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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:16 PM Jun 2013

OMG, Zimmerman's lawyers just blew it

they let the prosecution witness review her deposition outside of the jury. now he has no trap to set for her with inconsistencies. I'm watching this with two defense lawyers and they are floored.

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OMG, Zimmerman's lawyers just blew it (Original Post) arely staircase Jun 2013 OP
What do you mean JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #1
they played the tape for her without the jury present arely staircase Jun 2013 #2
Ahh JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #3
You don't think that's going to make the jury even more skeptical? dkf Jun 2013 #4
the jury will never hear them arely staircase Jun 2013 #5
They won't be told what happened? That is messed up. dkf Jun 2013 #7
no the judge allowed them to question her afterwords and said that arely staircase Jun 2013 #9
"They won't be told what happened? That is messed up" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #11
Haven't had to pay much attention due to staying out of trouble thank you. dkf Jun 2013 #23
They blew it earlier Glitterati Jun 2013 #6
CNN says one juror wouldn't even look at her. dkf Jun 2013 #8
CNN still thinks the Presidential race is too close to call Tree-Hugger Jun 2013 #10
LMFAO!!! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #15
DUzy! HappyMe Jun 2013 #17
bwahaha! arely staircase Jun 2013 #20
CNN LOL Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #12
They also said the other 5 were attentive to her. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #14
What was the "inconsistency," and how significant was it? Hoyt Jun 2013 #13
I think it was like "i think it was Treyvon's voice" vs. "It was Treyvon's voice" arely staircase Jun 2013 #18
Thank you. Hoyt Jun 2013 #21
but see ksoze's explanation below arely staircase Jun 2013 #22
No need to play the tape - the jury had it read to them ksoze Jun 2013 #16
ah, gotcha arely staircase Jun 2013 #19
This has nothing to do with HappyMe Jun 2013 #24

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
2. they played the tape for her without the jury present
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jun 2013

and she made some inconsistent statements but the jury wasn't there. they helped the prosecution witness review her testimony and get her story straight.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
4. You don't think that's going to make the jury even more skeptical?
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jun 2013

She changes it now and that shows she doesn't truly remember.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
7. They won't be told what happened? That is messed up.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jun 2013

For all we know maybe they want her to say what is on the tape not whatever she comes up with now.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
9. no the judge allowed them to question her afterwords and said that
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jun 2013

if she made those inconsistencies again in front of the jury then the defense lawyers could point them out in the deposition records. but since they had reviewed them with her already...

and yes it is messed up lawyering - maybe they are already trying to lay an incompetent counsel appeal.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
11. "They won't be told what happened? That is messed up"
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jun 2013

LOL.

As I read more and more of your posts, I really don't think you know how the criminal justice system works.

Perhaps Zimmerman's lawyers can tell the judge..."That is messed up"

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
23. Haven't had to pay much attention due to staying out of trouble thank you.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:48 PM
Jun 2013

I have no desire to be in a court of law ever.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
6. They blew it earlier
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jun 2013

brow beating her and trying to put testimony she didn't give in her mouth made her VERY sympathetic to the jury.

Zimmerman's attorney is coming off as a bully and a jerk. With each passing minute, the jury gets more sympathetic to Rachel.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
18. I think it was like "i think it was Treyvon's voice" vs. "It was Treyvon's voice"
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jun 2013

The defense asked that they go over it with her outside of the jury's presence, then when that came up, they wanted it introduced into evidence, after insisting it not be evidence. Judge wasn't going for it and said the rules of evidence were clear.

I was going in and out of the room, and a couple of lawyers explained it to me quickly. If there are any here who heard it all and can shed some light on it, I would appreciate it.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
16. No need to play the tape - the jury had it read to them
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jun 2013

The issue was whether it was necessary to actually play the tape or if her statements read to her show the inconsistency and it did. The issue was if she did not agree to the deposition, the tape would also impeach her. The point was made to the jury - she gave different answers at different times. The judge would not let the tape be played - it was not the defenses decision.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
24. This has nothing to do with
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jun 2013

your OP, but if Zimmerman lived in that community, wouldn't he have seen Trayvon before, given that Trayvon's dad lived there?

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