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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat should be done about the current surveillance apparatus that is now in place?
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It should be kept the same except possibly with only a few minor tweeks to the system | |
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It should be completely and totally dismantled from top to bottom | |
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It should be reformed in major ways under the direction of a committee comprised of both civil liberarians and security experts | |
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What should be done about the current surveillance apparatus that is now in place? (Original Post)
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
OP
They should get better security so they can keep doing things we don't want without us knowing
The Straight Story
Jun 2013
#7
Octafish
(55,745 posts)1. Turn it on the crooks instead of the American people.
What Frank Church said.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)2. there doesn't seem to be many Frank Church's around these days
Octafish
(55,745 posts)6. Fewer on DU than I'd expected, too.
Talking about the NSA spy power in 1976:
That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesnt matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.
I dont want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.
- Sen. Frank Church, (D-Idaho and a combat veteran of World War II)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3510598
That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesnt matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.
I dont want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.
- Sen. Frank Church, (D-Idaho and a combat veteran of World War II)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3510598
snooper2
(30,151 posts)3. I almost took classes to become a liberarian
But they said I was born in the wrong month
railsback
(1,881 posts)4. Lets just turn it off
and the next time a suspect legally under surveillance makes an sudden phone call to a number not logged anywhere, stating that he'll be there in five minutes to carry out whatever mayhem he was planning, and the NSA has to go to court to prove the owner of that unknown number isn't going to have his/her freedoms trampled on, which, of course, will be too late, we'll just blame the government for not doing its job. Man, what a simple life!
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)5. kick for more results?
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)7. They should get better security so they can keep doing things we don't want without us knowing
Cause lord knows we don't like transparency.