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still_one

(92,061 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:44 AM Jun 2013

Chris Christie Blasts Gay Marriage Rulings

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/chris-christie-gay-marriage_n_3509389.html


"New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) blasted the Supreme Court ruling on the Defense of Marriage Act, calling it "wrong."

"I don’t think the ruling was appropriate," Christie said Thursday on his "Ask the Governor" radio show, according to Politico. "I think it was wrong."

Christie criticized the justices, calling Kennedy's opinion "incredibly insulting" to President Bill Clinton -- who signed DOMA into law in 1996 -- and to the "340-some members of Congress who voted for the Defense of Marriage Act."

"[Kennedy] basically said that the only reason to pass that bill was to demean people," Christie said. "That’s heck of a thing to say about Bill Clinton and about the Republican Congress back in the ‘90s. And it’s just another example of judicial supremacy, rather than having the government run by the people we actually vote for."

In February 2012, Christie rejected a bill allowing same-sex marriage in New Jersey, vetoing the measure and renewing his call for a ballot question to decide the issue."
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Borchkins

(724 posts)
2. No surprise here.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jun 2013

Everybody remember what is at his core when he does something slightly reasonable. He is rotten!
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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
3. CC stands with Bush and Rand/Ron Paul. Why are people fooled by these CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS???
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jun 2013

I am voting for Mary Buono for governor and Cory Booker for Senate, NJ.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
4. He's worried that Bill Clinton might be insulted?
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:52 AM
Jun 2013
really?

Newsflash Chris: You cant suck up to the RW base by considering Bill Clintons feelings.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
13. Actually, this is his way of sucking up to moderates and independents
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jun 2013

If the failures of McCrazed/Failin' and R-Money/Lyin' Ryan have proved anything, it that you can't win on the RW base alone (unless you can stop the LW base from voting).


rocktivity

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
14. But how many moderates and independents are anti-equality?
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jun 2013

I'd guess its a rather small group he's pandering to.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
15. True, but his "willingness" to "support" a Dem makes him look more "flexible"
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jun 2013

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-- and therefore, more electable -- to NON-hardline right wingers. It's the "moderate maverick" game as invented by John McCain, run by both George Bushes, and attempted by Mitt Romney. (What do you think that Hurricane Sandy drama was about?) The problem is, in order to suck up to the rightwing leadership, McCain and Mitt were forced to take on hardliner running mates -- and if Christie gets that far, so will he.


rocktivity

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
18. Right, right. I forgot.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:22 PM
Jun 2013

Its all about the appearances. And who knows, maybe his position will "evolve" by 2016. I keep thinking theres no way Christie will make it past the primaries, but as you pointed out, we could have another Mitt situation. The hard right fractures, Christie ends up the nominee... but now that Rubio is scorned, what winger does he grab? Paul?

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
5. Oh so we have to worry about insulting Congress? The same Congress that
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jun 2013

let Bush railroad the country into two wars at once, while lying his ass off? Or is it the Congress that bailed out bankers while leaving homeowners to fend for themselves when the Wall Street Banksters break the economic back of the country? Maybe he means that Congress that passed the Patriot Act that increased the surveillance state we currently live with? I know, he must mean the Congress that failed to cement the Voting Rights Act into laws that could not and would not be broken by ANY court? But of course, he can't possibly mean the Congress that ignores climate change and the resultant disasters that are of course now subject to the bullshit budget that also failed to pass?

Wow. I'm not sure what I can leave out. Student loans? Education? Health care? Women's health and/or access to reproductive health care? How about election reform?...my list is long.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
6. Good. Let him continue with his rantings. It will just make him all the more unelectable
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jun 2013

if he tries to run in 2016.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I didn't realize
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:56 AM
Jun 2013

"Don't insult Congress" was part of the checks and balances in government. I thought the Supreme Court's role was to determine the legality of legislation that gets passed. Silly me.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
10. Frankly -
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jun 2013

That is what the opinion said, and it was right (although it didn't name names). That was the purpose of the act - to enshrine discrimination against same gender couples in Federal law.

Someone tried to defend it here yesterday based on the rationalization that times were really awful, an amendment banning marriage was going to be sought by the folks on the right so the good liberals had to do something quickly. I didn't accept the rationalization then for enacting a vile law, and I don't accept it now. And I'm glad the opinion clearly names the motivation for enacting that bill - and if it hurts the feelings of the good "liberals" who supported it - that is just fine with me..

0rganism

(23,924 posts)
11. interesting to watch him try to wriggle into position
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
Jun 2013

Everything he does is tainted with the prospect of a presidential candidacy. Here, he's trying to ingratiate himself with the GOP base and Clinton backers simultaneously. He is a completely political animal, i doubt he has a single sincere belief.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
17. He talks about "demeaning" being wrong...
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jun 2013

...but doesn't get around to explaining why or proposing a rational basis for supporting DOMA or Prop 8.

So he's wasting our time again.

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