What prevents BoozAllen from selling info to corporations like Monsanto or to health insurers ?

[snagglepuss]

How difficult would it be for spying companies to compile files on people who oppose Monsanto or other corporations?

[Recursion]

1. The laws Snowden broke

As well as the desire to keep getting contracts.

[snagglepuss]

3. What evidence do we have that there is any effective oversight of these companies?

[Recursion]

6. Depends on what "effective oversight" means -- Snowden had to feign an illness ...

... to his government supervisor. At the personnel level, the supervision in my experience is pretty good (though I was on the Navy shipyard side of things). At the contract level, well, government contracting is government contracting, so it should be a lot better.

[Puzzledtraveller]

2. nothing

they probably do, and others like them.

[Poll_Blind]

4. Little or nothing. ZerOversight. nt

PB

[siligut]

5. Individuals who work for the agency may be doing just that

[randome]

7. What prevents an NSA employee from doing the same as Snowden did?

Snowden, however, was a Systems Administrator, not an Intelligence Analyst. He did not have the access he claims as evidenced by the fact that the only things he was able to steal -that we know of- were internal NSA documents and nothing that buttresses his claim of the NSA spying 24/7 on Americans.

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[snagglepuss]

9. I'm not talking about Snowden. I'm interested knowing whether BoozAllen can flag communications

that mention terms like Koch, climate change, BigOil, Big Pharma, Monsanto on the behest of those corporations? Who is looking at he information they are compiling?

[randome]

11. I doubt any Booz Allen contractor was an Intelligence Analyst.

If they were, that would be a cause for concern. But so far as we can tell, Booz Allen only does support work for the NSA. None of the contractors have the access of an Intelligence Analyst to flag anything.

That's just my guess, of course.

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[G_j]

15. does this help?

sinesses must build collaboration into their normal operations...”17
Booz Allen employee connections to the Federal Intelligence and military agencies
Booz Allen employs some 1000 former military and intelligence officers,18 a number of whom have worked in intelligence agencies at the highest levels. They include:
1. Mike McConnell, a former director of the National Security Agency (Senior Vice President)
2. James Woolsey, a former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (Vice President)
3. Dale Watson, a former Executive Assistant Director of the FBI (Principal)
4. Joan Dempsey, former Executive Director of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Deputy Director of the CIA, and 17-year top official at the Department of Defense (Vice President)
5. Richard Wilhelm, former high-ranking official at the NSA, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and other intelligence posts (Vice President)
6. Dr. Dov Zakheim, former Under Secretary of Defense (Vice President)

http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/safefree/boozallen20060914.pdf

[randome]

17. So they hired some former Intelligence Analysts.

That doesn't mean a contractor, even a former NSA employee, can get other personnel to give him access to the daily flow of information. I don't know how the NSA Analysts actually work but I'm betting there are at least two or three levels that require sign-off before anything can happen.

The bureaucracy is complex because it makes it difficult -if nigh impossible- for anyone to walk in and start subverting all the checks and balances.

All that Snowden was able to get were internal office documents. That's a cause for concern but there is nothing so far to indicate that a contractor can get access to basically do his or her own spying on someone.

That would require far too many other points of coordination. That's my guess, anyways. Having worked in the Social Security Administration at one time, I know how complex the bureaucracy can get.

Everything gets reviewed.

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[G_j]

8. Monsanto has now hired Blackwater

to infiltrate and work against protesters and activists.

just sayin'

[avaistheone1]

12. Absolutely chilling.

[SamKnause]

10. Booz Allen

Nothing.

[G_j]

13. From the ACLU

Booz Allen takes a lead in lobbying for increased information sharing

In addition to Federal government contracts, Booz Allen has a substantial private consulting practice. But even its staple of private clients does not seem to have made the firm shy about calling for increased government instrusion, including regulation, if necessary, to increase the information-collecting and surveillance powers of the government.

Booz Allen has taken a lead in advocating for increased information sharing. Booz Allen employees have advocated for increasing and streamlining the sharing of information among Federal agencies, among private corporations, and between private corporations and Federal agencies.

In 2004, Richard Wilhelm, Vice President at Booz Allen, represented the firm at the RSA Conference on information security. He gave a speech at the conference advocating for increased information sharing.16 Wilhelm drew on his experience at the CIA, the NSA and “a few other organizations of the Intelligence Community” to declare a need for increased information sharing, particularly between private corporations and the Federal government. According to Wilhelm, such sharing is vital to homeland security, and is in everyone’s interest. Wilhelm made a case that CEOs and their corporations need to take on roles similar to government, and treat information they have as possible intelligence. Wilhelm states, “we cannot view national security as solely a government responsibility... We need to make a new business case that private companies can prevent terrorism by sharing more information more widely.” Wilhelm suggests that corporations could be induced to share information through “incentives, cooperative arrangements, and – possibly – regulations.” Because of the new nature of the terrorist threat, according to Wilhelm, “it’s no longer effective to distribute information on a ‘need-to-know’ basis...” Instead, the network of information sharing organizations should be large and expandable.


http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/safefree/boozallen20060914.pdf

[bemildred]

14. Nothing. nt

[malaise]

16. What prevents any of them from selling to credit card criminals

any corporation or any criminal group?

[ret5hd]

18. I can answer the CC criminals/criminal group part:

When you are already working for the biggest baddest mafia around (the corp/gov conglomerate)
why would you mess around with some skeezy two bit CC fraud dumpling?

[railsback]

19. Nothing prevents them

Nothing prevents hundreds of thousands of system administrators selling your shit, either. But apparently we're supposed to trust them, and not the NSA because the NSA has to jump through hoops.

[kentuck]

20. Or the U.A.E.?

Oh! They did already?