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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:01 PM

Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates NSA Whistleblowers

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-klein/?cid=co9260244

NSA Leak Vindicates AT&T Whistleblower
Today’s revelations that the National Security Agency collected bulk data on the email traffic of millions of Americans provides startling evidence for the first time to support a whistleblower’s longstanding claims that AT&T was forwarding global internet traffic to the government from secret rooms inside its offices.

The collection program, which lasted from 2001 to 2011, involved email metadata — the “enveloped” information for email that reveals the sender’s address and recipient, as well as IP addresses and websites visited, the Guardian newspaper reported today.

Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, revealed in 2006 that his job duties included connecting internet circuits to a splitting cabinet that led to a secret room in AT&T’s San Francisco office. During the course of that work, he learned from a co-worker that similar cabins were being installed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego, he said.

The split circuits included traffic from peering links connecting to other internet backbone providers, meaning that AT&T was also diverting traffic routed from its network to or from other domestic and international providers, Klein said.


Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates One Of The Original NSA Whistleblowers

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-whistleblower-william-binney-was-right-2013-6#ixzz2XSbM53pC

William Binney — one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in National Security Agency (NSA) history — worked for America's premier covert intelligence gathering organization for 32 years before resigning in late 2001 because he "could not stay after the NSA began purposefully violating the Constitution."

Binney claims that the NSA took one of the programs he built, known as ThinThread, and started using the program and members of his team to spy on virtually every U.S. citizen under the code-name Stellar Wind.

Thanks to NSA whistleblower/leaker Edward Snowden, documents detailing the top-secret surveillance program have now been published for the first time.

And they corroborate what Binney has said for years.


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Reply Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates NSA Whistleblowers (Original post)
Luminous Animal Jun 2013 OP
Catherina Jun 2013 #1
think Jun 2013 #2
cantbeserious Jun 2013 #5
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3
KoKo Jun 2013 #6
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #8
Kolesar Jun 2013 #27
spooky3 Jun 2013 #18
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19
fascisthunter Jun 2013 #12
BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #13
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #20
limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #16
railsback Jun 2013 #4
KoKo Jun 2013 #7
Bonobo Jun 2013 #9
bvar22 Jun 2013 #30
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #29
Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #10
WillyT Jun 2013 #11
fascisthunter Jun 2013 #14
burnodo Jun 2013 #15
TransitJohn Jun 2013 #17
uponit7771 Jun 2013 #21
backscatter712 Jun 2013 #22
Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #23
auntsue Jun 2013 #24
nahant Jun 2013 #25
NealK Jun 2013 #26
reusrename Jun 2013 #28
woo me with science Jun 2013 #31

Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:08 PM

1. These men, all of them, deserve a medal. I hope they got one one day. n/t

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Response to Catherina (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:14 PM

2. +1. Telling the truth and exposing Govt corruption are American values worth honoring /nt

 

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Response to think (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:52 PM

5. Too Sad That TV Propaganda Has So Dulled The American Sensibility

eom

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:00 PM

6. Wow...have NO IDEA how to reply to that revelation...

because it gets into conflicting territory. This is disturbing...but, hard to not feel that there's more there than we know and that we don't wan't to Jump On This...too soon.

What did YOU think of it Nadin...? But...if you are like me...you'd probably want to see how it plays out a bit before commenting.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:05 PM

8. Well we know Stuxnet did get lose and did a lot of damage

 

to allied companies and countries in the Gulf region.

We have known somebody leaked the news for a few years, not who.

So it raises way too many questions... it is in parallel to all this. The actual leak is actually old news, the leaker is very surprising... a four star? you mean brass? Now that is heavy.

And one who was part of the program to begin with.

The cyber attack was essentially a cyber pearl harbor, the kind that Keith Alexander fears in the US... of course hard to claim victim status when you opened fire first.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 06:04 AM

27. Stuxnet attacked ONLY one uranium centrifuge.

If you have something that counters that fact, I would like to see it.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:51 PM

18. Rachel just reported it too.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:54 PM

19. It is MSNBC who broke it in the morning

 

just the Vice Chairman of the Joints Chiefs... nobody.

This will be one to watch.

Now time to write that immigration story.

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Response to Catherina (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:21 PM

12. And some day they may just get it

 

it's what scares the shit out of those supporting our current policies.

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Response to Catherina (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:32 PM

13. Russ Tice...Google Him

 

Russ Tice WILL BE VINDICATED....Obama and many federal judges and Congressional members are being blackmailed by NSA and the military...in my opinion.

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Response to BehindTheCurtain76 (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:55 PM

20. Among them one President Obama

 

I got reason to believe that my large block of salt on that story went down to a single grain.

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Response to Catherina (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:43 PM

16. +2

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:42 PM

4. Greenwald exposes NSA updating programs

 

From Excel 2000 to Excel 2010!

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Response to railsback (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:01 PM

7. Really.. Do you have a LINK? Otherwise why should what you say be taken

seriously except for a "LOL" for your snark.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:12 PM

9. He tried the same thing with me... it was hilarious.

You should read the exchange of about 5 messages for a good laugh.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3108920

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:22 PM

30. I nailed him on his unsupported spew of BS in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023108712

...starting at Post#14.

The guy is a bad joke.
He's got No Game at all.
Even the kindergarten attempts at snark are an embarrassing fail.

My wife later read this segment,
and was mad at me for "Beating Up on a child."
In a way, she is right.
Some people are just better suited for the Beavis & Butthead ChatRoom at AOL.

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Response to railsback (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:04 AM

29. Looks like you're into the Desperation Phase, when denial no longer works. Next phase of course is

 

the Lash Out Phase.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:55 PM

10. Kick.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:08 PM

11. K & R !!!

 


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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:40 PM

14. K&R for this country we love

 

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:40 PM

15. K&R

 

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:48 PM

17. Buncha racists.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:58 PM

21. I don't believe ANYTHING Greenwald says, not a damn thing. I'm also not taking what these people

...say at face value no matter WHO is in office now because they'll do crap like Greenwald did with Prism; not get the technology intentions correct and report them at their worst for the sake of hating on whatever admin

The credibilty of whistlblower reporters has gone to crap because of greenwald

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:58 PM

22. B-b-b-but SNOOOWDEN's not credible!!!

Even though his disclosures have been verified from other sources...

The ratfuckers here on DU are completely shameless.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:00 PM

23. This is good that this stream of infromation is coming

out now. I hope more surfaces to add more layers of evidence because there are still some in the American public that haven't decided which side of this issue they should be on.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:03 PM

24. remember the film "Enemy of the State"?

When it came out I told my sister............ I'll bet this is all true. I think I was right !!!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:04 PM

25. Old NEWS

I knew as soon as I heard about the "Splitters" that all internet traffic was being scooped up by the NSA.. but of course they denied denied any such thing.. This shit has to be stopped!1

Ohy yeah I worked in networks systems Admin for 25 yearso I do know exactly what was being done to all of our electronic communications.. Guess the USPS is still the best way to send a private message..

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:39 PM

26. K&R

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:08 AM

28. I can't remember if this is impossible, or if it's something we already knew.

 

Baloney or old news, which is it again?

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