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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:11 AM Jun 2013

How Much Would It Cost To Store All US Phone Calls Made In A Year?

An early criticism of Snowden's leak about NSA spying activity was that the $20 million annual cost for PRISM -- whatever that turns out to be -- was simply too low to be credible.

One person who knows more about storage costs than practically anyone -- well, outside the NSA, at least -- is Brewster Kahle, who set up the Internet Archive, essentially a backup for the entire Web plus a wonderfully rich store of many other materials. He's carried out a fascinating back-of-the envelope calculation of how much it would cost annually to record every phone call made in the US and store it in the cloud:




These estimates show only $27M in capital cost, and $2M in electricity and take less than 5,000 square feet of space to store and process all US phonecalls made in a year.


The NSA seems to be spending $1.7 billion on a 100k square foot datacenter that could easily handle this and much much more.

Therefore, money and technology would not hold back such a project -- it would be held back if someone did not have the opportunity or will.


http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130621/03390823552/how-much-would-it-cost-to-store-all-us-phone-calls-made-year.shtml

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LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
1. Dunno, but I'm sure there is PLENTY of money for that
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:17 AM
Jun 2013

but no money for food stamps, Meals on Wheels, job training, medical care, housing and other things that people desperately need.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
2. i keep wondering about that.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jun 2013

and by this time -- there ought to several years worth of cost/benefit analysis available for all the $s spent.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
4. I am sure it is cheaper than the $0.10/min.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jun 2013

that it costs me to generate it. How do you establish Copyright on phone calls?

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
7. We don't listen, we transcribe and sort.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jun 2013

Voice calls are line switched, you need the metadata to index them.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
8. This is what outrages me, personally, about the NSA issue. It's giant black hole to shovel taxpayer
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jun 2013

dollars and if left unchecked it will/would never end. In fact, it will just keep rising as more contractors find it this lucrative.

And this is the issue that can grab the public in a way that our rights to privacy and association won't.

Archaic

(273 posts)
9. Once it's indexed and on tape, it becomes nearly free to have that info. Forever.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jun 2013

Once you eliminate all phone calls for takeout food, political robocalls, and calls to/from the people too rich to be indexed, you start getting that down to an even more manageable state. More intelligence applied to offload useless data, teenagers chatting, corporate conference calls about stupid projects, etc.

A little sorting here, a little filing there, and you have tiers of valued info. Some stays online, consuming space and electricity. Some shifts to bulk but accessible storage, some goes to a tape that's stored in a mine somewhere. (My company buys $90K in backup tapes a year. So I don't want to hear the "nobody uses tape anymore" baloney.)

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