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FLASH: WikiLeaks has assisted Mr. Snowden's political asylum in a democratic country, travel papers ans safe exit from Hong Kong. More soon.
FLASH: Mr. Snowden is currently over Russian airspace accompanied by WikiLeaks legal advisors.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow?CMP=twt_fd
The newspaper claimed he took off from the airport at 10.55am on flight SU213 on Sunday morning and was due to arrive at Moscow's Shermetyevo International Airport at 5.15pm.
It added that the Russian embassy in Beijing would neither confirm nor deny he was on a flight to Moscow and the Russian consulate in Hong Kong declined to comment.
Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Russian president Vladimir Putin, said: "I don't [know if he's planning to stay in Moscow]. I heard about the potential [arrival] from the press. I know nothing."
On whether Moscow would still consider a request for asylum from Snowden: "Every application is considered so it's standard procedure We are not tracing his movements and I know nothing."
US authorities could not be reached for comment immediately.
WikiLeaks said on its Twitter feed that it had "assisted Mr Snowden's political asylum in a democratic country, travel papers and safe exit from Hong Kong".
On Friday, an Icelandic businessman linked to WikiLeaks told Reuters he had prepared a private plane for Snowden's use if the government was willing to give him asylum.
"A private jet is in place in China and we could fly Snowden over tomorrow if we get positive reaction from the interior ministry. We need to get confirmation of asylum and that he will not be extradited to the US. We would most want him to get a citizenship as well," said Olafur Vignir Sigurvinsson, a director of DataCell, which processed payments for WikiLeaks.
Its like a movie! Crazy.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)his options. Moscow is a large hub and he's not on a no fly list with the Russians vs a european or american airline.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)May transfer to Wikileaks plane, possibly go to Ecuador or Iceland.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow?CMP=twt_fd
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I just think Iceland hasn't committed yet vs
Equador.
Interesting.
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Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)And get their house in order.
I know, I know. Gotta make an example of him.
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Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)Maybe while yr waiting for justice to come a callin', you could while away some time trying to bring Bush to justice for the very real war crimes he committed?
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It would violate international law.
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davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Is that what you are saying?
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)And the DOJ sees it the same way too, then the tiny country slam. This is just HILARIOUS, lay off the bad spy novels Cali. The fucking billions of dollars comment is just a cherry, the frothing on the cake is enough.
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HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)After he turns off your night light.
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SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Went straight out the window when Snowden went from Whistle Blower to Chinese spy...He lost my support when he said he was looking out for the American people one day & then the next day he turned over classified info to the Chinese! Sorry, but that is not a "Whistle Blower" that is a traitor spy.
Curious what he is going to unveil once in Russia?
Rise Rebel Resist
(88 posts)your not yet the over ruler of the world just yet
Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)The rest of the world's been watching the decline of the US for a while and it won't be long before everyone else ignores its tantrums and demands....
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Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)What to do, what to do. Holy shit, Hong Kong Eddie just might eat Cali's lunch. Or dog. Or breakfast.
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davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Remember what happened when Iceland found out the FBI was in their country investigating Wikileaks? They kicked their asses out and put in a formal protest against the United States.
These countries don't give a shit about our DOJ.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/342639
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Rise Rebel Resist
(88 posts)the language used has a potent smell to it unmistakable, what's next drones over Iceland?
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Tragic. You really need to post more on this subject, DU has just not heard enough of your opinion on this matter. Really. Get. On. It.
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HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Oh no, that would be the cheerleaders of the NFL, sorry wrong country. Because nothing says beacon of freedom like the NFL.
MADem
(135,425 posts)renewal in July.
He'll probably end up in Cuba. Sucks for him--the internet access there stinks!
A new life awaits!
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Alexi Mostrous ?@AlexiMostrous 3m
Interfax reporting that #Snowden's ultimate destination is Venezuela (h/t @NomDePlume9) http://www.interfax.com/news.asp
MADem
(135,425 posts)We have an extradition treaty with VZ, though they might not honor it.
We refine a lot of VZ crude--they might not be thinking this through.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Declan McCullagh ?@declanm
Venezuela has a 1922 extradition treaty with the US. My quick read is that it doesn't cover Snowden's alleged crimes:
http://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-ven.pdf
MADem
(135,425 posts)And there aren't a lot of other places in the immediate area that can handle their product. They still have to "buy back" from USA because the stuff isn't useable without a lot of work.
Perhaps the Chinese are going to buy more of their sour and heavy oil and refine it--they are an oil-hungry nation, after all.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)because of the US ignoring Venezuela's Righteous request for the Terrorist Posada extradition which pissed them off.
magellan
(13,257 posts)...I don't blame him one bit for avoiding the US grasp. They tortured Manning.
A senior US official said HK should arrange to have Snowden extradited soonest or it could "raise questions about Hong Kongs commitment to the rule of law."
Pot meet kettle.
Run, Snowden, run!
MADem
(135,425 posts)He's going to have to earn somehow--and how long is that intel he stole going to have a good shelf life?
Interesting how the Chinese played that game to give him time to leave...they didn't want him around, either.
This is right up "Russia Today" Pootie Poot's alley, though. He must be thrilled.
Frying pan to fire--ain't that grand.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)ITV News ?@itvnews 14m
Russian news agency Interfax: There is a ticket in Edward Snowden's name for a Moscow to Cuba flight http://itv.co/19Zg4bG
steve2470
(37,457 posts)06/23 13:36 SNOWDEN'S ULTIMATE DESTINATION IS VENEZUELA WHERE HE WILL FLY TO FROM MOSCOW WITH STOPOVER IN HAVANA - SOURCE
http://www.interfax.com/
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He probably thought Cuba was more like Hawaii than North Korea is...
steve2470
(37,457 posts)06/23 13:40 Nobody will detain Snowden at Sheremetyevo, if his visa is alright - police
http://www.interfax.com/ , left side of page, Headlines
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)wrong link, I guess.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)06/23 13:51 ACCORDING TO SOME REPORTS, SNOWDEN MAY BE TRAVELLING VIA MOSCOW - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY
http://www.interfax.com/news.asp
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Glenn Greenwald ?@ggreenwald 1m
The fact that a person flies to City X does not mean that is their intended ultimate destination
steve2470
(37,457 posts)RT ?@RT_com 6m
UPDATE: #Snowden to take SU150 flight to Havana tomorrow, then flies to Caracas with local airline via @ITARTASS_news http://on.rt.com/jqm8cb
https://twitter.com/RT_com
steve2470
(37,457 posts)06/23 14:01 Venezuela is Snowden's ultimate destination, he will make stopovers in Moscow and Havana - source
http://www.interfax.com/news.asp
East Coast Pirate
(775 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)BREAKING NEWS
RT SOURCE: NSA LEAKER SNOWDEN IS ALREADY IN MOSCOW
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)In who's fantasyland?