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prosecution opening statement - powerful (Original Post) arely staircase Jun 2013 OP
this prosecutor is outstanding arely staircase Jun 2013 #1
Wow The Blue Flower Jun 2013 #2
yes it sounds like they have the evidence this cop wannabe lied his ass off arely staircase Jun 2013 #7
I watched the trial this morning..... chillfactor Jun 2013 #3
yeah, he has to be medicated to sit through that arely staircase Jun 2013 #4
Just got done listening BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #5
this man is a REAL lawyer arely staircase Jun 2013 #8
Well done. woolldog Jun 2013 #6
i wonder is z will take the stand arely staircase Jun 2013 #9
Would love to see him take the stand, but I doubt it. woolldog Jun 2013 #15
Particularly in contrast to the ponderous, tedious, and ENDLESS defense opening ... 11 Bravo Jun 2013 #10
Any more knock knock jokes? Lucinda Jun 2013 #11
Agreed! AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #13
Thanks! I started following this earlier but missed his opening remarks Lucinda Jun 2013 #12
any word on the time gap drhobo Jun 2013 #14
Martin was killed a long way from Z's car yardwork Jun 2013 #16
thanks drhobo Jun 2013 #19
The prosecution strategy is predictable. Vattel Jun 2013 #17
fucking punks, these assholes always get away arely staircase Jun 2013 #18
Yes, it is clear that Zimmerman suspected Martin Vattel Jun 2013 #24
Mmmmm. I don't think there's evidence for what you say yardwork Jun 2013 #21
What did I say that was false? Vattel Jun 2013 #22
Photos of Zimmerman at arrest show a clean back yardwork Jun 2013 #23
You haven't got your facts straight. Vattel Jun 2013 #25
I've seen photos of Zimmerman at arrest yardwork Jun 2013 #27
The defense attorney's mouth just hangs open at the end KurtNYC Jun 2013 #20
The was awesome. bravenak Jun 2013 #26

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
7. yes it sounds like they have the evidence this cop wannabe lied his ass off
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jun 2013

in the aftermath. and you are right, this prosecutor has the goods and is gonna stick it to this racist murderer.

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
3. I watched the trial this morning.....
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jun 2013

the defense lawyer kept walking around in circles and zimmerman looked like he was asleep most of the time...he must be heavily medicated.....

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
5. Just got done listening
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jun 2013

before I saw your post.

The prosecutor giving the opening statement is a true trial lawyer. That's all I can say. As if performing in a stage play, his presentation masterfully painted the graphical imagery of the events of 1 1/2 years ago.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
15. Would love to see him take the stand, but I doubt it.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jun 2013

And you're right, this prosecutor would eat him for lunch.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
10. Particularly in contrast to the ponderous, tedious, and ENDLESS defense opening ...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jun 2013

(which has currently been dragging on for 2 3/4 hours and counting).

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
13. Agreed!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jun 2013

Even Zimmerman was falling asleep. Also, it can't be good that the defense seems to be getting into scuffles with the judge.

 

drhobo

(74 posts)
14. any word on the time gap
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jun 2013

I didn't get to listen. Did they address the several minute gap between zimmerman losing sight of martin during the non emergency call and the gunshot? This is the one bit I have not seen well addressed. We know from the police calls there were several minutes, and the home where Martin was staying was only 400 feet away. Did he give a reason why martin stayed near zimmermans car?

 

drhobo

(74 posts)
19. thanks
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jun 2013

Thanks for clarifying, for some season I thought it was only like two houses down from where the car was parked. That would explain why I never heard it addressed!

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
17. The prosecution strategy is predictable.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jun 2013

They will use inconsistencies in Zimmerman's statements (and things that might seem inconsistent) to support their contention that Zimmerman lied. And those alleged lies will be offered as proof that Zimmerman did not kill Martin in self-defense. The minor inconsistencies one would expect even if Zimmerman were innocent will be milked for everything they can get out of them. That is the best they can do because it is pretty clear that Zimmerman was being straddled by Martin, yelling for help, and getting beat up. Two eye witnesses to the struggle, Zimmerman's injuries, Martin's lack of injuries not related to being shot, and the grass all over Zimmerman's back make that hard to deny. And there are no eye witnesses that can contradict Zimmerman's claim that Martin assaulted him and not vice-versa. The prosecution has already demonstrated that it is ethically challenged by trying to get junk science into the proceedings; so I expect they will do whatever they can to distort the fact that there is loads of reasonable doubt. My guess is that they hope the jury will at least go for some sort of a compromise and convict Zimmerman of manslaughter.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
18. fucking punks, these assholes always get away
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jun 2013

that mind set will do z in. as the brilliant prosecutor pointed out. z killed martin "not because he had to...but because he wanted to."

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
24. Yes, it is clear that Zimmerman suspected Martin
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jun 2013

of being in the neighborhood to commit a crime. Martin was just walking home. However, as I am sure you know, there is a long way to go from Zimmerman's suspicions about Martin to the conclusion that he didn't kill in self-defense. He expressed his feelings about criminals who get away when he called them fucking punks and assholes. I don't see how that makes him a bad guy.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
21. Mmmmm. I don't think there's evidence for what you say
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jun 2013

Your version of events is contradicted by the evidence I've read.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
23. Photos of Zimmerman at arrest show a clean back
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jun 2013

No serious injuries to Zimmerman. The only one seriously injured was Trayvon, who was shot dead. Zimmerman looked clean at arrest. Also, no injuries to either of their hands, indicating no struggle. No evidence of a fight. Not clear at all who was on top when. Conflicting eyewitnesses.

Looks like cold blooded murder to me.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
25. You haven't got your facts straight.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jun 2013

One police officer described Zimmerman's back as having grass on it. Everyone concedes that Zimmerman had a bloody and swollen nose and cuts on the back of his head. I never said that Zimmerman's injuries were serious. There are only two eyewitnesses who saw Zimmerman during the altercation with Martin. Both gave testimony that places Zimmerman on the ground. One described a struggle.


yardwork

(61,588 posts)
27. I've seen photos of Zimmerman at arrest
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jun 2013

His back looks totally clean. If he had been fighting for his life he would have looked much worse.

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