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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:21 AM Jun 2013

On the Espionage Act charges against Edward Snowden Glenn Greenwald

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/22/snowden-espionage-charges


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The US government has charged Edward Snowden with three felonies, including two under the Espionage Act, the 1917 statute enacted to criminalize dissent against World War I. My priority at the moment is working on our next set of stories, so I just want to briefly note a few points about this.

Prior to Barack Obama's inauguration, there were a grand total of three prosecutions of leakers under the Espionage Act (including the prosecution of Dan Ellsberg by the Nixon DOJ). That's because the statute is so broad that even the US government has largely refrained from using it. But during the Obama presidency, there are now seven such prosecutions: more than double the number under all prior US presidents combined. How can anyone justify that?

For a politician who tried to convince Americans to elect him based on repeated pledges of unprecedented transparency and specific vows to protect "noble" and "patriotic" whistleblowers, is this unparalleled assault on those who enable investigative journalism remotely defensible? Recall that the New Yorker's Jane Mayer said recently that this oppressive climate created by the Obama presidency has brought investigative journalism to a "standstill", while James Goodale, the General Counsel for the New York Times during its battles with the Nixon administration, wrote last month in that paper that "President Obama will surely pass President Richard Nixon as the worst president ever on issues of national security and press freedom." Read what Mayer and Goodale wrote and ask yourself: is the Obama administration's threat to the news-gathering process not a serious crisis at this point?

Few people - likely including Snowden himself - would contest that his actions constitute some sort of breach of the law. He made his choice based on basic theories of civil disobedience: that those who control the law have become corrupt, that the law in this case (by concealing the actions of government officials in building this massive spying apparatus in secret) is a tool of injustice, and that he felt compelled to act in violation of it in order to expose these official bad acts and enable debate and reform.
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On the Espionage Act charges against Edward Snowden Glenn Greenwald (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2013 OP
From one civil libertarian to another: OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #1
k&r Progressive dog Jun 2013 #3
Is it 'cause it's Saturday? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #4
Snowden's fake resume gave some food for thought, I think. randome Jun 2013 #5
k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #2
He's dismissing these laws like that? treestar Jun 2013 #6

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
1. From one civil libertarian to another:
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jun 2013
Few people - likely including Snowden himself - would contest that his actions constitute some sort of breach of the law. He made his choice based on basic theories of civil disobedience: that those who control the law have become corrupt, that the law in this case (by concealing the actions of government officials in building this massive spying apparatus in secret) is a tool of injustice, and that he felt compelled to act in violation of it in order to expose these official bad acts and enable debate and reform.


"Some sort of breach of the law", to Greenwald, is somehow different from "breaking the law"; wherein the perpetrator of the crime is either above the law or immune from it. If "he made his choice based on basic theories of civil disobedience" then he should willingly accept the consequences, as have many other actual civil libertarians before him. He has a defense, ostensibly, so his trial would actually be the perfect vehicle to expose these grievous acts.

I suggest, then, that Snowden surrender to the authorities and have his day in court like, say, Daniel Ellsberg. Otherwise, it would appear that he doesn't have the courage of his convictions.

Same goes for Greenwald, doubly, because his membership in the Fourth Estate all but requires him to bear witness to this "tool of injustice". Show the world what true journalism is. If you're indicted as a recipient of these ill-gotten secrets, use your trial as a beacon!

This could all be very cathartic, eh Glenn?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
4. Is it 'cause it's Saturday?
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jun 2013

Or is Greenwald finally on minute 16 of his fame?

Verrrrrrry quiet around these parts.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. Snowden's fake resume gave some food for thought, I think.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:35 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058698

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. He's dismissing these laws like that?
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jun 2013

18 USC 641 Theft of property and records

18 USC 793 Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

18 USC 798 Disclosure of classified information


How do those prevent dissent from any war? What a dishonest statement that is.

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