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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUS officials look and sound like a bunch of bozo's
They need to keep their mouths shut until they know what the hell is going on.
Schumer and Kerry's comments make it appear we don't have a clue.
Snowden left hong kong. Ok, so what? Making official public comments that sound like threats appears desperate.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)First the US is criticized world wide for their secret surveillance of innocents... Now they look like a bunch that can't get out of their own way. And they demand respect... It is embarrassing.
premium
(3,731 posts)And ya gotta wonder why the world no longer takes us seriously?
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Honk Honk!
coldbeer
(306 posts)I just love your honk honk!
I was a forward observer in 1968/69 in Berlin. They called me F.O. The O meant OFF.
I fought with my FDR (fire direction center) because I wanted to hit a Russian
guard tower on the fence. They let me get to about 100M. I was watching the
guard. He had to be younger than me and I was twenty. I felt like him.
WTF I was drafted and he was conscripted? and it would have been so much
fun over a beer! I wish I could meet that evil commie today.
I was there. Wondering why were we fighting over there. I just got a letter from
my mother that one of my best frieds (a medic and a concience (sp) objecter was
killed on his first day of combat. France and Shell Oil went over ther five years
before.
treestar
(82,383 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Steam in private, settle accounts later, but just STFU. Snowden will never set foot in the US and there's not diddly they can do about it.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)they should just forget Snowden. He's got the documents he's got and I'm sure he has made arrangements for their custody if he is caught. I know this is unthinkable, seeing as how he has given the empire a big black eye and we can't have that, but I think they need to cut their losses. Chasing a kid around the world, giving countries that don't like us a golden oportunity to thumb their noses at us in front of the world media, the whole David vs Goliath gestalt...all make us look rather powerless and ineffective. Stop chasing Snowden and worry about fixing things at home. They are giving him a lot of power right now by treating him like USA enemy #1.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)on the political front, if they don't do something the right will have a hay day over this.
Nay
(12,051 posts)confirming everything Snowden says. The RWers will have a hey day over it, sure, but nothing they can say or do (other than shutting up and being mature) will stop that.
they look clueless. And like they support the secret NSA probes.
Let them show how clueless they are. Maybe some people will wake up when they see this kind of stupidity.
cali
(114,904 posts)and don't forget Graham or Feinstein in your list of those looking like bozos.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)BrainDrain
(244 posts)sigh.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)To convince you that they are on it and that he is a traitor that you should hate.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)But it is not for them, but the ones that don't.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)I must have a smidgen of hope most realize the gvt is blowing smoke and in the process making a mockery out of us to the world.
What are they going to do if Russia or China or Hong Kong or Ecuador don't comply? What!? It's the next logical question to ask oneself, IMHO.
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)that our government can mobilize such resources for one man but can't do anything about solving problems in our country.
Nay
(12,051 posts)who has called them out, but we can't get an infrastructure program/energy initiative/single-payer HC even on the table for discussion? And we have to listen to the inane blustering about Snowden from what should be mature and contemplative leaders?
All of us unwashed peasants just figured out how important we are in the scheme of things. Not very. Way to go, Democrats. The disillusion is probably complete.
Autumn
(45,064 posts)which they are. Snowden seems to have had his ducks in a row on this traveling, so far.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... so much for all of their surveillance being able to stop "over 50 terrorist attacks" if they can't even track a drop-out security-geek ....
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)I'm not too much worried about what our 'enemies' might find out, because our system is fucked up anyway, and any payoff will get any info from this gov't. As a person who spent four years active back to pre-Viet days, many places were restricted to me from even walking nearby! For years the fucking corporations are calling the shots for our gov't and we're in shock? Give me a break.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)http://www.businessinsider.com/what-snowden-secretly-wrote-online-2013-6
Degrees don't mean anything in certain branches of tech world. NSA and Silicon Valley look for people who can do. If anything, not having learned it in school is a big plus because it shows your skills aren't limited by what you were taught. This whole fuss about how did he get in with just a GED is a diversion smokescreen. There are tons of linguists and analysts floating around in the intelligence world without degrees.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)'first unidentified' company must have seen something of merit for him to be hired by a company dealing with classified information. So it would be interesting to get this explanation. I do remember while being part of the Navy, if I wanted to be handling 'classified info or equipment, I had to submit to a questionnaire put out by the FBI. Shouldn't we know how much of a standard is being carried out?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I hope they don't use this as an excuse to milk the taxpayers for more lie-detectors and expensive background investigations.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)What's Putin doing? That's what he's doing!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)What me worry?