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There are still plenty of racist Obama-haters. I was on the phone with one tonight
It was yet another evening of cold-calling in the political wilderness, peering into the mists to see who's out there
Tonight I found a few who were way waaaaay out there
I usually manage to end these conversations quickly and pleasantly
But tonight, my dedication to ending one conversation pleasantly kept me from ending it as quickly as I would have liked
And boy! did I get a big off-topic earful of angry stereotypes!
He told me his vote had become meaningless, due to thousands of instances of voter fraud: It's all those Mexicans who are coming up here! Illegal immigrants are voting everywhere! And all those black ladies who voted for Obama three and four times! That's why Obama has been able to run this country into the ground!
I thanked him for his time. Then I thanked him for his time again -- and then again
He finally calmed down -- and the conversation ended politely: I hoped he had a great evening, and he hoped the same for me
But I know there really is racism out there, and it's really part-and-parcel of the anti-Obama sentiment
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sometimes. We did get lucky though, twice now 
That's when it's at it's best, not many are making calls like your are now! 
Gushing fountain, no, more like a volcano gushing red hot crazy. The voices in their heads tell them to scream!
I reported in October the building insanity:
Sadly, I have a relative in Texas who moved to Glennbeckistan in 2010. Batshit crazy is unpleasant.
She was pro-same-sex rights, pro-choice, tolerant of all religions, etc. She went to the same schools I did, learned all the same things, I think. Didn't attend college, though.
Was always a bit selfish and irritating, but I never paid it any mind as her husband is quite nice. I was used to her remarkable insensitivity in social situations and a bit of cruelty in her desire to get ahead of others.
The first signs of insanity were in the Bush era and then in 2008, when she yelled that someone needed to 'Kill Ron Paul!' for not going along with the Bush wars. She knew I'd be voting Democratic, but didn't say a thing about it.
In 2010 she went off her rocker for good. I never realized politics would be so destructive to the family. It's impossible to have a conversation in which she doesn't bring up her extreme fear and rage over what she thinks Obama is doing.
She is unaffected in any way by the political scene, except what's in her mind. She and her husband are being well taken care of by VA and SS. She is sure it's all going away because of Obama, Mooslims, Mezikans, Communism, whatever.
It's a form of free-floating anxiety. The feeling is there looking for a cause. It's like a death in the family but it's worse. Most of my life in Texas from childhood was under progressive rule, more so than much of the country. It was solid Democratic until Ann Richards lost to the Shrub.
The Bush team with DeLay had a vicious plan and used Texas as an experiment. Religion was the first key to prey upon people. It changed in my lifetime.
Those who like to pat themselves on the back, thinking Texas is genetically doomed to be forced to live with wingnuttery are fooling themselves, because the model to destroy the Democratic Party in Texas in now national. I live in a very blue state, and they are gaining ground here now.
Here's that map for you. Need a laugh to keep your spirits up. Let's see if we can repeat 2008.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251145022#post50
Things actually turned out just fine:
The saga continued the week before the November election, right after Jerry Brown made illegals get driver licenses:
I was busy yesterday, then returned a call to a teabag relative who proceeded to go all Glennbeckistan on me. I didn't know that this article is what spurred the insanity for yesterday!
She was ranting about 'Obama going to foreign countries' making deals on importing millions of Mexicans to win elections. Said how they were are all being given driver licenses, put on welfare, so of course they would all vote for Democrats!
To which I said, we don't do that up here (upper Left Coast blue state) and you should talk to your Governor Perry about it being done down there. I went into how we didn't have many illegals except in the red areas where they're used for cheap labor.
She wanted to know why, and I said we are not a Right-to-Work (for less) state, our legislature doesn't give welfare to illegals, nor licenses, nor do they vote. She was mildly comforted at that idea, wasn't sure if Texas was doing it, but didn't bring up California at all. I doubt she knew.
I tried to shift the conversation over to a friend who'd just paid off her home and retired, put on solat panels, etc. That we were also making use of wind power and hydroelectric, etc. and our light company is non-profit. She said it'll never work in Texas, and I pointed out the large amount of wind turbines in the west part of the state I'd seen and even talked to those putting them up.
She said that had not worked out, but I said it had for those I knew who built them for their farms and used them to get off the grid. I suggested that with all that sunshine in Texas, it could lead the way with solar power. She said the weather was too bad. I remarked since we have 310+ million people and are predicted to have many more people by the turn of the century, we'll have to try harder.
That led her back to blaming that increase on illegal Mexicans having millions of babies on welfare so the Democrats would win elections. So she finally began to froth at the mouth, talking about how 'this isn't the country I grew up in!' and 'this is a Christian Nation, and 'if they don't like it they can go back to where they came from!'
I started to say that most Mexicans are Christians, but she was on a roll. Warmed up, she yelled, 'We can't take four more years of Obama turning us into Communism!' Grammatically incorrect, but what do you expect?
Mind you, her hubby, the sane one of the pair, is on Social Security and VA disability. She's been excited about going on Social Security herself, and their medical care is government supported and very good.
When she got louder about Obama, she yelled at me saying, wasn't I was scared about him getting re-elected? To which I said, 'No, I'm not worried about it at all. No one up here is.' That's when the frothing began, how could I not be concerned about how he will end this nation and she pulled out her final verbal weapon...
How Obama is bringing in Sharia Law!!!. Finally rounded up with 'If I have to, I'll take up arms, although I've never fired a gun, and I'll kill anyone who tries to do it.'
At that point I had to bite my tongue and not say if she'd just stay home, no one would notice her and no one was coming to get her to convert. Actually I think she'd look cuter in a burka than that sofa throw cover she walks around in.
Somewhere in the middle of the diatribe, she also went into how she's met people in the Tea Party, that the media is lying about them, they are really nice and never rude or violent like the Occupy people. Who she said are running loose raping people, defecating everywhere, drunk and scumbags, etc. (Shades of Breitbart.)
I thought she was coming back to Sanity a while back after the 47% uproar, but hate radio and FOX has pulled her right back into her alternative reality, and it's really scary. What a weird way to end the evening. Fortunately, her husband got her off the phone...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021449535#post15
Did your citizen sound anything like that?
I reported in October the building insanity:
Sadly, I have a relative in Texas who moved to Glennbeckistan in 2010. Batshit crazy is unpleasant.
She was pro-same-sex rights, pro-choice, tolerant of all religions, etc. She went to the same schools I did, learned all the same things, I think. Didn't attend college, though.
Was always a bit selfish and irritating, but I never paid it any mind as her husband is quite nice. I was used to her remarkable insensitivity in social situations and a bit of cruelty in her desire to get ahead of others.
The first signs of insanity were in the Bush era and then in 2008, when she yelled that someone needed to 'Kill Ron Paul!' for not going along with the Bush wars. She knew I'd be voting Democratic, but didn't say a thing about it.
In 2010 she went off her rocker for good. I never realized politics would be so destructive to the family. It's impossible to have a conversation in which she doesn't bring up her extreme fear and rage over what she thinks Obama is doing.
She is unaffected in any way by the political scene, except what's in her mind. She and her husband are being well taken care of by VA and SS. She is sure it's all going away because of Obama, Mooslims, Mezikans, Communism, whatever.
It's a form of free-floating anxiety. The feeling is there looking for a cause. It's like a death in the family but it's worse. Most of my life in Texas from childhood was under progressive rule, more so than much of the country. It was solid Democratic until Ann Richards lost to the Shrub.
The Bush team with DeLay had a vicious plan and used Texas as an experiment. Religion was the first key to prey upon people. It changed in my lifetime.
Those who like to pat themselves on the back, thinking Texas is genetically doomed to be forced to live with wingnuttery are fooling themselves, because the model to destroy the Democratic Party in Texas in now national. I live in a very blue state, and they are gaining ground here now.
Here's that map for you. Need a laugh to keep your spirits up. Let's see if we can repeat 2008.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251145022#post50
Things actually turned out just fine:
The saga continued the week before the November election, right after Jerry Brown made illegals get driver licenses:
I was busy yesterday, then returned a call to a teabag relative who proceeded to go all Glennbeckistan on me. I didn't know that this article is what spurred the insanity for yesterday!
She was ranting about 'Obama going to foreign countries' making deals on importing millions of Mexicans to win elections. Said how they were are all being given driver licenses, put on welfare, so of course they would all vote for Democrats!
To which I said, we don't do that up here (upper Left Coast blue state) and you should talk to your Governor Perry about it being done down there. I went into how we didn't have many illegals except in the red areas where they're used for cheap labor.
She wanted to know why, and I said we are not a Right-to-Work (for less) state, our legislature doesn't give welfare to illegals, nor licenses, nor do they vote. She was mildly comforted at that idea, wasn't sure if Texas was doing it, but didn't bring up California at all. I doubt she knew.
I tried to shift the conversation over to a friend who'd just paid off her home and retired, put on solat panels, etc. That we were also making use of wind power and hydroelectric, etc. and our light company is non-profit. She said it'll never work in Texas, and I pointed out the large amount of wind turbines in the west part of the state I'd seen and even talked to those putting them up.
She said that had not worked out, but I said it had for those I knew who built them for their farms and used them to get off the grid. I suggested that with all that sunshine in Texas, it could lead the way with solar power. She said the weather was too bad. I remarked since we have 310+ million people and are predicted to have many more people by the turn of the century, we'll have to try harder.
That led her back to blaming that increase on illegal Mexicans having millions of babies on welfare so the Democrats would win elections. So she finally began to froth at the mouth, talking about how 'this isn't the country I grew up in!' and 'this is a Christian Nation, and 'if they don't like it they can go back to where they came from!'
I started to say that most Mexicans are Christians, but she was on a roll. Warmed up, she yelled, 'We can't take four more years of Obama turning us into Communism!' Grammatically incorrect, but what do you expect?
Mind you, her hubby, the sane one of the pair, is on Social Security and VA disability. She's been excited about going on Social Security herself, and their medical care is government supported and very good.
When she got louder about Obama, she yelled at me saying, wasn't I was scared about him getting re-elected? To which I said, 'No, I'm not worried about it at all. No one up here is.' That's when the frothing began, how could I not be concerned about how he will end this nation and she pulled out her final verbal weapon...
How Obama is bringing in Sharia Law!!!. Finally rounded up with 'If I have to, I'll take up arms, although I've never fired a gun, and I'll kill anyone who tries to do it.'
At that point I had to bite my tongue and not say if she'd just stay home, no one would notice her and no one was coming to get her to convert. Actually I think she'd look cuter in a burka than that sofa throw cover she walks around in.
Somewhere in the middle of the diatribe, she also went into how she's met people in the Tea Party, that the media is lying about them, they are really nice and never rude or violent like the Occupy people. Who she said are running loose raping people, defecating everywhere, drunk and scumbags, etc. (Shades of Breitbart.)
I thought she was coming back to Sanity a while back after the 47% uproar, but hate radio and FOX has pulled her right back into her alternative reality, and it's really scary. What a weird way to end the evening. Fortunately, her husband got her off the phone...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021449535#post15
Did your citizen sound anything like that?
