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Chattanooga Times Free Press
Kate Harrison
June 23, 2013
(a few excerpts)
For many people in Grundy County, Tenn., the health care strategy is to bite the bullet. Learn to live with pain and sickness. There just isn't a more realistic option, they say.
Grundy is the unhealthiest among Tennessee's 95 counties, according to a national survey released this year.
The chief obstacle is income. Rural Americans typically have lower incomes than those in urban settings, with a declining population and the loss of key rural industries. After the coal mines shut down in Grundy in the '80s, local industry never really recovered. Median household income in the county is $25,600. The unemployment rate is 9.6 percent.
They show a lot of the same negative health trends seen in inner-city areas. But rural residents don't have the same proximity and level of access to social services.
(more at the link)
http://timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jun/23/6-32-a1-in-rural-us-learning-to-live-with-pain/?local
This is a very good article on the statistics in a rural county that is very close to my heart. People shouldn't have to live this way anywhere in the world.
Romulus Quirinus
(524 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)antigone382
(3,682 posts)I regret that I cannot spend today monitoring this thread and responding to comments, so I will just have to let this one sink or swim on its own. I appreciate those who have already taken an interest.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)No, no one should have to live like this. All the excuses in the world can't justify it.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)to explain to all of us that their poverty is their own fault because they voted for the "wrong" person so they deserve what they get.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I certainly did not mean to imply that it's their "fault", but rather that they have the power to change things with their votes.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)change things if K-Street disappeared and there was an overhaul of campaign financing. imho
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The real problem is the propaganda these folks will only hear. They will be told all their problems are due to those liburul politicians in Washington who want to give their tax dollars to illegals. And that horrible Obama and his soculist health care that keeps them from getting what they surely deserve. And they will continue to vote R, and never stop to consider why doing so never seems to result in anything better for them..
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Could it possibly be that the Democrats have all but abandoned rural areas and have written them off as "unwinnable"? Or maybe it's s the derision shown to them by the neo-left. I know that that doesn't t compute in binary world so blaming the victim is a good way to go.
(Computer went down and I'm typing ona Kindle.)
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The Dem party here in Georgia basically sits in Atlanta and does nothing. The Dem party in Texas gave up on last year's Senate election and let a complete nutjob (Ted Cruz) waltz in without putting the slightest pressure on him.
Unfortunately, it is a big big task. I think Dean had the right idea, but unfortunately he was ousted by those who want to concentrate resources in the hands of a few and fight out a few major pitched battles, rather than build up from the bottom everywhere.
And the removal of left-leaning voices on radio and TV leaves folks with nothing but 24/7 right wing propaganda.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 25, 2013, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)
is with the Democratic party and not with the voters. I live around rural areas and voter registration here is majority Democrat. Neither state nor fed-level will.put ANY money or effort here. These people aren't t stupid and if only one party shows up chances are they willncontinue to vote for the devil they know.
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ETA: Even with s majority Dem registration we can't get Demean elected. The point being that given a little love this area could be turned.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Out in the boondocks, there ARE liberals, but so many people are traditionalist and focused in their daily lives in a very small cycle of everyday life. And isolated. Town boards are notorious for being populated with small time crooks in a good old boy network. There is little to no useful information available publicizing their treachery.
The social/cultural/intellectual input is cable teevee and either church or the local little dive bar. Also, front porches of subsidized housing and Wal-Mart.
To get the liberal message across takes, basically, an entire re-education, remedial civics 101 AND ongoing practical exercises in critical thinking.
I think the best way to help people understand is to develop friendships based on trust and work, and to share information in those contexts.
Just speculating based on living out in the boonies of Western NY for the last 15 years.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)And the Democrats did not abandon it. It was a poor, rural district bigger than the state of New Jersey. It was one of those Blue Dog districts that flipped in 2010.
We definitely did not abandon the area, but there were a lot of obstacles to overcome. The hardest one was being on the same ticket as Obama in the district. They bought into the war on coal propaganda big time.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)although the 2500-1600 vote for Mittwit wasn't nearly as bad as in some other rural counties, which went up to 4 or even 5 to 1.
http://www.tn.gov/sos/election/results/2012-11/USPresidentCountyTotals.pdf
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)But aren't their ministers supposed to be looking out for them? Why tell them to vote (R) when all it gets them is the kind of suffering described in the article?
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)not for their earthly welfare.
(Also sarcasm)
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)"Don't worry -- you'll be pain-free with a mouth full of sparkling teeth when Jeeeeesus and the Looooord call you home."
sunwyn
(494 posts)And I have been living with a mouth full of rotten teeth and, in some cases only roots, of teeth. After a while, you no longer remember what it means to be pain free.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Melinda
(5,465 posts)I looked for a provider in your county, but found none. The above link shows the locations of Federally Qualified Rural Health Care provider clinics in all states. These providers are all across the US, and:
HRSA health centers care for you, even if you have no health insurance. You pay what you can afford, based on your income. Health centers provide
checkups when you're well
treatment when you're sick
complete care when you're pregnant
immunizations and checkups for your children
dental care and prescription drugs for your family
mental health and substance abuse care if you need it
Plug Ohio in the search box at the link and hopefully you'll find a provider close to you. Additionally, you may qualify for FREE treatment, depending on your income, and even if you have income, these providers work on a sliding scale and will set up payment plans, regardless of credit history, etc.
I hurt for you, sunwyn, and I am so sorry, so deeply sorry that you are suffering like this. I hope this info helps.
moondust
(19,958 posts)Small rural towns used to be alive with farm families and entrepreneurs and sometimes factories that employed quite a few from surrounding communities at good wages. Then corporations and Wall Street got control of many of those factories and moved them to more urban areas where the excess labor supply tended to suppress wages and thus increase profitability. Family farming became more difficult as corporate farming grew; many family farmers had to sell out, similar to small businesses unable to survive in an increasingly corporate environment. Rural areas began to decay as their economies moved to the cities. Of course corporations then realized they could boost their profitability even more by moving their jobs from the U.S. cities to cheap labor markets overseas. And thus the cities began to decay.
Unfortunately, too many residents of rural areas continue to vote again and again for the politicians largely responsible for the corporate-friendly policies that have led to the decay of rural areas.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Before WalMart came in and started sucking all the money out of small town America,
it was possible to make a decent, secure living by owning a small store on Main Street.
The money spent in these locally owned businesses stayed in those towns,
and was re-spent many times among the local residents.
Back in the 50s & 60s, there were laws and Fair Competition Regulations that prevented large, out-of-state corporations from coming to small towns and undercutting the local business owners.
We could have that again,
IF we had a political party that represented the Working/Middle Class.
I didn't know about the Fair Competition regulations. Maybe that is a possibility worth looking into.
I do, however, remember the "Wal-Mart killing off Main Street" scenario. Ugh.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...that was used in the 50s and 60s.
It prevented a large corporations from using their size as an unfair business advantage over local businesses.
Even bigger cities in the 50s and 60s were dominated by locally owned businesses.
I grew up in New Orleans, and there were Chain Stores like Sears & Roebuck, Woolworth's,
Western Auto, A&P,.....
but there were regulatory mechanisms that kept the Playing Field level for the local merchants.
That all went away in the late 70s - 80s,
and so did the locally owned businesses on Canal Street.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)but there are no WalMarts in Grundy County.There are 3 Piggly Wiggly stores and 3 Dollar Stores in the entire county.
If Grundy County is so poor that even Walmart overlooks it,
THAT is POOR.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)It is the mark of the county's distress, but it contains the seeds of Grundy's redemption.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)No such thing as a progressive in Wall St or one is only as liberal as their most conservative investment.
Actions do speak louder than words and the actions of every investor are plainly evident in face of virtually every woe we face.
It will only end when the stench of death lays heavier in the air than the perfume of profit. Sadly for many now, they are one and the same.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)in Grundy County.The ones that are willing to commute to Nashville or Chattanooga daily do alright,but the ones that refuse or can't leave the mountain don't do nearly as well.
I ride ATV's in Grundy County and the biggest business I see is people picking up big creek rock to sell to people in the city to line their driveways and such with.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)I have never seen anyplace in America where medical care is so out of reach for the majority of people.
I have met so many, young and old alike, who think I am crazy for suggesting they go to the Dr.
This is not the country that I was raised in...
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)We will fund the military-industrial complex. Period. Healthcare, education and infrastructure can go eff themselves.
That is the stark reality. We as a people have allowed it. Individuals like DUers don't agree. But as the entire American population, we've let the corporations bleed us dry. I don't see it changing any time soon.