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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:53 AM Jun 2013

From Twitter: @wikileaks FLASH: WikiLeaks has assisted Mr. Snowden's political asylum

WikiLeaks ?@wikileaks 2m
FLASH: WikiLeaks has assisted Mr. Snowden's political asylum in a democratic country, travel papers ans safe exit from Hong Kong. More soon.


WikiLeaks ?@wikileaks 19s
FLASH: Mr. Snowden is currently over Russian airspace accompanied by WikiLeaks legal advisors.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow?CMP=twt_fd

According to the South China Morning Post he boarded an Aeroflot flight to Moscow, although the newspaper said Russia was not his ultimate destination. It suggested he might go to Ecuador or Iceland – having cited the latter as a possible refuge in an interview with the Guardian.

The newspaper claimed he took off from the airport at 10.55am on flight SU213 on Sunday morning and was due to arrive at Moscow's Shermetyevo International Airport at 5.15pm.

It added that the Russian embassy in Beijing would neither confirm nor deny he was on a flight to Moscow and the Russian consulate in Hong Kong declined to comment.

Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Russian president Vladimir Putin, said: "I don't [know if he's planning to stay in Moscow]. I heard about the potential [arrival] from the press. I know nothing."

On whether Moscow would still consider a request for asylum from Snowden: "Every application is considered so it's standard procedure … We are not tracing his movements and I know nothing."

US authorities could not be reached for comment immediately.

WikiLeaks said on its Twitter feed that it had "assisted Mr Snowden's political asylum in a democratic country, travel papers and safe exit from Hong Kong".

On Friday, an Icelandic businessman linked to WikiLeaks told Reuters he had prepared a private plane for Snowden's use if the government was willing to give him asylum.

"A private jet is in place in China and we could fly Snowden over tomorrow if we get positive reaction from the interior ministry. We need to get confirmation of asylum and that he will not be extradited to the US. We would most want him to get a citizenship as well," said Olafur Vignir Sigurvinsson, a director of DataCell, which processed payments for WikiLeaks.
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From Twitter: @wikileaks FLASH: WikiLeaks has assisted Mr. Snowden's political asylum (Original Post) Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP
:). dkf Jun 2013 #1
His choice of airlines narrows Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #2
Guardian article says he's on Aeroflot. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #3
That makes sense with the private plane from Moscow Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #5
Or they could just let it go. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #9
It's looking like he doesn't... Violet_Crumble Jun 2013 #11
What you are suggesting is illegal and an act of war davidn3600 Jun 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #16
So we expect everyone else to abide by international law, but we don't have to? davidn3600 Jun 2013 #19
There you have it In Your Opinion HangOnKids Jun 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #41
Maybe he can crawl under your bed and yell Bogga Bogga HangOnKids Jun 2013 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #44
Any hopes of that... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #52
Or they could tell American nationalists to take a FFF to themselves Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #10
I think the realisation that the US is a toothless tiger's a bit slow to dawn on some... Violet_Crumble Jun 2013 #12
Britains the same NT Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #21
Pretty much n/t Violet_Crumble Jun 2013 #30
Bazinga! HangOnKids Jun 2013 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #17
Our laws dont apply to Ecuador or Iceland davidn3600 Jun 2013 #22
The US never charged wikileaks or Assange. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #25
no I mean American nationalists Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #23
Do you haz a sad that Hong Kong Eddie isn't going to get punished for the breakup? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #49
I'm sure they have pom poms a wavin' HangOnKids Jun 2013 #50
Iceland has a newly elected center right leader. Ecuador's trade agreement with USA is up for MADem Jun 2013 #27
SNOWDEN'S ULTIMATE DESTINATION IS VENEZUELA WHERE HE WILL FLY TO FROM MOSCOW WITH STOPOVER IN HAVANA Hissyspit Jun 2013 #32
That sounds like a terrible final resting place. Cuba makes more sense. MADem Jun 2013 #37
Declan McCullagh ‏@declanm 7m Venezuela has a 1922 extradition treaty with the US. My quick read is Hissyspit Jun 2013 #38
Well, we refine a LOT of their crude. MADem Jun 2013 #42
Well he won't get extradited Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #39
Knowing what they did to Bradley Manning magellan Jun 2013 #7
Maybe Gerard Depardieu will hire him to maintain his computer and AV equipment. MADem Jun 2013 #8
ITV News ‏@itvnews 14m Russian news agency Interfax: There is a ticket in Edward Snowden's name for Hissyspit Jun 2013 #18
maybe Venezuela ? steve2470 Jun 2013 #20
Why would he go to Cuba, I wonder? nt octoberlib Jun 2013 #24
Because Iceland and Ecuador don't want him, and Cuba still ain't speaking to us, nor we with them? MADem Jun 2013 #33
Snowden will not be detained if visa is ok steve2470 Jun 2013 #26
Ha, I went to the Interfax site a few minutes ago, but it was in Russian. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #28
yea, I got lucky, just did a English language search for interfax nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #29
Russian foriegn ministry statement steve2470 Jun 2013 #31
Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1m The fact that a person flies to City X Hissyspit Jun 2013 #34
from RT: steve2470 Jun 2013 #35
more interfax: steve2470 Jun 2013 #36
Run, Eddie, run! East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #46
already in Moscow per RT ???? steve2470 Jun 2013 #48
Russia is "Democratic"?? SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #51

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. His choice of airlines narrows
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:03 AM
Jun 2013

his options. Moscow is a large hub and he's not on a no fly list with the Russians vs a european or american airline.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
4. That makes sense with the private plane from Moscow
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:14 AM
Jun 2013

I just think Iceland hasn't committed yet vs
Equador.

Interesting.

Response to Hissyspit (Reply #3)

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
6. Or they could just let it go.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:17 AM
Jun 2013

And get their house in order.

I know, I know. Gotta make an example of him.

Response to Hissyspit (Reply #6)

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
11. It's looking like he doesn't...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:26 AM
Jun 2013

Maybe while yr waiting for justice to come a callin', you could while away some time trying to bring Bush to justice for the very real war crimes he committed?

Response to davidn3600 (Reply #13)

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
19. So we expect everyone else to abide by international law, but we don't have to?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:45 AM
Jun 2013

Is that what you are saying?

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
40. There you have it In Your Opinion
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:19 AM
Jun 2013

And the DOJ sees it the same way too, then the tiny country slam. This is just HILARIOUS, lay off the bad spy novels Cali. The fucking billions of dollars comment is just a cherry, the frothing on the cake is enough.

Response to HangOnKids (Reply #40)

Response to HangOnKids (Reply #43)

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
52. Any hopes of that...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:59 AM
Jun 2013

Went straight out the window when Snowden went from Whistle Blower to Chinese spy...He lost my support when he said he was looking out for the American people one day & then the next day he turned over classified info to the Chinese! Sorry, but that is not a "Whistle Blower" that is a traitor spy.

Curious what he is going to unveil once in Russia?

 
10. Or they could tell American nationalists to take a FFF to themselves
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:26 AM
Jun 2013

your not yet the over ruler of the world just yet

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
12. I think the realisation that the US is a toothless tiger's a bit slow to dawn on some...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:28 AM
Jun 2013

The rest of the world's been watching the decline of the US for a while and it won't be long before everyone else ignores its tantrums and demands....

Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #12)

Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #12)

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
45. Bazinga!
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:30 AM
Jun 2013

What to do, what to do. Holy shit, Hong Kong Eddie just might eat Cali's lunch. Or dog. Or breakfast.

Response to Rise Rebel Resist (Reply #10)

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
22. Our laws dont apply to Ecuador or Iceland
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:50 AM
Jun 2013

Remember what happened when Iceland found out the FBI was in their country investigating Wikileaks? They kicked their asses out and put in a formal protest against the United States.

These countries don't give a shit about our DOJ.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/342639

 
23. no I mean American nationalists
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:50 AM
Jun 2013

the language used has a potent smell to it unmistakable, what's next drones over Iceland?

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
47. Do you haz a sad that Hong Kong Eddie isn't going to get punished for the breakup?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:41 AM
Jun 2013

Tragic. You really need to post more on this subject, DU has just not heard enough of your opinion on this matter. Really. Get. On. It.

Response to HangOnKids (Reply #47)

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
50. I'm sure they have pom poms a wavin'
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:47 AM
Jun 2013

Oh no, that would be the cheerleaders of the NFL, sorry wrong country. Because nothing says beacon of freedom like the NFL.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Iceland has a newly elected center right leader. Ecuador's trade agreement with USA is up for
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:56 AM
Jun 2013

renewal in July.

He'll probably end up in Cuba. Sucks for him--the internet access there stinks!


A new life awaits!

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
32. SNOWDEN'S ULTIMATE DESTINATION IS VENEZUELA WHERE HE WILL FLY TO FROM MOSCOW WITH STOPOVER IN HAVANA
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:00 AM
Jun 2013

Alexi Mostrous ?@AlexiMostrous 3m
Interfax reporting that #Snowden's ultimate destination is Venezuela (h/t @NomDePlume9) http://www.interfax.com/news.asp

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. That sounds like a terrible final resting place. Cuba makes more sense.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:09 AM
Jun 2013

We have an extradition treaty with VZ, though they might not honor it.

We refine a lot of VZ crude--they might not be thinking this through.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
38. Declan McCullagh ‏@declanm 7m Venezuela has a 1922 extradition treaty with the US. My quick read is
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:12 AM
Jun 2013

Declan McCullagh ?@declanm

Venezuela has a 1922 extradition treaty with the US. My quick read is that it doesn't cover Snowden's alleged crimes:
http://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-ven.pdf

MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. Well, we refine a LOT of their crude.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:26 AM
Jun 2013

And there aren't a lot of other places in the immediate area that can handle their product. They still have to "buy back" from USA because the stuff isn't useable without a lot of work.


Perhaps the Chinese are going to buy more of their sour and heavy oil and refine it--they are an oil-hungry nation, after all.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
39. Well he won't get extradited
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:17 AM
Jun 2013

because of the US ignoring Venezuela's Righteous request for the Terrorist Posada extradition which pissed them off.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
7. Knowing what they did to Bradley Manning
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:17 AM
Jun 2013

...I don't blame him one bit for avoiding the US grasp. They tortured Manning.

A senior US official said HK should arrange to have Snowden extradited soonest or it could "raise questions about Hong Kong’s commitment to the rule of law."

Pot meet kettle.

Run, Snowden, run!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. Maybe Gerard Depardieu will hire him to maintain his computer and AV equipment.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:21 AM
Jun 2013

He's going to have to earn somehow--and how long is that intel he stole going to have a good shelf life?

Interesting how the Chinese played that game to give him time to leave...they didn't want him around, either.

This is right up "Russia Today" Pootie Poot's alley, though. He must be thrilled.

Frying pan to fire--ain't that grand.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
18. ITV News ‏@itvnews 14m Russian news agency Interfax: There is a ticket in Edward Snowden's name for
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:45 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-06-21/gchq-tapped-data-cables/

ITV News ?@itvnews 14m
Russian news agency Interfax: There is a ticket in Edward Snowden's name for a Moscow to Cuba flight http://itv.co/19Zg4bG

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
20. maybe Venezuela ?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:49 AM
Jun 2013

06/23 13:36 SNOWDEN'S ULTIMATE DESTINATION IS VENEZUELA WHERE HE WILL FLY TO FROM MOSCOW WITH STOPOVER IN HAVANA - SOURCE

http://www.interfax.com/

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. Because Iceland and Ecuador don't want him, and Cuba still ain't speaking to us, nor we with them?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:00 AM
Jun 2013

He probably thought Cuba was more like Hawaii than North Korea is...

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
26. Snowden will not be detained if visa is ok
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:53 AM
Jun 2013

06/23 13:40 Nobody will detain Snowden at Sheremetyevo, if his visa is alright - police

http://www.interfax.com/ , left side of page, Headlines

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
31. Russian foriegn ministry statement
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:59 AM
Jun 2013

06/23 13:51 ACCORDING TO SOME REPORTS, SNOWDEN MAY BE TRAVELLING VIA MOSCOW - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY

http://www.interfax.com/news.asp

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
34. Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1m The fact that a person flies to City X
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:05 AM
Jun 2013

Glenn Greenwald ?@ggreenwald 1m
The fact that a person flies to City X does not mean that is their intended ultimate destination

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
35. from RT:
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:05 AM
Jun 2013

RT ?@RT_com 6m
UPDATE: #Snowden to take SU150 flight to Havana tomorrow, then flies to Caracas with local airline via @ITARTASS_news http://on.rt.com/jqm8cb

https://twitter.com/RT_com

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
36. more interfax:
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:06 AM
Jun 2013

06/23 14:01 Venezuela is Snowden's ultimate destination, he will make stopovers in Moscow and Havana - source

http://www.interfax.com/news.asp
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