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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums10 years ago today my guy and I woke up in a state (Mississippi) that considered our relationship
a crime (one of 13 states at that time). Justice Anthony Kennedy changed all that with his opinion in Lawrence v. Texas on 6/26/2003. Today that same Justice Kennedy said that if I'll get off my ass and get out of Mississippi and move into one of the civilized states I can be given all the same basic rights of all other citizens.
I rarely agree with Justice Kennedy-indeed, he has made some disastrously wrong decisions for democracy. But much like the "blind pig" he occasionally finds an acorn and today he found just such an acorn. I don't consider him a hero-I'm not calling for him to be sainted, but I am saying, in all sincerity....thank you Justice Anthony Kennedy-at least for this.
But many, many more thank to David Boies and (ahem) Ted Olsen and finally, more than anyone else, thank you to Edie Windsor. You are the real hero tonight, you and all who fought so hard for us.
Credit where credit is due....
MuseRider
(34,104 posts)Great day isn't it?
I was surprised and am now very pleased.
Credit where credit is due. Exactly. Sometimes the help you need comes from surprising places
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)I didn't expect anything good.
It indeed has been a very good day!
Rhiannon12866
(205,119 posts)And yes, including Anthony Kennedy and Ted Olsen. Wonders never cease and today was truly historic. We all won something important today...
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)Today's verdict was a real stunner for me. I really didn't see it coming. I was convinced Kennedy would fold.
I was wrong.
Rhiannon12866
(205,119 posts)What's that they complain about? "Activist judges?"
But they surprised me, too, by doing the right thing. When I first heard it, I wondered if John Roberts had actually examined the law again, but I was wrong. *sigh* This is truly a decision whose time has come. The president supports it and so do the overwhelming majority of the American people. I'm just grateful that Anthony Kennedy stood up and was counted.
We have three more years of this president, so there is hope for this court. I just wish that it was Scalia and Thomas who were of retirement age, rather than brave little Ruth Bader Ginsburg. *sigh*
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)when I couldn't imagine the court without William O Douglas.
And its never been the same since.
Rhiannon12866
(205,119 posts)I've seen pix of her when she was much younger and she was lovely! It's painful to think of some of these justices hanging on (John Paul Stevens) to wait for the right president. That's one reason we have to win in 2016, though I think they'll carry Scalia and Thomas out before they decide to retire...
LuvNewcastle
(16,843 posts)Mississippi must recognize all marriages performed in other states. I'm optimistic now that we'll see that verdict relatively soon. Rowdyboy, I never thought I'd see the day, but it's coming.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)and Article 4, Section 1 is pretty damned explicit on the subject.
Constitutionally, there's no legal way MS can get away with not recognizing a SSM performed in, let's say, WA. And if they do refuse, then it's automatically a constitutional issue.
That's going come up in the next five years, tops, and hopefully Scalia will be gone from the USSC before President Obama's term is up. I'd love to see him appoint another Justice, and ideally, one who's the polar opposite of Justice Scalia.
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)Unless of course Chris Christie or some other asshole wins in 2016 because we Democrats are too busy fighting among ourselves to realize where the real danger lies.
Cha
(297,105 posts)this Important Decision when he's been so wrong on so many others!
But, We'll Take It!
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)Yesterday marked the third or fourth step. Maybe someday....