Twitter feud between Joy Reid and Glenn Greenwald, challenge issed to Greenwald

[flamingdem]

This is messy because it's from various streams but the upshot is Greenwald said
(implied at some point or said) that Joy Reid is an Obama Operative and she wrote
to him with a challenge to appear on Now with Alex to say it to her face.

LOL Joy is a fearless

@ggreenwald how about @NowWithAlex on Wednesday? You can even call me an Obama operative on TV!

This seems to be his answer -- or the answer of a follower not sure

@TheReidReport @ggreenwald @NowWithAlex evr1 already knows youre an obama operative who cares if its on some irrelevant low rated msnbc show


Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 1h

@Fedup_Mom @ErikWemple also doesn't answer my question: was Snowden honest with him about having documents in Feb? Just questions.


11:50 AM - 25 Jun 13 · Details
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Reply to @TheReidReport @Fedup_Mom @ErikWemple

@TheReidReport @erikwemple I don't understand this almost cult like protection of GG by journalists. Aren't you supposed to ask questions?!


@TheReidReport @erikwemple Kristin Powers characterized your questions as crazy? Really?! So much for peer respect!

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Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 24 Jun

Chinese paper: Snowden took the Booz Allen job in order to leak http://bit.ly/1aIfFt9 / finally the answer to the Q I asked @ggreenwald

Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 21h

Wonder if @ggreenwald will address the revelation that Ed Snowden DID take the Booz Allen job in order to leak. Tick tock... #inners
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Glenn Greenwald Glenn GreenwaldVerified account ?@ggreenwald

@TheReidReport You mean like this?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/24/glenn-greenwald-pushes-back-hard-on-latest-edward-snowden-revelations/ … - and this: http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/24/columnist-says-he-did-not-aid-or-abet-nsa-leaker/ …?


CNN
Columnist says he did not aid or abet NSA leaker

The Guardian newspaper columnist Glenn Greenwald was one of the two reporters who broke the story of former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden exposing details of U.S. surveillance...

Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 21h

@ggreenwald where was the transparency and disclosure in your initial story, Glenn? Seems you have your own way of classifying info.

Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 21h

@ggreenwald how about @NowWithAlex on Wednesday? You can even call me an Obama operative on TV!

@TheReidReport @ggreenwald @NowWithAlex evr1 already knows youre an obama operative who cares if its on some irrelevant low rated msnbc show

glenn at Cato Institute hmm

[quinnox]

1. I wish I knew who "Joy Reid" was, but whatever

[flamingdem]

5. MSNBC host and commentator nt

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

6. Here she is....you may have seen her on MSNBC...

[quinnox]

9. nope

Never heard of her. But if she is on MSNBC, that explains it. I don't watch that channel. If I do watch cable news, then it is CNN. But I hardly watch cable news at all these days anyway.

[Whisp]

22. she's is much better than most at msnbc. she is smart and knows her shit. n/t

[quinnox]

31. she is pretty, I'll admit that

[DURHAM D]

39. So a little sexism is all you got...?

[quinnox]

43. oh gosh

there is nothing wrong with saying a woman is pretty. What, you want me to lie, and say she is ugly or something? She is a looker, and its harmless for me to say so.

[flamingdem]

44. I applaud your admiration for Joy's beauty

That's not sexist!

I used to comment on Ben LaBolt's cuteness without getting flak

[quinnox]

46. thank you, I agree

Jeez, these days to some it seems like a crime to comment if someone finds another person attractive.

[idwiyo]

79. I think she is pretty. Is that a crime?

[calimary]

83. It isn't about pretty, quinnox my friend.

She's brilliant, quick-witted, well-informed, and charming, and yes, farther down the list I'd add "...and she photographs well." I realize that's practically the ONLY standard that's important anymore, but for the appearance-obsessed, she does have that and WAY MORE. Unfortunately, it's TV so you can't be ugly and succeed (at least in your face. Your VIEWS are a separate matter entirely).

I wish while MSNBC was handing out new shows to people, they'd give her one. I saw her guest-hosting one time, and also remembered seeing Karen Finney guest-hosting. Karen was pretty good, alright, but Joy Reid was head and shoulders above her.

[NOVA_Dem]

23. She is a former Obama Press Aide that works for MSNBC. n/t

[TheDebbieDee]

54. I never knew she was an Obama press aide. I'd never seen her until

she started showing up on Chris Matthews show a couple of years ago. I think she is the bee's knees and respect her opinions a great deal............

[nadinbrzezinski]

59. That explains quite a bit

[MNBrewer]

72. Former?

Looks like she still is.

[randome]

27. Yeah, in general you're better off sticking to online sources for news.

Other than the Daily Show and the Colbert Report.

[hr]
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[quinnox]

33. I agree

Online is "where its at" these days, to use an old fashioned saying

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

29. A *BRILLIANT* MSNBC host and commentator!!!

[MirrorAshes]

36. She really is! n/t

[warrior1]

2. Go Joy

[JI7]

3. greenwald seems to have lost control of the situation

[baldguy]

13. Expect him to start insulting the real journalists who ask him questions.

[Whisp]

24. oh my. I think we know what that can be like here on DU.

[Whisp]

42. Greenwad might put them all on ignore!

and only talk to the Fuck Ron Pauls.

[Fawke Em]

109. Who are these "real" journalists?

I'm a former journalist - I even have the Communications degree - and I find Greenwald a far better journalist than these talking faces on TV.

[DJ13]

4. meow

[randome]

7. That sums it up.

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[flamingdem]

10. Make your bets!

[randome]

21. Is it racist to root for the Dark One over the Snowy One?

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[flamingdem]

25. Make yer bets this is not a PC fight

this is bare hands and below the belt

* we could only hope

[azurnoir]

71. well to put in that manner

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is it homophobic or antisemitic of Reid to "blast" Greenwald ? ridiculous right?

IMO none of those things are germane to issue not race, religious/ethnic affiliation, or orientation

[Frustratedlady]

41. Joy, hands down. She is sharp and won't back down on her statements.

I'm really impressed with her knowledge on all kinds of subjects. I'm sure she is a burr under the Repugs' saddles.

[Iliyah]

69. I love kittys

hehehehehehehehehehe

[randome]

8. Before this is over, Greenwald will have to hide in South America somewhere.

Oh. Wait...never mind.

[hr]
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[flamingdem]

11. brazilll o brazilll where I can hide from Joy and Tio Sam brazillll

[baldguy]

28. Or maybe Peru?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzcarraldo

[flamingdem]

30. I've already envisioned Glenn as Aguirre or Fitzcarraldo hacking his way through the jungle

from Brazil to Ecuador. Peru who knows, not sure they'd play nice.

[Hissyspit]

61. Christ, you got nothing.

You know why he's in Brazil.

Pathetic.

[ljm2002]

94. As you no doubt are aware...

...Greenwald lives in Brazil because he can't marry his Brazilian companion, thus conferring US citizenship on him. If they could have married, they would have been living in the US.

Your remark is without merit, just an excuse to be snide.

[Recursion]

140. He can now. ICE has to have an implementation by August

I'll be the first to welcome GG and his husband of they want to repatriate.

[Beaverhausen]

12. I love her even more now

[flamingdem]

15. She needs her own show, but for now she livens up everyone elses

[Fawke Em]

110. Really? Because I just lost all respect for her.

She should be thankful that someone like Greenwald still seeks to shine some transparency on the "evils" of our government instead of turning on him like the PR flack that she is.

And she IS buying the Obama NSA line...

Sorry.

[eissa]

14. Oh, if only Joy was a real journalist

like GG, the only real journalist out there. Everyone else is either a corporate shill, Obama lover, or jealous of his awesome investigation skills ya know.

[flamingdem]

20. She is really something

runs in circles around many. I'm not sure she's got the goods on Greenwald but it would be fun to watch a "discussion" between the two!

[DURHAM D]

47. She will clean the floor with him.

[cali]

16. The sneering Obama operative accusation is the sort of

thing that Greenwald pulls all too often.

[ljm2002]

95. See post #77...

...with a link to the actual Twitter exchange:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/349316074677870592

You will see it was not GG who made that remark.

[Hissyspit]

139. The best I can figure or find, the words are HERS:

As I posted down thread:

"SOMEONE ELSE called her an Obama operative on Twitter in the conversation the OP is referencing, but the OP left it implied that Greenwald did. Reid asked her question of Greenwald, about him supposedly not responding to questions about Snowden getting the Booz Allen job, and he responded with links to interviews showing he clearly did, in answer to her question. Her implication that Greenwald had not addressed the issue was false. That's all. There was no more Twitter conversation involving Greenwald as the OP implied. Then, she referenced being called an 'Obama operative,' which apparently comes from this earlier Twitter conversation where Greenwald does NOT call her an Obama operative, but, rather, makes an argument about automatic assumption of validity of journalists:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-greenwald-blasts-joy-ann-reid-msnbc-for-blind-acceptance-of-obamas-narrative-on-nsa

...and then someone else in the later Twitter thread called her that, repeating HER words.

(He may have called her an 'Obama operative' somewhere else, but I can't find any evidence of it. Those seem to be HER words. If you can find an incident where he did, please post it.)"

[bunnies]

17. I must be twitter illiterate.

This just looks like a big word salad to me.

[flamingdem]

32. I suggest going to twitter and looking for the search box upper right

put in a word like:

snowden

glenn greenwald

or #snowden and you'll start to see the different tweets come up and they have clickable links

[bunnies]

35. Thanks. :)

[Luminous Animal]

77. You should take your own advice. Greenwald did not write that tweet that you posted twice...

Here is the link to the exchange:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/349316074677870592

[Whisp]

18. little glennie does not play well with others.

Joy will mop the studio floor with him. He won't show up. He is getting sweaty over many things and having Joy rip into his account of things would be too much for the little feller.

[CakeGrrl]

19. Disagree with Greenwald = "Obama Operative"

WHERE have I heard that?

[Cha]

68. Glenn and minions call us Obots.. like it's a bad thing to support PBO. it would

be freaking horrible to be a Greenwaldbot. Such a nasty little pos. Always dishing out the insults.. but, can he take it?

[sheshe2]

76. Snort~

Bulls eye, Cha!

Glenn, to the naughty mat, post haste!

[Cha]

84. Ha! Glenn doesn't have the time.. he's too

busy making threats against the US and shaking in his boots and acting like they want to kill him. That will get his conspiracy greenwaldbots raging.

Poor little Glenn.. the big bad US government may feel the need to kill little glenn greenwald.. cause he's such a narcissistic asshole like his buddy Snowden the Leaker.

[Jamaal510]

88. I'd rather be an Obamabot any day than a Waldbot or a Paulbot.

[Cha]

90. ExFReakin'Zactly, Jamaal

[ljm2002]

96. See reply #77...

...with a link to the actual twitter exchange:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/349316074677870592

Then come back and tell us if it was GG who made that remark.

Hint: it wasn't.

[zappaman]

26. Kick and REC!

[randome]

34. It's all out war!

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[flamingdem]

38. like that one

another

come 'n git it glenn

[FarCenter]

37. Greenwald is now irrelevant -- he's had his 15 minutes of fame

First he lost the situation to Assange.

It's doubtful whether either Assange or Greenwald are able to communicate with Snowden.

Guardian, South China Morning Post, and Washington Post have no new stuff. They are just rehashing old news.

Snowden now has new companionship courtesy of the FSB. I'd bet that Sarah Harrison has separate lodgings.

[flamingdem]

40. Gosh what if she has to share the pod hotel with him

for a loong time even.. ouch

So much for pro bono work!

You might be right that Assange grabbed the spotlight away from GG from here forward

[FarCenter]

49. I'm sure the Russian would have a "high value subject" interview team.

This would be a carefully chosen set of sympathetic and agressive individuals, and a well organized sequence of isolation, reunion, access to news/internet, etc.

They already know that Snowden can be pressured by 'internet withdrawal" and isolation.

[Cali_Democrat]

45. How dare Joy Reid

ask questions.

The nerve!!!

[flamingdem]

56. That really needled GG

haw

[avaistheone1]

48. Joy who?

[DevonRex]

50. Go Joy and don't take any shit from

that weasel.

[Douglas Carpenter]

51. good for her!! It takes real courage to stand up and fight to defend the surveillance state!

If the lefty loons have their way - the government won't even be able to monitor everyone's communications and activities.

[Fawke Em]

111. Finally!

This seems to be the only relevant post in this thread.

[Bluenorthwest]

52. Is this Joy Reid from the WH Press department? And who is Alex Now?

I don't watch the day time soaps so I don't know the story lines.

[Robb]

103. Joy was the one with amnesia

...she accidentally married her first husband who everyone thought was dead.

[Tarheel_Dem]

53. He might wish he'd picked a fight with Karen Finney. I love Karen, but she's no Joy Reid.

KICK HIS MF'in ASS, JOY!!!!! When Glenn is losing an argument, he resorts to namecalling = Obama Operative. I can't believe he gets paid for his crap!

[flamingdem]

57. She could do it

what will it take to make him relent and participate he he

[Whisp]

62. she keeps on subject and does not lose her cool

plus she is a few grades above GG in intelligence. GG is opposite on all of those things. Ranter brat with a half a brain and a full tongue for licking the Paul family ass.

[flamingdem]

85. pow pow poooww!

[Tarheel_Dem]

74. I would love to see a loosely moderated, hour long debate between the two of them. I think GG...

would take his weak ass back to Brazil, pack up, and request asylum in Ecuador!

[Thinkingabout]

55. If Greenwald's best statement was the one he dribbled to Davod Gregory he will loose.

He does not have a defense. At first he seemed to paint the picture poor Snowden in being innocent. Loose lips sinks ships and Snowden has sunk Greenwald and himself. Snowden was intent on this well before going to work for the NSA. Snowden might think he has brought down the US but it will take more than this story. Just as one door closes another opens. The NSA will become even better at surveillance. This is more complicated that Snowden will ever "expose". Snowden is a scumbag.

[flamingdem]

58. People do need to learn to keep their mouth shut

They just taking on water

[Thinkingabout]

66. K& R

[one_voice]

60. I like Joy Reid...

she doesn't take any shit.

Why does GG resort to name calling when someone challenges him? Kinda loser behavior if you ask me.

[sheshe2]

73. Cause he's got nothing~

Go Joy

[Hissyspit]

63. Did everyone rec this thread:?

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3092343

[Cali_Democrat]

67. How do you rec the front page of DU?

[Hissyspit]

97. Fixed it.

Thanks. Enjoy.

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

64. zzzZZZzzz

yeah, now the mouthpieces for the totalitarians want to physically assault a fellow journalist.

[flamingdem]

65. metaphor capacity much?

[Fawke Em]

120. Well, it certainly seems to be the truth.

That the talking heads at MSNBC are railing against Greenwald only proves that they aren't serious journalists and that the Obama Administration officials butters their toast.

[flamingdem]

121. Try Fox instead

[Fawke Em]

123. They're the horse of a different color.

They are the same, but on the right.

Journalism shouldn't be about sucking up. It's about providing information to the people, not access.

[Comrade Grumpy]

70. Who cares? A battle of tweets? Really?

These posts are going beyond pathetic.

[tridim]

82. Oh shit! Comrade Grumpy is grumpy.

[zeemike]

75. I stoped reading this when I read

&quot implied at some point or said)"
There is a reason that one of the ten commandments is "thow shall not bear false witness"
If you can't quote WHAT he said then it must be dismissed as false witness IMHO

Plus I don't give a shit what someone on the TV says to get attention for their failing program.

[starroute]

78. None of those tweets are from Greenwald

The only thing he's tweeted about Reid was linking without comment to the Washington Post story describing her as raising "questions" about him. The person who accused Reid on Twitter of being an Obama operative was not Greenwald but somebody posting as "frickyeah1990s" -- a fact you conveniently left out when you wrote "This seems to be his answer."

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/349564276425498627

The WashPost on the "unfounded suspicion" being spewed by MSNBC http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/06/25/msnbcs-reid-raises-questions-about-guardians-glenn-greenwald/ …

Washington Post
MSNBC’s Reid raises ‘questions’ about Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald
Journalist travels to Hong Kong to get killer documents. Does that seem strange to you?


https://twitter.com/frickyeah1990s/status/349326099144130561

Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport
@ggreenwald how about @NowWithAlex on Wednesday? You can even call me an Obama operative on TV!

frickyeah1990s frickyeah1990s ?@frickyeah1990s
@TheReidReport @ggreenwald @NowWithAlex evr1 already knows youre an obama operative who cares if its on some irrelevant low rated msnbc show

[socialist_n_TN]

89. I haven't waded in on this stuff yet, but I now have a single comment........

It's quite possible to assume that, since she worked for the Obama WH, she IS an "Obama operative".

[Karmadillo]

91. Facts? Facts? You dare bring facts to the Two Minute Greenwald Hate?

Thanks for the link to the Post. Makes one think Reid might not do as well in a debate with Greenwald as her swarm of admirers imagine.

[Iliyah]

80. Funny tho

much needed even for a minute to take away from the repeated constant yada yada bullshit.

[Coccydynia]

81. If "old news" is legitimate to ignore Snowden

then "old news" is legitimate to ignore Reid.

[arely staircase]

86. the internet (especially twitter) has turned the whole world into middle school chearleaders

nt

[frylock]

87. Greenwald said (implied at some point or said)..

so was it said, or implied, or is this just more bullshit?

[DesMoinesDem]

92. A feud with one post? You clearly have no understanding of Twitter.

This thread would be dumb enough even if there was a feud. But there wasn't which makes this thread exceptionally stupid.

[dgauss]

93. "This seems to be his answer -- or the answer of a follower not sure"

Close enough for the purpose at hand!

[ljm2002]

98. Way to go there, flamingdem...

...you have managed to spread a lie rather effectively while leaving yourself wiggle room to say "Who, me? I didn't say I was *sure* that GG said it..."

From your OP:

@ggreenwald how about @NowWithAlex on Wednesday? You can even call me an Obama operative on TV!

This seems to be his answer -- or the answer of a follower not sure

@TheReidReport @ggreenwald @NowWithAlex evr1 already knows youre an obama operative who cares if its on some irrelevant low rated msnbc show

Cute how you omitted the actual names of the posters when you cut & pasted from the twitter feed:

Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 24 Jun

@ggreenwald how about @NowWithAlex on Wednesday? You can even call me an Obama operative on TV!

...

frickyeah1990s ?@frickyeah1990s 24h

@TheReidReport @ggreenwald @NowWithAlex evr1 already knows youre an obama operative who cares if its on some irrelevant low rated msnbc show

and the responses to this OP reflect the lie, cheering about Glenn's nonexistent accusation.

Oh and BTW here is the actual exchange between Joy Reid and Glenn Greenwald:

Joy Reid ?@TheReidReport 24 Jun

Wonder if @ggreenwald will address the revelation that Ed Snowden DID take the Booz Allen job in order to leak. Tick tock.


Glenn Greenwald Glenn GreenwaldVerified account ?@ggreenwald

@TheReidReport You mean like this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/24/glenn-greenwald-pushes-back-hard-on-latest-edward-snowden-revelations/ … - and this: http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/24/columnist-says-he-did-not-aid-or-abet-nsa-leaker/ …?

Just for the record.

[Hissyspit]

100. It's amazing.

Not only was there no feud, but Greenwald immediately pointed out why her question's premise was false.

[ljm2002]

101. Yes, and very underhanded...

..."This seems to be his answer -- or the answer of a follower not sure"

Making up a "feud" where none exists, presenting someone else's message as Greenwald's (after carefully removing the headers that clearly show whose posts are whose)...

I can understand disagreement, even hypocrisy. But this is just base, rank dishonesty.

[cthulu2016]

106. Amazing... yet also run of the mill. Sad.

[Hissyspit]

99. Why am I only finding one Tweet response from Greenwald to The Reid Report? You made this up?

What feud?

She asked a fallacious question and he proved her wrong.

[ucrdem]

102. K ' n' R

Great pic !

[Hissyspit]

104. Really?

You came here to rec a blatantly and embarassingly false OP?

Just because of a photo that has nothing to do with OP and is not disparaging of Greenwald despite your attempts to make it so?

Really?

Did you even read the responses?

Is this some kind of performance art?

[ucrdem]

107. Huh? I followed the link you posted and I figured you were recommending it.

Right now I'm listening to today's climate change speech which is excellent and haven't had time to read through the OP yet so I rec'ed the pic. Actually I rec'd it a few hours ago and just commented it.



Beautiful policy speech btw. . . He's talking about Keystone now, in front of a rather skeptical audience too. 36 min. Here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110211403

Highly recommended!

[ucrdem]

108. p.s. he just called for an end to the oil depletion allowances -- again!

He said it during his first debate too but ever picked up on it . . .

[flamingdem]

112. Great, was looking for that link

Hearing rave reviews from all around. yea!

Thanks for the rec and yes it's great one of GG, he photographs best from the right side imo

[Hissyspit]

114. Wow.

Yeah, he gives good speeches. I was in Denver in 2008.

You going self-delete you awful OP?

[ucrdem]

115. Phenomenal speech... Cha just posted a transrcipt in the same thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110211403

And I totally agree about Glenn, he is best viewed from the right

[Hissyspit]

119. He always does good speeches.

Greenwald gives pretty good speeches, too, on the failure of America's draconian drug policies and the dangers of our growing surveillance complex, sometimes at places that Dem politicians and left-leaning pundits have spoken at, too.

Of course the photo doesn't have anything to do with the ridiculous content of the OP, which you might want to unrec.

[Hissyspit]

113. Read about the climate change incentives this morning.

Was going to post it in LBN but someone beat me to it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014517350

Your diversion tactic pretty weak.

OP is blatantly false. Might want to unrec it now.

[ucrdem]

117. I think you're just looking for an argument.

Sorry, not in the mood. I have no intention of unrec'cing anything and don't flatter yourself -- I rec' d this thread long before you posted that link.

[LittleBlue]

105. Joy Reid, a journalist?

I like how ex administration officials are now deemed "journalists"

She's your typical partisan rent-a-pundit.

[Fawke Em]

116. Question: Why has Reid not gone after Barton Gellman?

The Washington Post's Gellman was the first reporter Snowden contacted and they had extensive contact. In fact, the Post printed a lot of Snowden's information.

Why hasn't Joy Reid gone after Gellman?

I just wonder if it's because Greenwald has long been a critic of the Obama Administration and Reid will have none of that!

[SidDithers]

118. DU rec...nt

Sid

[Hissyspit]

122. For a blatantly false OP?

Read the comments. It's bullshit.

[Whisp]

124. LOL.

you would be wrong, again.

but please keep on trying.

[Hissyspit]

128. How?

There's only one Tweet from Greenwald in response to Reid that I can find:

@ggreenwald: @TheReidReport You mean like this? http://t.co/V5PcrDkN51 - and this: http://t.co/HPOGxBEkrP

How is that a feud?

This Tweet is not from Greenwald:

@TheReidReport @ggreenwald @NowWithAlex evr1 already knows youre an obama operative who cares if its on some irrelevant low rated msnbc show

When did he call her an Obama operative? Somewhere else besides Twitter? (I wouldn't be particularly surprised, but why isn't that in the OP?) please provide a link to this.

When have I been "wrong before" on these particular issues? Please provide evidence.

Why do you laugh snidely and say I'm wrong (or have been wrong before) while posting nothing to back that claim? I did not mock Sid. Please show me where anything I have written is incorrect, and I will admit to being incorrect.

Why is the CATO photo in the OP? It doesn't have anything to do with Joy's question or Greenwald's response that I can see.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

129. Greenwald didn't say what the OP claimed

Sure, it could have been an honest mistake, but it's been pointed out several times that the claim is false. The OP didn't retract, and the cheer leading squad hasn't acknowledged the lie. When you trade in lies, all of your words are useless. People who knowingly lie in the face of evidence that shows they're lying--that's off into an entirely different sort of derangement.

Whisp, now that you're aware that Glen Greenwald did not say what the OP claims he did, where do you stand on this lie told in the OP?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

127. You lap up those lies don't you, Sidney?

You're chock-full of integrity, just like always.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

126. It's been pointed out several times that you've lied. Will you remove the post?

[Douglas Carpenter]

130. even if it's not true - it does defend the surveillance industrial complex and that's important!

If people like Ms. Reid lose and people like Mr. Greenwald win - we could wake up in society someday where the government is no longer able to track and keep records of all our electronic communications and activities. Who would want to live in a country like that?

As Thomas Jefferson once said, "When the government fears the people we have tyranny. When people fear the government we have freedom." --- or it was something like that -- I'm not sure

[Whisp]

131. I see no lies.

Are you running out of material?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

132. I think there must be a reason you don't see the lie

And I already know what the reason is. Have yourself a chock-full-of-integrity day.

[Whisp]

134. Joy is way smarter than Glenn

and Glenn says a lot of obnoxious shit to anyone that dares challenge him.

Which is the lie?

[Whisp]

136. There are no lies.

I have already pointed out that Joy has more intelligence than Greenwald can ever hope to have, she is a better person overall and would beat his Ron Paul lovin' ass in any debate.

[Hissyspit]

138. The repeated laughing smilie is particularly juvenile

when you continue to make a claim and do absolutely nothing to back it up, despite repeated requests. And what does the rest of the baseless nonsense you wrote have to do with anything?

Please provide a link or any argument to prove that there is no inaccuracy, misrepresentation, deliberate or honestly confused, in most of the OP.

SOMEONE ELSE called her an Obama operative on Twitter in the conversation the OP is referencing, but the OP left it implied that Greenwald did. Reid asked her question of Greenwald, about him supposedly not responding to questions about Snowden getting the Booz Allen job, and he responded with links to interviews showing he clearly did, in answer to her question. Her implication that Greenwald had not addressed the issue was false. That's all. There was no more Twitter conversation involving Greenwald as the OP implied.

Then, she referenced being called an 'Obama operative,' which apparently comes from this earlier Twitter conversation where Greenwald does NOT call her an Obama operative, but, rather, makes an argument about automatic assumption of validity of journalists:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-greenwald-blasts-joy-ann-reid-msnbc-for-blind-acceptance-of-obamas-narrative-on-nsa

...and then someone else in the later Twitter thread called her that, repeating HER words.

(He may have called her an 'Obama operative' somewhere else, but I can't find any evidence of it. Those seem to be HER words. If you can find an incident where he did, please post it.)

I actually like Joy Reid, but I don't make up baseless slander to try and destroy her just because she says something I don't like and I want to believe something bad about her automatically whether it is true or not.

[Hissyspit]

133. Please answer the questions in post #128.

It has been pointed out there and several other places in this thread why the OP is blatantly inaccurate if not outright mendacious.

[Cha]

141. Kick for Joy!

[flamingdem]

142. I wish Joy could take a moment

to discuss Greenwald and his latest "bombshell" exclamations!

[Cha]

143. Yes, I'd love to hear from her on G's "coming bombshell".. smartypants had this to say

http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/

[flamingdem]

144. Very insightful

I love to be in on how it all works. The GeeGee mechanisms!

[struggle4progress]

145. Reid figured out Greenwald some time ago

[flamingdem]

146. She's got him beat by about 30 IQ points!

[Marr]

147. The OP is lying, fyi.

The quote they're attributing to Greenwald was not a comment from Greenwald. If you're buying it and high-fiving them, well... they're playing you for a fool.

But since the subject was raised... Joy Reid *was* an Obama Press Aide.