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warrior1

(12,325 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:12 AM Jun 2013

Page 4 of the Roberts dissent, talking about Prop 8: "We hold today that we lack jurisdiction to con

Page 4 of the Roberts dissent, talking about Prop 8: "We hold today that we lack jurisdiction to consider it in the particular context of Hollingsworth v. Perr

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Page 4 of the Roberts dissent, talking about Prop 8: "We hold today that we lack jurisdiction to con (Original Post) warrior1 Jun 2013 OP
more warrior1 Jun 2013 #1
VRA makes even more sense JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #2
Looks like theyre punting. nt bunnies Jun 2013 #3
I've said all along that they'd punt back to the states Warpy Jun 2013 #7
So Prop 8 will be dead in CA... bunnies Jun 2013 #8
Yes. This court is about expanding corporate rights, not human rights. Warpy Jun 2013 #10
*sigh* bunnies Jun 2013 #11
Jesus Christ, Roberts. Pab Sungenis Jun 2013 #4
amy just said warrior1 Jun 2013 #5
Scalia is reading his dissent and it is apparently lenghy... n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #9
At least CA now has marriage equality even if other states continue fighting for it LonePirate Jun 2013 #6
pretty soon there won't be enough fingers to plug up that dam(n) leak Sheepshank Jun 2013 #12

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
1. more
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jun 2013

to be clear, the Court has not yet released the decision in Prop 8, but there is language in Windsor telegraphing that the Court will dismiss on standing.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
2. VRA makes even more sense
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jun 2013

He's firmly in the camp of 'states rights'. All very clear now. But so glad DOMA has been proven discriminatory.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
7. I've said all along that they'd punt back to the states
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:18 AM
Jun 2013

because the Roberts court doesn't want to be associated with expanding rights nationally. They want it to be fought one state at a time, with Dixie refusing to recognize marriages performed in other states and the Fed refusing to recognize the legality of same sex marriages when it comes to social security, benefits and taxes.

I'm not surprised DOMA was struck down. I will be both flabbergasted and delighted if the Prop 8 ruling sets standards for the whole country but I don't expect it.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
8. So Prop 8 will be dead in CA...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:19 AM
Jun 2013

but other states will still be free to discriminate? Is that the basic gist of it?

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
10. Yes. This court is about expanding corporate rights, not human rights.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jun 2013

We'll have to wait for Fat Tony to kick the bucket before we have any hope of another Loving vs. Virginia landmark ruling.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
11. *sigh*
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jun 2013

So in states with marriage equality, the couples will be recognized by the federal government. But in states without marriage equality, same sex couples are still second class citizens?! How the hell does that make sense?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
12. pretty soon there won't be enough fingers to plug up that dam(n) leak
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jun 2013

Lack of Federal laws, Mormon, Southern Baptist, Born again, Palinista and Santorum-ly pressures won't stymie this progression.

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