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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:54 AM Jun 2013

US officials look and sound like a bunch of bozo's

They need to keep their mouths shut until they know what the hell is going on.

Schumer and Kerry's comments make it appear we don't have a clue.

Snowden left hong kong. Ok, so what? Making official public comments that sound like threats appears desperate.

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US officials look and sound like a bunch of bozo's (Original Post) boston bean Jun 2013 OP
What do you expect from bozos? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #1
A bit better than this, that's for sure. boston bean Jun 2013 #2
This what our govt is beginning to look like to the world. premium Jun 2013 #32
lmao!!! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #3
"What you see is what you get." nt bemildred Jun 2013 #4
Bozo's what? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #5
Heh heh heh alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #6
that's my point!!! coldbeer Jun 2013 #22
plurals are made without apostrophes treestar Jun 2013 #7
They should just recognize they've lost. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8
Personally, I Think RobinA Jun 2013 #9
True but, progressoid Jun 2013 #11
No matter what they do, they will (and do) look stupid and inept, in addition to all but Nay Jun 2013 #30
yep marions ghost Jun 2013 #17
You got that right. cali Jun 2013 #10
I can't get over how they've lost it. It IS embarrassing and unbecoming n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #12
"OMG Snowden arrives in Togo, U.S. suspects jellyfish of collusion....." BrainDrain Jun 2013 #13
Those comments are for you. zeemike Jun 2013 #14
Yeah and in the process they look like they can't fight their way out of a paper bag. boston bean Jun 2013 #15
True enough if you have critical thinking skills. zeemike Jun 2013 #18
I'm agreeing. boston bean Jun 2013 #19
So sad Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #16
Well, exactly. The US has all the time and money in the world to chase down one guy Nay Jun 2013 #31
Well if they don't bluster they think they look weak and impotent. Autumn Jun 2013 #20
Yep, we are now engaged in an international "Where's Waldo" trying to find him ... Myrina Jun 2013 #21
I would like to know how he got in that position without much of a background. dmosh42 Jun 2013 #23
He had a good background. There are tons like him Catherina Jun 2013 #24
Yes, I agree with your basic premise about not having to have a degree, but the .... dmosh42 Jun 2013 #25
It will be interesting to find out Catherina Jun 2013 #29
Keystone cop syndrome geckosfeet Jun 2013 #26
+1! Now they're wailing at China and Russia as if they have any right to tell them what to do. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #27
I guess this means Bozo is spying on us. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #28

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
2. A bit better than this, that's for sure.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:00 AM
Jun 2013

First the US is criticized world wide for their secret surveillance of innocents... Now they look like a bunch that can't get out of their own way. And they demand respect... It is embarrassing.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
32. This what our govt is beginning to look like to the world.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jun 2013


And ya gotta wonder why the world no longer takes us seriously?

coldbeer

(306 posts)
22. that's my point!!!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jun 2013

I just love your honk honk!

I was a forward observer in 1968/69 in Berlin. They called me F.O. The O meant OFF.
I fought with my FDR (fire direction center) because I wanted to hit a Russian
guard tower on the fence. They let me get to about 100M. I was watching the
guard. He had to be younger than me and I was twenty. I felt like him.

WTF I was drafted and he was conscripted? and it would have been so much
fun over a beer! I wish I could meet that evil commie today.



I was there. Wondering why were we fighting over there. I just got a letter from
my mother that one of my best frieds (a medic and a concience (sp) objecter was
killed on his first day of combat. France and Shell Oil went over ther five years
before.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. They should just recognize they've lost.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:35 AM
Jun 2013

Steam in private, settle accounts later, but just STFU. Snowden will never set foot in the US and there's not diddly they can do about it.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
9. Personally, I Think
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jun 2013

they should just forget Snowden. He's got the documents he's got and I'm sure he has made arrangements for their custody if he is caught. I know this is unthinkable, seeing as how he has given the empire a big black eye and we can't have that, but I think they need to cut their losses. Chasing a kid around the world, giving countries that don't like us a golden oportunity to thumb their noses at us in front of the world media, the whole David vs Goliath gestalt...all make us look rather powerless and ineffective. Stop chasing Snowden and worry about fixing things at home. They are giving him a lot of power right now by treating him like USA enemy #1.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
11. True but,
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:42 AM
Jun 2013

on the political front, if they don't do something the right will have a hay day over this.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
30. No matter what they do, they will (and do) look stupid and inept, in addition to all but
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jun 2013

confirming everything Snowden says. The RWers will have a hey day over it, sure, but nothing they can say or do (other than shutting up and being mature) will stop that.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
17. yep
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:10 AM
Jun 2013

they look clueless. And like they support the secret NSA probes.

Let them show how clueless they are. Maybe some people will wake up when they see this kind of stupidity.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. You got that right.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:38 AM
Jun 2013

and don't forget Graham or Feinstein in your list of those looking like bozos.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. Those comments are for you.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:59 AM
Jun 2013

To convince you that they are on it and that he is a traitor that you should hate.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
19. I'm agreeing.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:16 AM
Jun 2013

I must have a smidgen of hope most realize the gvt is blowing smoke and in the process making a mockery out of us to the world.

What are they going to do if Russia or China or Hong Kong or Ecuador don't comply? What!? It's the next logical question to ask oneself, IMHO.

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
16. So sad
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:09 AM
Jun 2013

that our government can mobilize such resources for one man but can't do anything about solving problems in our country.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
31. Well, exactly. The US has all the time and money in the world to chase down one guy
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jun 2013

who has called them out, but we can't get an infrastructure program/energy initiative/single-payer HC even on the table for discussion? And we have to listen to the inane blustering about Snowden from what should be mature and contemplative leaders?

All of us unwashed peasants just figured out how important we are in the scheme of things. Not very. Way to go, Democrats. The disillusion is probably complete.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
20. Well if they don't bluster they think they look weak and impotent.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jun 2013

which they are. Snowden seems to have had his ducks in a row on this traveling, so far.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
21. Yep, we are now engaged in an international "Where's Waldo" trying to find him ...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jun 2013

... so much for all of their surveillance being able to stop "over 50 terrorist attacks" if they can't even track a drop-out security-geek ....

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
23. I would like to know how he got in that position without much of a background.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:11 AM
Jun 2013

I'm not too much worried about what our 'enemies' might find out, because our system is fucked up anyway, and any payoff will get any info from this gov't. As a person who spent four years active back to pre-Viet days, many places were restricted to me from even walking nearby! For years the fucking corporations are calling the shots for our gov't and we're in shock? Give me a break.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
24. He had a good background. There are tons like him
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:35 AM
Jun 2013
According to sources briefed on the matter, Snowden was employed by an unidentified classified agency in Washington from 2005 to mid-2006, by the CIA from 2006 to 2009, when he primarily worked overseas, and by Dell Inc from 2009 to 2013, when he worked in the United States and Japan as an NSA contractor.

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-snowden-secretly-wrote-online-2013-6


Degrees don't mean anything in certain branches of tech world. NSA and Silicon Valley look for people who can do. If anything, not having learned it in school is a big plus because it shows your skills aren't limited by what you were taught. This whole fuss about how did he get in with just a GED is a diversion smokescreen. There are tons of linguists and analysts floating around in the intelligence world without degrees.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
25. Yes, I agree with your basic premise about not having to have a degree, but the ....
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jun 2013

'first unidentified' company must have seen something of merit for him to be hired by a company dealing with classified information. So it would be interesting to get this explanation. I do remember while being part of the Navy, if I wanted to be handling 'classified info or equipment, I had to submit to a questionnaire put out by the FBI. Shouldn't we know how much of a standard is being carried out?

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
29. It will be interesting to find out
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

I hope they don't use this as an excuse to milk the taxpayers for more lie-detectors and expensive background investigations.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
27. +1! Now they're wailing at China and Russia as if they have any right to tell them what to do.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jun 2013

What's Putin doing? That's what he's doing!

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