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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:48 AM

Bill bans bongs, pipes in Florida

Bill bans bongs, pipes in Florida
New legislation prohibits sale, consumption of smoking pipes

Floridian youth has been railing against the newly signed House Bill 49, the Bong Ban bill, which at first glance would seem to ensure the ruin of Florida tobacco shops and hookah bars.

Approved by Gov. Rick Scott on June 5, the new piece of legislation bans the sale of water pipes, chamber pipes, electric pipes, ice pipes and air-driven pipes.

Essentially, if an item can be used specifically for smoking, it can no longer be sold, owned, used, manufactured, delivered, advertised or transported in the state of Florida.

An anonymous FSU student said they think the pipe ban bill is ridiculous because so many items can be converted to smoking devices. This student was much less phased by the bill, and wasnít exactly taking it seriously.

ďAre they going to ban apples and Pepsi cans now? I can make bongs out of anything,Ē the student said.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20130626/FSVIEW/130626013/Bill-bans-bongs-pipes-in-Florida-

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Reply Bill bans bongs, pipes in Florida (Original post)
The Straight Story Jun 2013 OP
Aerows Jun 2013 #1
Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #3
Aerows Jun 2013 #12
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #4
Aerows Jun 2013 #13
EvilAL Jun 2013 #22
Recursion Jun 2013 #14
Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #2
snooper2 Jun 2013 #11
Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #31
niyad Jun 2013 #5
The Straight Story Jun 2013 #6
Chan790 Jun 2013 #15
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #16
Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #17
malaise Jun 2013 #7
DonRedwood Jun 2013 #23
onethatcares Jun 2013 #32
MindPilot Jun 2013 #8
OriginalGeek Jun 2013 #33
WovenGems Jun 2013 #9
kentuck Jun 2013 #10
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #18
Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #21
Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #19
magellan Jun 2013 #20
Scurrilous Jun 2013 #24
SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #25
Politicalboi Jun 2013 #26
DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #27
Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #28
egold2604 Jun 2013 #29
kentauros Jun 2013 #30
MineralMan Jun 2013 #34
Throd Jun 2013 #35
notadmblnd Jun 2013 #36

Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:51 AM

1. Apples?

 

How on earth does that work?

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Response to Aerows (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:53 AM

3. You asked, I answer.



Though I suspect this could be against TOS. I'm too lazy to check. Please ask me to delete before alerting if it is so.

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:34 AM

12. My word

 

How ingenious. I'm not a pot smoker, so I was curious. LOL.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:54 AM

4. easily:

Many ways are shown on the page..here is the most basic.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:35 AM

13. Interesting

 

People can come up with some neat solutions to problems!

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Response to Aerows (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:22 PM

22. Give a pot smoker some weed and a way to light it

and he/she'll find a way to smoke it...
I've never gotten stuck yet and I've had to get pretty clever sometimes..

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Response to Aerows (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:36 AM

14. I do apple pipes with tobacco sometimes

There's a scene in The 40 Year Old Virgin with an example.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:52 AM

2. The last sentence there...


It's like prohibiting lighters in order to prevent people from smoking. Not a very well thought-out scheme.

I like the message though.. "Kids, if you want to get high would you please stick to the socially accepted drugs? Get a fake ID and buy booze or go to your doctor so you can get high like all upstanding citizen do".

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:26 AM

11. Next they will have to ban YouTube

 



&nofeather=True

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:02 PM

31. Yep better get high the proper rush limbaugh way

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:04 AM

5. wondering if that means that regular pipes (you know, the old-fashioned kind) are also prohibited

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:11 AM

6. No, rich people like them so they will keep em (nt)

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:42 AM

15. In college...

 

I had a friend who used to walk around campus smoking his briar pipe openly in front of campus security and occasionally the police. He was spiking his pipe-tobacco with pot so he could get high anywhere he wanted and the scent/flavoring added to cheap pipe tobaccos* masked the smell. The only way he'd have ever been caught if is they had stopped him and tested the residue in the pipe.


*i.e.: vanilla, green apple, cinnamon, toasted nut, grape...the same flavors that convenience-store blunts and cigarillos come in.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:50 AM

16. I did same thing with cigarettes

you roll the cigarette gently between thumb and finger until the desired amount of tobacco falls out, ( about 3/4 of cig) then fill cig back up with pot or tobacco and pot mix, depending on your desired level.
Since I used filter cigs, it was a smooth smoke, and I could keep 2-3 'special " cigs in the pack.

Those were the days................

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:12 PM

17. Similar to coring out the end of a Hav-a-Tampa Jewell

 

Cigarello, plugging with weed, and re-installing a smidgen of tobacco. Light up, smells like tobacco, then inhale the gunja smoke -- a couple of hits -- then by the time someone may notice, you're back to tobacco (don't inhale that stuff).

Of course the U. of F. had a 60+ brand beer hall by 1969; augment as necessary.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:12 AM

7. Because Florida has private prisons to fill

They should lock up Rick Scott

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:24 PM

23. +1

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:07 PM

32. or at least

let us have some of what he's smoking.

that pencil necked, lizard lookin alien mofo has to be on some type of drugs.

I say we piss test him. from west central Pinellas county in St.Petersburg.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:12 AM

8. Is consuming smoking pipes a big problem?

 

Sorry to be the thread's grammar cop, but this just smacked me right in the face: "This student was much less phased by the bill..."

But yeah stupid legislation that focuses completely on intent. No problem selling the pipe if you don't sell it specifically for drug use. Yeah, everyone knows you don't go into the smoke shop and ask for a "bong."

But here's where it get's sticky: "The wording loophole will leave product vendors relatively safe, but pipe owners will have greater restrictions to contend with. Disclaimers, store sales policies and strict purchasing etiquette make it easy to work within the confines of the law, but proving intent of ownership is more difficult.

According to the law, it doesnít matter whether a pipe is filled with marijuana resin, or it hasnít even been taken it out of the bag yet, all that matters is possession. If you own it, you may be in trouble. But then again, it was a bit difficult before to prove intent either." (I don't really understand that last sentence)

Who besides me thinks there may be an awful lot of possession of a pipe while black arrests?

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Response to MindPilot (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:07 PM

33. So it's still OK as long as nobody says "bong"?

I've never been in a head shop yet that didn't openly advertise loudly that even asking about "bongs" would get you tossed out - and I haven't been in a head shop in 20 years.


but yeah, a 2 liter bottle and a knife is mostly all I would need. When I was really lazy back in the day I'd just get an empty toilet paper roll and some tin foil or the screen out of the bathroom sink faucet.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:17 AM

9. 16 years old

I walked into an upscale tobacco shop and was looking at a bong when a worker said minors couldn't buy that. I smiled and said "I want that meerschaum and the Calibre lighter." Total cost a little over four hundred. They sold me that. And screens for the pipe. And you don't need screens for pipe tobacco.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:20 AM

10. You can make a nice pipe out of a piece of aluminum foil...

Are they going to ban that also?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:15 PM

18. 'Cause that'll stop those potheads!



Are Florida and Texas in some kind of who-has-the-stupidest-legislators contest and we didn't get the memo or what?

Oh, and I just had to ETA: Did you know that, in a pinch (no pun intended), a crawdad works great as a roach clip? Just thought I'd add that.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:21 PM

21. Could be, but airliners have to fly on radar when landing in Austin & Tallahassee.

 

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:17 PM

19. Banning bongs in Florida is like banning snow in Idaho. Nt

 

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:19 PM

20. Does this mean I have to get rid of my hookah?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:27 PM

24. Florida's Bong Ban Changes Nothing for Head Shops

<snip>

"Did you hear, bro? Gov. Rick Scott is such a buzzkill. He just signed a law that makes it illegal for smoke shops to sell just about every pipe, bro! Glass, wooden, acrylic, stone, metal, with or without screens, with carburetors too! We're gonna have to stock up on apples and empty Coca-Cola cans, bro!

Um, actually no. Seriously, Florida stoners can chill. Take a hit. Unwind. The pipe ban bill that Gov. Rick Scott recently signed has no teeth. So don't expect to see a blowout sale on all smoking devices at your local smoke shops so that they can get rid of all their inventory by July 1, when the law goes into effect. Thanks to the Florida Smoke Shop Association, it's business as usual.

"It doesn't change a thing in the way we do business," says Jay Work, owner of Grateful J's, with four smoke shop locations in Broward and Palm Beach counties. Work, along with the owners of 75 stores around the state, joined forces to effectively neuter the pipe ban bill, which had been championed by state Rep. Darryl Rouson (St. Petersburg), who believes getting rid of pipes will stop potheads from smoking their cheeba."

<snip>

"The law Scott signed says a person has to "knowingly and intentionally" sell a pipe for illegal drug use to get arrested for a criminal misdemeanor. A second offense would lead to a third-degree felony. That means a smoke shop owner or employee has to know without a doubt that you intend to buy a pipe for drug use. They can still sell pipes for tobacco purposes only.

"If you come in referencing illegal substances, then we wouldn't sell it to you," says John, an employee of Headquarters Tobacco & Gift Shop in Hialeah. "But that's how we have always operated."

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-06-27/news/florida-bong-ban-rick-scott/

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:30 PM

25. ROFLMAO...

Gov Rick Scott is a moron. Dope smokers will find a way. Believe me I know. I have smoked out of an apple, a tin can, a bong made from a gatorade bottle, a one hitter made from a pen, and when I was really hard up I emptied a cigarette and rolled a joint in the empty paper.

Give a pot smoker some weed and nothing to smoke it out of. They turn into McGuyver.


Any of you down there in Rick Scott's LoonyLand who want to get high come on over to Colorado. We'll show you how to do it.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:33 PM

26. Do they have a bong trade for a gun

 

Much safer than a bong, and you can carry it ANYWHERE you FEEL threatened.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:43 PM

27. Hookah bars are popular down here

Thanks to the large Mid-east population we have.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:44 PM

28. What about people who smoke a pipe with pipe tobacco?

 

they can't buy a pipe either?
This is kookooo

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:52 PM

29. Does Gov. Rick Scott own a lot of stock in the Zig-Zag rolling paper company?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:53 PM

30. Internet Mail-Order Laboratory Glassware and Supplies



http://www.sciplus.com/s/c_11


Or do they want to ban access to the Internet, too...?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:09 PM

34. What if a pipe is not a pipe?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:14 PM

35. As a teenager in the 80's, my friends and I made some epic bongs.

Anybody remember the "gravity bong" using a milk jug and a bucket of water?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:26 PM

36. Don't leave out nuts and bolts

I've seen some cute little pipes made out of nuts and bolts

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