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[font size=3]After public outing for posting false information, agency removes "fact sheet" from website[/font]
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Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall released a public letter Monday declaring the "fact sheet" to be significantly inaccurate because it, "portrays protections for Americans' privacy being significantly stronger than they actually are."
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Senators Wyden and Udall are calling for the NSA to publicly admit to the falsehood, declaring, "When the NSA makes inaccurate statements about government surveillance and fails to correct the public record, it can decrease public confidence in the NSA's openness."
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/06/26-3
Turns out, there is a BIG problem with all those "FACTS" defending the NSA Spying Programs
that were paraded around DU last week.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)...have you ever heard of a double decker?
Well the facts are that a conversation was overheard between Snowden and Greenwald that revealed they had a contest to see how many Democratic rest rooms they could leave one in...
http://www.soslang.com/term/double-decker
xchrom
(108,903 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)There are STILL people using this now officially debunked "Fact Sheet" to attack
DUers who are concerned about our 4th Amendment and Out-of-Control Government Spying/Surveillance/Security Apparatus.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)And shameless, too- they're still claiming we're not being lied to.
There hasn't been a point in this discussion that we WEREN'T being lied to, and they have the gall to say we're wrong for asking for verification...
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And Greenwald has irs issues...heavens help us
Hydra
(14,459 posts)I saw a thread where they were crowing that Snowden is trapped in Russia. If he'd stayed here in the US, those people would have been part of the lynch mob.
In a way, I'm glad they're here on DU though- they're like the personal emissaries of the establishment, and they're showcasing just how ugly and just plain evil the currently policies and the people who are pushing them are.
That's not the America I want to live in.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...that so clearly and dramatically revealed the separation between those who are here as honest brokers of information and discussion,
and those who are here to protect The 1% Establishment at ANY cost.
There have been many issues where large segments of DU disagreed with each other,
but there has always been some legitimate basis for differing opinions,
but not this time.
The divide is crystal clear.
There are those few standing WITH Power, the dissolution of the Bill of Rights,
the ability of our Government to SPY on us and LIE to us (for our own good, of course),
and there are those standing up for Transparency, a government subordinate to the citizens, and what is left of our Democracy.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)that the flow can't be contained much long no matter how many knobs they turn or how many pipes they Rube Goldberg to try to stop it.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Ari Fleischer was right.
Americans need to "Watch what you say",
and some here are cool with that.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Good heavens! Those two are so ridiculous they had little chances of working
sibelian
(7,804 posts)There's a big "do you trust the government" thread going on here in GD. I'd suggest a link or two to this thread in that one...
siligut
(12,272 posts)But after the plan is complete, activists won't matter.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)K&R