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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:26 PM

'Man of Steel' filled with Jesus, Christianity references (Fox News - LOL)

It’s a bird. It’s a plane. No, it’s … Jesus?

There is some Christ-like imagery planted throughout “Man of Steel.” One blaring symbol occurs during a climactic battle: Superman jumps from General Zod’s (Michael Shannon) ship and hovers in the sky with his arms out-stretched like the crucifix. Freeze-frame it and you can have your own Superman prayer card.



Kal-El says he is 33, a not-too-subtle reference to the same age as Jesus Christ when he was crucified.



The Passion of Superman. Kal-El is more than willing to sacrifice himself to save the people of Earth. Originally reluctant to reveal his identity and powers to the world, Supes decides to turn himself over to Zod to save humanity from annihilation.




Jonathan Kent (Kevin Costner), Clark’s adoptive father, is somewhat like Jesus’ adoptive dad, Joseph. Both are tradesmen: Joseph a carpenter, Jonathan a farmer. Superman’s ship (or manger, if you will) is even kept in the Kent’s stable.



And finally, don’t forget the Holy Trinity. Jor-El returns to Kal-El on Earth as a ghost, guiding his budding superhero son on his journey to salvation. Before Jor-El sends his son off to Earth baby Moses-style, he tells his wife that, like Jesus, “He’ll be a god to them.” With Superman’s seemingly invincible powers, he is.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/06/14/man-steel-filled-with-jesus-christianity-references/#ixzz2XShD62D4

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Reply 'Man of Steel' filled with Jesus, Christianity references (Fox News - LOL) (Original post)
underpants Jun 2013 OP
mucifer Jun 2013 #1
underpants Jun 2013 #3
MichaelKelley Jun 2013 #29
Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #2
Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #7
MicaelS Jun 2013 #19
Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #20
Phlem Jun 2013 #4
NoGOPZone Jun 2013 #5
REP Jun 2013 #10
NoGOPZone Jun 2013 #11
REP Jun 2013 #13
NoGOPZone Jun 2013 #15
Initech Jun 2013 #14
AFJROTCcadetEcho Jun 2013 #6
zbdent Jun 2013 #8
Recursion Jun 2013 #9
baldguy Jun 2013 #12
Aristus Jun 2013 #16
Posteritatis Jun 2013 #17
MicaelS Jun 2013 #18
sibelian Jun 2013 #21
Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #22
uppityperson Jun 2013 #23
me b zola Jun 2013 #24
LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #25
Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #27
Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #26
Kolesar Jun 2013 #28
Deep13 Jun 2013 #30
MrScorpio Jun 2013 #31
Ilsa Jun 2013 #32

Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:29 PM

1. The creators of the original Superman comic book were Jewish.

Just sayin'

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:44 PM

3. Intro of the article

When Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster created their iconic comic book hero Superman in 1938, their character wasn’t just a representation of “Truth, Justice and the American Way,” but for many, a metaphor for Jewish immigrants in 1930s America. Created by two young Jewish men, Superman was an allusion to the Jewish faith and history, from his baby Moses-like origins to his golem-esque invincibility, to his outcast status and his ultimate struggle to assimilate in a new land.

But somewhere along his journey since 1938, Kal-El converted to Christianity, which is no more evident than in Zack Snyder’s current “Man of Steel.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/06/14/man-steel-filled-with-jesus-christianity-references/#ixzz2XSnFG6p6

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:45 AM

29. HI friends

I have not given a thought to these things that you have mentioned here as I was enjoying the movie and I must say that I have enjoyed it a lot. We should not relate any religion with some movie as they are meant for entertainment and for that directors use something like this for making it like real.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:33 PM

2. Okaaaaayyy,

whatever, they want to believe........

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:11 PM

7. They are right on this as far as JC

is concerned. The imagery is blatant, but it is such a piss poor movie that it fails completely to translate what that may mean in regards to the character. Great effects, terrible story.

But the Christ imagery in MoS is so obvious you roll your eyes...

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Response to Maximumnegro (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:22 PM

19. It was the same way in Superman: The Movie n/t

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Response to Maximumnegro (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:44 AM

20. Well,

If it was, I must have missed it, but then I really wasn't looking to make that link, so again whatever works for them.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:46 PM

4. Prometheus also had

biblical reference weaved through out it. The Maya 2 Character Animation (ISBN: 0-7357-0866-5) has a great section on the three act process. If you get a copy of it grab it, I use it more for the 3 act process reference than the actual animation information.

Cheers!

-p

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:54 PM

5. Meh, as pop culture Jesuses go

I'll take Klaatu. I'm also surprised Fox isn't complaining that Jor-El sounds Islamic.

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:50 PM

10. 'El' is Hebrew for god

Immanu'el = god is with us

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Response to REP (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:13 PM

11. It's also a common transcription of the Arabic word for 'the'

along with 'al'

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:45 PM

13. Why not Spanish, then?

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Response to REP (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:08 PM

15. sure, whatever make you happy

my point was that Arabic names whose English translation contains 'El' and a hyphen, such as Mohammed El-Bakkar, are not uncommon, and with Fox's paranoia about supposed threats to Christianity I speculated they would see something sinister Jor-El.

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:49 PM

14. Al Jor'El

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:07 PM

6. Republican propaganda

 

American version of Triumph of the Will!

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:44 PM

8. and there are the same number of letters in JFK as there in Abe ...

co-inkidinkie? I don't think so ...

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:46 PM

9. I read a good piece years ago about Superman as the Golem

I can't seem to find it anymore, though.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:36 PM

12. Superman has always been presented as a Christ Figure.

 

From the title Jesus Christ Superstar to the repackaging of the Superman mythos as Godspell:



to Superman's death & resurrection.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:16 PM

16. Or Jor-El's speech to Kal-El in the Richard Donner 'Superman'.

"They can be a great people...if they wish to be. They only lack the light to show them the way. For this reason, above all others: their capacity for good, I have sent them you, my only son..."

How Messianic is that?

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Response to Aristus (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:18 PM

17. Yeah, the imagery has never exactly been subtle. (nt)

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Response to Aristus (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:21 PM

18. Absolutely correct, this is nothing new.

It has always been this way.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:51 AM

21. Apparently some real christians aren't very happy with that idea - "Superman is the Antichrist"


http://io9.com/is-superman-the-antichrist-602205837

Sorry, this probably isn't the most useful link, I was reading this this morning.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:00 AM

22. Ummm...Jesus was a Jew. Jus' saying!

LOL!

Wow, leave it to Fox to pull some BS like this.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:03 AM

23. Nope, try this graphic. Man of Blue Steel....

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:13 AM

24. Yeah, the producer is a nutter

She's a christian adopter who thinks the story is about adoption. Ick.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:52 AM

25. I haven't seen it yet

But that article is from Faux News -_-

Based on what I know from the comics it sounds like they are reaching a bit more than usual.

Its possible, again I have not seen the movie, but the evidence they cite are far from convincing. For instance, Goyer like Superman's creators is Jewish.

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The part about the cross, every superhero I have ever seen flies like that. The Kents being his adoptive parents is a part of his origin, non-violence is not solely a christian trait (almost all heroes are depicted that way), the natural birth and ghost of his father does not sound anything like Christianity references to me, and Yeshua of Nazareth would not go to a priest for advice but would rather advise the priest.

I am not saying that it is not possible that this might be what the directors intended, but It sounds like a stretch. Maybe when I do get the chance to see it I can understand better, but for now it sounds like faux news is just trying to drum up sales among its viewers to me.

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:56 AM

27. There's article posted up above..


short story - it's not in the comics, but in the newest movie, it is blatant. Fox is not the only one saying so.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:55 AM

26. Our gods wear Spandex...

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:42 AM

28. 33 is a secret reference to Rolling Rock

Pale Ale, Latrobe, Pennsylvania

In a segment on NPR, they noted that the movie promoters are creating this Super-Jesus-man hype.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 06:05 AM

30. I actually thought it was rather obvious.

When Clark first puts on the suit to talk to army guys, it looked an awful lot like the transfiguration. The meeting at the end with the doubting Thomas of an officer was an awful lot like post resurrection scene in one of the Gospels. And of course the whole theme of Clark being the salvation of humanity and his holiness through suffering was spread pretty thickly too.

Don't forget. There are only about a dozen really different story themes and that of the Christ figure is one of the best known in the Western world. In point of fact, the Bryan Singer Superman movie was also heavily laid with Christian themes.

I'm not a believer, but I thought this movie was fantastic.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 06:10 AM

31. Any comic book fan above the age of six could had said the same thing

Superman has always been a Christ surrogate.

Fox is just finding this out now?

Where the hell have they been

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:33 AM

32. With less symbolism, and grossly, you could say the same about

Harry Potter. He was a powerful figure who arose from the dead to save wizards from an evil, powerful wizard. there are fewer linkages to Christianity, but there is still some similarities in theme about good vs evil and fulfilling a destiny.

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