
The Illuminati did exist. Past tense. Archae Jun 2013 #22
You're no fun, Archae. And you're trampling on the Zeitgeist faith, which has millions of faithful. freshwest Jun 2013 #36
...and Vince Foster shot HIMSELF in the head. alphafemale Jun 2013 #24
Maybe he was fleeing someone. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #26
Thank you. That was the idle thought I had yesterday - that there might HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #31
how difficult? sigmasix Jun 2013 #33
Not too hard RobertEarl Jun 2013 #35
What's even going to be harder... Archae Jun 2013 #39

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. But, but, but, what about my late night space alien anal probing?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jun 2013

I suppose that was just my imagination.


hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
19. Because the OP said so.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jun 2013


Personally, I have no idea if the dude was prone to running red lights at high speeds, or if something spooked him. The fact is that bad things happen to good reporters.
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
4. FFS. If you're going to write condescending and purposefully insulting posts, at least take a moment
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

and learn the proper phrases you use.

The phrase you want is "for all intents and purposes"

And don't forget to check the spelling.

Archae

(46,301 posts)
14. Because it's near-automatic sometimes.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jun 2013

Plane crash? "Conspiracy!" "Cover-up!"

Car crash? "Conspiracy!" "Cover-up!"

Stub my toe? "Conspiracy!" "Cover-up!"

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
30. Well, this is SoCal and you know how laid back we usually are. So maybe it
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

was for 'intensive purposes' !



Archae

(46,301 posts)
11. Who knows?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

Why does anyone decide to drive way too fast?

In 1980 I was hit head-on by a woman driving too fast.
Was I the victim of a "conspiracy?"

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
21. Exactly. If the FBI dogging him caused him to become upset and change his behavior
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jun 2013

into modes dangerous to himself, they are guilty of reckless endagerment or even domestic terrorism (by their own definition; look it up).

Aaron Schwartz was dogged by DOJ unto suicide. Even if it's not as clear a someone firing a gun, there are other methods of endangering and harming others.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
23. I wouldn't reach a conclusion without more facts -- one of which being: WHY was he driving ~80MPH?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

and blowing through red lights in a heavily residential neighborhood of Hollywood at 4AM.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
25. Exactly.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jun 2013

I keep hearing those who denigrate the "grassy knoll conspiracy theorists" keep pointing to that as if it suggests that foul play WASN'T involved. This is what appears to be a rational man and he's driving extremely fast and blowing red lights. WHY was he doing that? I have a feeling he's just not the type to drive incredibly recklessly like that.

SharonAnn

(13,771 posts)
38. Fell asleep (passed out) with foot on the accelerator. That's how my nephew died. at 5 AM.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jun 2013

Or, the car was tampered with causing it to speed up.

Or ?????

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. 'Shit happens' enables CTs...amazing watching the haters
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jun 2013

enable CTs with incredibly weak responses. Hey maybe that is a CT in and by itself!

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
7. I was going to say it's silly to make assertions either way, when I realized...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:51 PM
Jun 2013

the only people I see making assertions are the ones insisting it was just an accident. Why are you so certain? And why the constant strawman about 'Obama killing this guy' or ordering it done? I haven't seen anyone make such a crazy claim.

I haven't seen any evidence of foul play here, but you know, considering the circumstances, I don't think it's crazy to consider the possibility, either.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Funny, I noticed that too and have been posting about it!
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jun 2013

The instant denials, funny how no one suggested the FBI had him killed. Only the CT haters! Makes the paranoid mind ad an extra layer of tinfoil to their hat imo.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
8. He was flying through red lights because he had a bomb in his car
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

And was trying to get to the cops. Or it was a stick of dynamite and he was trying to catch the wind to blow out the fuse. None make any sense.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
15. I'm still sticking to my rabid unicorns were chasing him theory.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jun 2013

You can't disprove it, so it must be true.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. ack. lame. and I think that odds are great that he simply had an accident
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jun 2013

you do realize that outlandish things happen, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov

but your post is priceless for the hilarious misuse of the word "intensive".

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
18. I think it's adorable how you're conviced that Chiropracty is an organized global scam, but
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jun 2013

there is no way that an organization such as the Illuminati could ever have possibly existed.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. You're no fun, Archae. And you're trampling on the Zeitgeist faith, which has millions of faithful.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jun 2013


It was a satisfying mental masturbation while it lasted. And you will catch hell for daring to speak against the cult. There's always been a lot of money to be made in CT.

Shame on you!



But no kidding, hugs and kisses for that link. Very good. Just when I was going out the door.



Personally, though, the last time I was hit in an auto crash and knocked out, it seemed like a government conspiracy. They wanted to silence me!



 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
31. Thank you. That was the idle thought I had yesterday - that there might
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jun 2013

have been some car pursuing him. I have not heard any of the witnesses say anything one way or the other and I'm not sure how one would investigate such a possibility.

sigmasix

(794 posts)
33. how difficult?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jun 2013

How difficult would it be to install a radio control device that turns off the braking mechanism and leaves the throttle open? I'm not even remotely convinced that this is what happened; just wondering if such a device is possible...

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
35. Not too hard
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jun 2013

Most new cars have computer controlled brake and throttle systems.

What might be hard is finding out if the computer was hacked.

Archae

(46,301 posts)
39. What's even going to be harder...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:35 PM
Jun 2013

When all the investigations point to a simple car accident.

I'm not saying that will definitely be the outcome, but all the current evidence looks like it.

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