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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:45 AM

Ecuador: Media Distorting Our Words. We're Pulling Out of US Trade Agreement. Offer US Economic Aid

Patiño accuses the media of distorting his words on Snowden's asylum

Published: June 27, 2013 | 9:34 GMT

The Foreign Minister of Ecuador, Ricardo Patiño, said some media distorted his statements on the time necessary to consider the Latin American country not to grant political asylum to the CIA excolaborador Edward Snowden.

Journalists referring to Patino reported that Ecuador would take more than two months to review Snowden's application. "In Kuala Lumpur I stated that the decision of asylum could be resolved in a day, in a week or, as happened with Assange, could take two months. The media removed the first part of the statement and left only the second. They're trying to cause confusion, as we already know," Patiño wrote in his Twitter account.

http://actualidad.rt.com/ultima_hora/view/98552-patino-medios-distorsionar-asilo-snowden

And another thing

RT ‏@RT_com 41m

Ecuador can't currently grant asylum to #Snowden, obstacle that he's not on its soil - officials http://on.rt.com/agi12q

12:44 GMT: Ecuador says it has not processed Snowden’s asylum request because he has not reached any of its diplomatic premises.

Asa K Cusack ‏@AsaKCusack 26m

Fascinating stuff from #Ecuador in response to #US #Snowden #trade threats: they've dropped #ATPDEA rather than having US revoke it. Astute.

El Universo ‏@eluniversocom 1h

Ecuador's Secretary of Communication announced that Ecuador renounces the US preferential trade agreement (Andean Trade Promotion and Drug Eradication Act) and offers economic aid to the US

Secretario de Comunicación anuncia que #Ecuador renuncia a preferencias arancelarias #ATPDEA y ofrece una ayuda económica a EE.UU.


GAWD the US government and its lackeys are fucking tone deaf. Latin America made it clear it's SICK of the US drug war, and the US held that agreement over its head? After all the ALBA countries had already publicly pledged to kick out the USAID? And that they were SICK of being called (John Kerry that was you recently) and treated as America's backyard? Who's running this show?


Ecuador renounces renewed trade benefits from US Congress
Published June 27, 2013
Associated Press

QUITO, Ecuador – Ecuador's communications minister says the country is renouncing trade preferences that are up for U.S. congressional renewal.

It comes as Ecuador considers the asylum request of NSA leaker Edward Snowden, which has prompted critics in the U.S. to suggest retaliation against the South American country.

Minister Fernando Alvarado told a news conference Thursday the benefits were originally granted for help in the fight against drugs but have become "an instrument of blackmail." He said "Ecuador unilaterally and irrevocably renounces said preferences."

...

Alvarez said his country won't bow "to mercantile interests, as important as they may be."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/27/ecuador-renounces-renewed-trade-benefits-from-us-congress/




Through his Twitter account the president (Correa) stressed that the Washington Post had "accused" Ecuador of having double standards.

They have managed to focus on Snowden (an ex-intelligence agent who fled the United States) and the "evil" countries that "support" him, making us forget the terrible actions he denounced against the U.S. people and the whole world, he expressed on Twitter.

"The world order is not only unjust, it is immoral," stressed the president.

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The Ecuadorian government puts principles above its interests, said Foreign Affairs Minister Ricardo Patiño in a press conference from Vietnam where he was on an official visit.

http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1552231&Itemid=1


In a deliberately cheeky touch from the leftist government of President Rafael Correa, Ecuador also offered a multimillion donation for human rights training in the United States.


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"What's more, Ecuador offers the United States economic aid of $23 million annually, similar to what we received with the trade benefits, with the intention of providing education about human rights," Alvarado added.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627


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Reply Ecuador: Media Distorting Our Words. We're Pulling Out of US Trade Agreement. Offer US Economic Aid (Original post)
Catherina Jun 2013 OP
ProSense Jun 2013 #1
karynnj Jun 2013 #2
dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #3
Zorra Jun 2013 #4
Catherina Jun 2013 #5
Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #32
msanthrope Jun 2013 #6
Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #7
Bacchus4.0 Jun 2013 #8
ProSense Jun 2013 #15
Catherina Jun 2013 #9
ProSense Jun 2013 #12
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #14
WinkyDink Jun 2013 #16
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17
former9thward Jun 2013 #23
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24
Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #33
former9thward Jun 2013 #34
Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #35
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #10
former9thward Jun 2013 #20
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #21
Bacchus4.0 Jun 2013 #11
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #13
railsback Jun 2013 #18
limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #19
byeya Jun 2013 #22
geek tragedy Jun 2013 #25
Catherina Jun 2013 #29
Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #36
Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #26
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #27
dothemath Jun 2013 #28
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #30
ProSense Jun 2013 #31

Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:47 AM

1. Ecuador denies giving Snowden a travel document: report

Ecuador denies giving Snowden a travel document: report
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023107941

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Response to ProSense (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:51 AM

2. Interesting as that means he likely has NO valid document to travel under

I suspect he may be in Russian airport longer than anyone would want to be.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:54 AM

3. If Ecuador choes to do so

they can move him direct to their Embassy in a diplomatic car.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:57 AM

4. "The world order is not only unjust, it is immoral," stressed the president.

Words I would dearly love to hear a US president say.

K&R

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Response to Zorra (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:59 AM

5. I have long admired President Correa. The US just doesn't get it. Money is not everything

and Correa has been creating jobs, pulling people out of poverty into homes and security.

Will we ever learn that people need to be put ahead of capital for a society to grow?

I just added and love this part:

In a deliberately cheeky touch from the leftist government of President Rafael Correa, Ecuador also offered a multimillion donation for human rights training in the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627

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Response to Catherina (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:50 AM

32. You admire a man that actively deprives gay citizens in his country of their civil rights.

So easily fooled by autocrats, just as long as they mumble vaguely leftist rhetoric and hate the U.S.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:00 AM

6. Ecuador wasn't going to get a renewal.....it's an empty gesture. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:08 AM

7. So all the threats in the US media were empty too?

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:19 AM

8. correct, now their products will be more expensive in the US

Importers will turn to Colombia, Chile, and Peru to buy the products as they have free trade agreements with the US.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:32 AM

15. He made a snarky comment about the benefits of trade

"What's more, Ecuador offers the United States economic aid of $23 million annually, similar to what we received with the trade benefits, with the intention of providing education about human rights," Alvarado added.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627


I guess that's to down play his country's own abuses (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3110238) and the benefits of the agreement.

<...>

In Washington, the head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has threatened to lead the effort to remove preferential trade treatment for Ecuadorian goods if the country decides to offer asylum to Snowden.

"Edward Snowden is a fugitive who has endangered the national security of the United States," Sen. Robert Menendez said in a statement released late on Wednesday. "Trade preferences are a privilege granted to nations, not a right. I urge (Ecuadorean) President Correa to do the right thing by the United States and Ecuador, and deny Snowden's request for asylum."

In 2012, Ecuador exported some $5.4 billion worth of oil, $166 million of cut flowers, $122 million of fruits and vegetables and $80 million of tuna to the United States.

Menendez said he would lead efforts to stop the renewal of Ecuador's duty-free access to America markets under the Generalized System of Preferences program, which expires on July 31. He also said he'd try and block renewal of the Andean Trade Promotion and Drug Eradication Act, which also expires at the end of July.

- more -

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/27/19166043-obama-not-scrambling-jets-to-get-nsa-leaker-snowden


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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:21 AM

9. Why Ecuador would be an ideal refuge for Edward Snowden

Why Ecuador would be an ideal refuge for Edward Snowden

This country has already been dragged through the mud for sheltering Julian Assange, and it is willing to stand up to the US


Mark Weisbrot
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 27 June 2013 12.00 BST

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The media took advantage of the fact that most of the world knows very little about Ecuador to misinform their audience that this government "represses the media". The same efforts are already under way in the Snowden case. Without defending everything that exists in Ecuador, including criminal libel laws and some vague language in a new communications law, anyone who has been to the country knows that the international media has presented a gross caricature of the state of press freedom there. The Ecuadorian private media is more oppositional than that of the US, trashing the government every day.

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The great irony is not that Snowden should enlist help from Ecuador, or even Russia and China for that matter, in escaping political persecution. Has any journalist or human rights advocate criticised the thousands of Salvadoran refugees who escaped US-sponsored murder and repression in the late 1970s and 80s by fleeing to the United States, "the world's greatest purveyor of violence," as Martin Luther King once described it?

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Washington would almost certainly retaliate against Ecuador for granting asylum to Snowden. In addition to commercial sanctions, there are possible covert actions. In 2010 there was a coup attempt against Correa; although there is no direct evidence of US involvement, the police who led the uprising had a long relationship with US officials, including funding. Many in Ecuador's government believe that Washington was involved, and if it wasn't, this would be the first coup attempt in at least 60 years against a left-wing government in Latin America that Washington had nothing to do with.

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If Washington is ultimately forced to respect international law in this case, it will be because many countries, most strikingly in South America, no longer fear US retaliation. Since Snowden did a huge public service by revealing government wrongdoing, this is another example of how US citizens – contrary to what our media tells us every day – actually benefit from the development of a more multipolar world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/27/ecuador-ideal-refuge-edward-snowden

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Response to Catherina (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:28 AM

12. Why Ecuador?

Why Ecuador?

By David Weigel

<...>


But why Ecuador? First, the country has an enviably loopholed extradition treaty with the United States. Outlaws wanted for offenses "of a political character" can dodge extradition. The oh-so-bright American senators who rushed to call Snowden a "traitor" have certainly created the impression that Snowden is wanted for political reasons, and in his interviews he's happy to reinforce this.

Second, the ruling regime in Ecuador doesn't really care what America thinks. In 2006 the country gave its presidency to Rafael Correa. A fan and ally of Hugo Chavez, Correa reversed decades of Ecuadorian kowtowing to the United States by declaring the national debt illegitimate and defaulting on the country's bonds. A country that had adopted* the U.S. dollar as a default currency had sparked a nationalist debt revolt—and it sort of won. Correa, never as colorful as Chavez, still consolidated power and won a landslide re-election. Giving asylum to people who make America look weak, and spill its secrets, is easy politics for him.

The result: Snowden, avoiding extradition, is on a world tour of regimes generally more hostile to press and information freedom than the United States is. At the moment he's less concerned with irony than with avoiding jail.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/06/23/why_ecuador.html

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Response to ProSense (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:29 AM

14. And, Ecuador is a de facto province of China.

 



The shaded area was sold to China this spring.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:35 AM

16. Read your labels here.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:37 AM

17. Did the United States just sell 10 states to China?

 

Because that's what Ecuador did--sold about 20% of its land mass to Chinese oil companies, who'll have free reign to massacre the indigenous tribes there and ruin the ecosystems.

We buy Chinese goods.

China bought Ecuador.

There's a difference.

Correa is given a free pass on this around here because he's a leftist.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:20 AM

23. The U.S. has sold its economy to China.

China doesn't need to buy states. The Chinese finance our spending and if we ever stopped using Chinese goods our inflation rate would go to the sky. The government would not have the cheap Chinese products to keep the rate low so they don't have to pay people on SS any COLAs.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:30 AM

24. If we stopped using Chinese goods, we'd buy them from other developing countries

 

like India, the Phillippines etc.

China holds less than 7% of US national debt, and it only holds that much due to complications in repatriating foreign currencies earned.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:01 PM

33. China needs this country to buy their exports, we are a huge market.

You got it backwards.

Until China develops a much larger internal market for products they produce, for them it is "Export Or Die".

Who controls your destiny as a business? Your biggest customer does.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #33)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:11 PM

34. Well China thumbed its nose at the U.S. with Snowden.

The U.S. made a weak protest. I don't think I have it backwards.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #34)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:37 PM

35. And maybe, just maybe, the U.S. wanted Snowden to run, and not stay one minute more

under Chinese control.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:22 AM

10. Apparenty protecting Snowden is more important than protecting the 8 million acres

 

of Amazonian rainforest he auctioned off to Chinese oil companies so they can destroy entire ecosystems.

"We in Ecuador proclaim that we don't belong to the United States. Ecuador belongs to China!"

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:17 AM

20. I was wondering what new smear the Smear Machine would have today.

Snowden is now responsible for destroying the ecology of Ecuador.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:18 AM

21. No he's not. But this stuff about principles over profits is political posturing. nt

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:23 AM

11. 100,000 workers in cut flower industry in Ecuador

from your link:

An OPEC nation of 15 million people, Ecuador exported $5.4 billion worth of oil, $166 million of cut flowers, $122 million of fruits and vegetables and $80 million of tuna to the United States under the Andean trade program in 2012.

Termination of the benefits could hurt the cut flower industry, which has blossomed under the program and employs more than 100,000 workers, many of them women.

Critics of Correa say Ecuador's embrace of Assange - and now possibly Snowden - is hypocritical given what they say is his authoritarian style and suppression of media at home.

Supporters of Correa say he has simply taken on media and business elites who were trying to erode what the president calls his "Citizens' Revolution."

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:28 AM

13. Correa sold 20% of Ecuador's land mass to China recently.

 



So, he recognizes he can't serve two masters.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:05 AM

18. More bravado

 

According to the U.S. trade site, Ecuador currently exports, on average, $600 million per month to the U.S., while the U.S. exports around $1 billion to Ecuador. Already over $12 billion in debt, which is massive to a tiny country of 15 million, what exactly would be the point of cutting off your populous from a very lucrative trade deal that benefits a good chunk of Ecuador?? And then offering up $23 million in aid you don't have to combat human rights violations while you're silencing your own opposition through government force? LoL.

I still believe Correa isn't an idiot, and I hope for Ecuador's sake, I'm not wrong.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:16 AM

19. We should accept the $23 million for human rights training / we need it. nt

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:20 AM

22. Ecuador can't forget Texaco(now Exxon Mobil) and the horror that company wrought

 

and has not begun to clean up the death trap they left behind.

"Unlike the Exxon Valdez disaster that spilled over a million gallons of crude during a one time cataclysmic event, Texaco's oil extraction system in Ecuador was designed, built, and operated on the cheap using substandard technology from the outset. This led to extreme, systematic pollution and exposure to toxins from multiple sources on a daily basis for almost three decades.

In a rainforest area roughly three times the size of Manhattan, Texaco carved out 350 oil wells, and upon leaving the country in 1992, left behind some 1,000 open toxic waste pits. Many of these pits leak into the water table or overflow in heavy rains, polluting rivers and streams that 30,000 people depend on for drinking, cooking, bathing and fishing. Texaco also dumped more than 18 billion gallons of toxic and highly saline "formation waters," a byproduct of the drilling process, into the rivers of the Oriente. At the height of Texaco's operations, the company was dumping an estimated 4 million gallons of formation waters per day, a practice outlawed in major US oil producing states like Louisiana, Texas, and California decades before the company began operations in Ecuador in 1967. By handling its toxic waste in Ecuador in ways that were illegal in its home country, Texaco saved an estimated $3 per barrel of oil produced."

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Response to byeya (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:31 AM

25. I'm sure the Chinese will be much more responsible nt

 

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Response to byeya (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:39 AM

29. An inconvenient fact right now. Thanks for reminding everyone n/t

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Response to byeya (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:42 PM

36. Aren't chevron also embroiled in a scandal regarding Ecuador? n/t

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:34 AM

26. kick ..didn't see this post

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:34 AM

27. Oh this should be fun

 

Ecuador says it has not processed Snowden’s asylum request because he has not reached any of its diplomatic premises.

S


This is from the Foreigns affairs head, Patiño...there goes the he is not at transit lounge theory ongoing. I mean, what could he know?

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:36 AM

28. talk about a bitch slap ......... dayum!

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:42 AM

30. Ingrates! How dare they refuse our bullying..er...help.

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:47 AM

31. Ecuador has been lobbying the U.S. for improved trade access:

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