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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:45 PM Jun 2013

I think it's important for people to utilize credible sources.

Somebody who thinks the CIA was behind the Boston bombing is not a credible source.

P.S.

The US government did not assassinate Michael Hastings by remotely taking control of his car and deliberately crashing it.

Thank you for your time and have a great weekend!

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I think it's important for people to utilize credible sources. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 OP
CTers don't care about sources zappaman Jun 2013 #1
Did some government agency put you up to this? Squinch Jun 2013 #2
Yup Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #13
Also important for people to know how things work REP Jun 2013 #3
seems like we're one_voice Jun 2013 #4
You need to visit CREATIVE SPECULATION zappaman Jun 2013 #5
You should have seen things here it was kicked into the dungeon. longship Jun 2013 #6
This might be my favorite 9/11 thread of all time... zappaman Jun 2013 #7
OMFG! The chicken wire CT defense again! longship Jun 2013 #8
Oh dear. Um. Ok. Um. Oh dear. uppityperson Jun 2013 #14
Speechless... one_voice Jun 2013 #17
I guess it's ProSense Jun 2013 #12
It is an interesting premise. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #9
"Even a blind squirrel will find a nut occasionally. " ProSense Jun 2013 #10
So for you it is the messenger over the message? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #22
For every nut that blind squirrel finds, though, he'll break five teeth on rocks! randome Jun 2013 #16
There are degrees of credibility. mattclearing Jun 2013 #11
There are CIA connections to the Boston bombing. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #15
This is an open forum felix_numinous Jun 2013 #18
"The US government did not assassinate Michael Hastings by remotely taking control of his car and rhett o rick Jun 2013 #19
And your "credible source" is what? 99Forever Jun 2013 #20
As Michael Parenti quipped, you can call me a conspiracy theorist if HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #21

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
1. CTers don't care about sources
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jun 2013

I have seen them here link to hate sites just because the author agreed with whatever kooky theory they have.

And yes, citing a guy for anything who thinks the CIA was behind the bombing in Boston is ridiculous.

REP

(21,691 posts)
3. Also important for people to know how things work
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jun 2013

Like cars. And how car "hacking" is done (with a physical device plugged into the car - not by remote death-dealing magic).

I gues it could be summed up with RTFM FFS.

(I agree with you)

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
4. seems like we're
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jun 2013

coo-coo for cocoa puffs underground.

I'm waiting for someone to post some 9/11 truther shit and someone actually defending it as legit and mainstream. I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I'm seeing.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. I guess it's
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jun 2013

"I'm waiting for someone to post some 9/11 truther shit and someone actually defending it as legit and mainstream. I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I'm seeing."

...all good. Kooks and racists, as long as they support the person's point of view.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3113928

What next: Storm Front on civil rights?

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
9. It is an interesting premise.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jun 2013

Obviously the tabloids are not credible. Yet it was the National Enquirer that broke the story on the fat fucker Limbaugh's drug addiction. Now that doesn't mean I buy/read the tabloids. It does mean I am not so quick to dismiss just because of the source. After all. Even a blind squirrel will find a nut occasionally.

For me, it is the information, the message over messenger.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. "Even a blind squirrel will find a nut occasionally. "
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jun 2013

That's an interesting way of framing credibility.

I guess the RW is in pursuit of such a "nut"

"Global warming is a hoax"

"Obama is a Muslim from Kenya."

Make wildy absurd bullshit claims and sort of the facts later. Who knows, kernels and all?

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
22. So for you it is the messenger over the message?
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jun 2013

Perhaps we can work with that. Perhaps we can move to create an approved news source. One that provides news that is only authorized or quotable news source. We can call the newspaper Truth. Yes, we'll call it The Truth, and that will be the only news source we can read or quote from. Excellent idea.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. For every nut that blind squirrel finds, though, he'll break five teeth on rocks!
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jun 2013

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[font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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mattclearing

(10,091 posts)
11. There are degrees of credibility.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:49 PM
Jun 2013

Plenty of "credible" journalism turns out to be utter bullshit, and less-established outlets break major stories which so-called legitimate sources ignore all the time.

All journalism comes from fallible people with biases and blind spots. A publication's credibility relies mainly on the combination of its writers', fact-checkers', and editors' ability to accurately and neutrally inform. It's not a profitable thing, which is why it doesn't happen very often these days.

My point is that if someone can demonstrate that they have a FOIA documenting something, that is probably not utter bullshit. Also, while the article your seem to be referring to did insinuate a connection between military contractors and the Boston bombing, it was worded so as to leave room for doubt.

It's a crazy world. The best advice I can give is to read everything skeptically, and use your head.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
15. There are CIA connections to the Boston bombing.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:27 PM
Jun 2013

However, I am not saying the CIA did it.

I will post a source this weekend.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
18. This is an open forum
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jun 2013

and as long as someone writes, "In my opinion', 'I think', or 'I believe' instead of speaking in absolutes, I don't have a problem understanding the conversation. This is a discussion board, so opinions are part of it.

I get excited and write in absolutes sometimes, but I try not to Thank you for the appeal for clarity, it helps.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. "The US government did not assassinate Michael Hastings by remotely taking control of his car and
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jun 2013

deliberately crashing it." And you you are so positive how? What is your source? Sounds to me like you're speculating. Maybe even creative speculation.

One difference between a liberal and a conservative is that a conservative is always certain. "I am certain that the government doesnt spy on us or do anything else that I dont like. I am positive about that and I love my fearless leader."

I say that it looks like a terrible accident that killed Michael Hastings. But I will not overrule foul play. I choose to keep an open mind until I learn more. And I am disappointed in those that claim to be "politically liberal people" and yet close their minds to other explanations. I see their rush to cover up any possible irregularity as fear of the truth. Fear to the point that they will disparage Michael Hastings hours after his death to try to discourage discussion. These are conservatives and they belong in the Republican Party with the other authoritarians.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
21. As Michael Parenti quipped, you can call me a conspiracy theorist if
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:29 PM
Jun 2013

I can call you a coincidence theorist.

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