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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:16 PM

OMG, Zimmerman's lawyers just blew it

they let the prosecution witness review her deposition outside of the jury. now he has no trap to set for her with inconsistencies. I'm watching this with two defense lawyers and they are floored.

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Reply OMG, Zimmerman's lawyers just blew it (Original post)
arely staircase Jun 2013 OP
JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #1
arely staircase Jun 2013 #2
JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #3
dkf Jun 2013 #4
arely staircase Jun 2013 #5
dkf Jun 2013 #7
arely staircase Jun 2013 #9
Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #11
dkf Jun 2013 #23
Glitterati Jun 2013 #6
dkf Jun 2013 #8
Tree-Hugger Jun 2013 #10
hrmjustin Jun 2013 #15
HappyMe Jun 2013 #17
arely staircase Jun 2013 #20
Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #12
hrmjustin Jun 2013 #14
Hoyt Jun 2013 #13
arely staircase Jun 2013 #18
Hoyt Jun 2013 #21
arely staircase Jun 2013 #22
ksoze Jun 2013 #16
arely staircase Jun 2013 #19
HappyMe Jun 2013 #24

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:18 PM

1. What do you mean

Review her deposition outside of the jury?

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:19 PM

2. they played the tape for her without the jury present

and she made some inconsistent statements but the jury wasn't there. they helped the prosecution witness review her testimony and get her story straight.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:24 PM

3. Ahh

Thanks.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:25 PM

4. You don't think that's going to make the jury even more skeptical?

 

She changes it now and that shows she doesn't truly remember.

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Response to dkf (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:26 PM

5. the jury will never hear them

nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:29 PM

7. They won't be told what happened? That is messed up.

 

For all we know maybe they want her to say what is on the tape not whatever she comes up with now.

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Response to dkf (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:37 PM

9. no the judge allowed them to question her afterwords and said that

if she made those inconsistencies again in front of the jury then the defense lawyers could point them out in the deposition records. but since they had reviewed them with her already...

and yes it is messed up lawyering - maybe they are already trying to lay an incompetent counsel appeal.

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Response to dkf (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:42 PM

11. "They won't be told what happened? That is messed up"

 

LOL.

As I read more and more of your posts, I really don't think you know how the criminal justice system works.

Perhaps Zimmerman's lawyers can tell the judge..."That is messed up"

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:48 PM

23. Haven't had to pay much attention due to staying out of trouble thank you.

 

I have no desire to be in a court of law ever.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:29 PM

6. They blew it earlier

 

brow beating her and trying to put testimony she didn't give in her mouth made her VERY sympathetic to the jury.

Zimmerman's attorney is coming off as a bully and a jerk. With each passing minute, the jury gets more sympathetic to Rachel.

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:30 PM

8. CNN says one juror wouldn't even look at her.

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:40 PM

10. CNN still thinks the Presidential race is too close to call

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Response to Tree-Hugger (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:20 PM

15. LMFAO!!!

 

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Response to Tree-Hugger (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:32 PM

17. DUzy!




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Response to Tree-Hugger (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:36 PM

20. bwahaha!

good one

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Response to dkf (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:42 PM

12. CNN LOL

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:19 PM

14. They also said the other 5 were attentive to her.

 

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:15 PM

13. What was the "inconsistency," and how significant was it?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:33 PM

18. I think it was like "i think it was Treyvon's voice" vs. "It was Treyvon's voice"

The defense asked that they go over it with her outside of the jury's presence, then when that came up, they wanted it introduced into evidence, after insisting it not be evidence. Judge wasn't going for it and said the rules of evidence were clear.

I was going in and out of the room, and a couple of lawyers explained it to me quickly. If there are any here who heard it all and can shed some light on it, I would appreciate it.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:38 PM

21. Thank you.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:39 PM

22. but see ksoze's explanation below

I may not be describing it all correctly.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:28 PM

16. No need to play the tape - the jury had it read to them

The issue was whether it was necessary to actually play the tape or if her statements read to her show the inconsistency and it did. The issue was if she did not agree to the deposition, the tape would also impeach her. The point was made to the jury - she gave different answers at different times. The judge would not let the tape be played - it was not the defenses decision.

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Response to ksoze (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:34 PM

19. ah, gotcha

I was told they f-ed up. maybe not.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:50 PM

24. This has nothing to do with

your OP, but if Zimmerman lived in that community, wouldn't he have seen Trayvon before, given that Trayvon's dad lived there?

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