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When is enough going to be enough (Original Post) sheshe2 Jun 2013 OP
That would be just the opposite Cha Jun 2013 #1
Good evening Cha~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #6
I voted for Democrats but somehow I got Republicans like Clapper and Mueller rhett o rick Jun 2013 #40
VERY sorry its too late for my daughters, ages 25 and 28, to move to Nordic countries; elleng Jun 2013 #2
Hi elleng sheshe2 Jun 2013 #4
Thanks, she2. elleng Jun 2013 #5
~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #8
Big ass K and R. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #3
Good to see you again SKP~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #9
Enough will be enough when mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #7
+ 1,000 cantbeserious Jun 2013 #39
Because the powers that be don't want an educated population! They're harder to control. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #10
..your rich own most politicians and FOOL most to keep it that way... ErikJ Jun 2013 #11
when we ditch our current weak leadership and get some with nordic vision perhaps? nt msongs Jun 2013 #12
Yes~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #18
It is a real travesty mick063 Jun 2013 #13
It is pictures like these Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #14
Start with single payer nationalized health care please. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #31
That too. Especially. Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #37
I know some here don't have respect for the millinials... Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #15
The plan to educate all children is here...staring at Pre-K sheshe2 Jun 2013 #20
Eliminating public education is not the same as educating the people Doctor_J Jun 2013 #38
I like the millenials a hell of a lot better than my own generation (in general, of course) Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #26
Are the Koch Bros. baby boomers? I don't think so. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #32
Excellent felix_numinous Jun 2013 #16
asking Americans to be reasonable is an unreasonable request burnodo Jun 2013 #17
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #19
When is enough going to be enough Flashmann Jun 2013 #21
Huge K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2013 #22
But what does this have to do with Kim and Kanye's Kid? progressoid Jun 2013 #23
k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #24
Excellent topic. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #25
K & R L0oniX Jun 2013 #27
Many here would tell them to STFU or be bombed. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #28
huh? sheshe2 Jun 2013 #33
That too. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #36
I have always been of the opinion that we don't have to raise taxes on the Cleita Jun 2013 #29
K&R! The 1% and the corporations have no love of country. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #30
I would move if I could DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #34
Get out of the way nineteen50 Jun 2013 #35
du rec nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #41
K & R! Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #42
>sigh< KnR Hekate Jun 2013 #43

Cha

(297,123 posts)
1. That would be just the opposite
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:15 AM
Jun 2013

of what the repbulicons want for our Country. But, a way to get them out is to get Active and always Vote.

Thanks for the graphic, she.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
40. I voted for Democrats but somehow I got Republicans like Clapper and Mueller
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:08 PM
Jun 2013

and Tim Geitner, Lawrence Summers, Ben Bernanke, William M. Daley, Jeff Immelt, Alan Simpson, Dave Cote, Jeb Bush, Robert Gates, Gen Stanley McChrystal, Jacob Lew, Jeremiah Norton, Gen Petraeus, John Brennen, Chuck Hegal, Michael Taylor, James Comey.

If I vote for Ms. Clinton will I get more Republicans??

elleng

(130,861 posts)
2. VERY sorry its too late for my daughters, ages 25 and 28, to move to Nordic countries;
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:18 AM
Jun 2013

they're both about to have children, and I am VERY concerned about the family's (and country's) future for the reason you suggest.

she2

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
4. Hi elleng
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:25 AM
Jun 2013

No children here, however several beautiful great nieces and great nephews! I know exactly what you are saying!

Congratulations on becoming a Grandmother!

elleng

(130,861 posts)
5. Thanks, she2.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:28 AM
Jun 2013

Older daughter due in December, younger daughter working on it now. (I think this the first time I've 'announced' it at DU!)

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
18. Yes~
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jun 2013


TWO DAYS until Boehner and the Republicans make college even more expensive by DOUBLING student Loan rates.

Tell them to stop the increase now: http://dems.me/TWOdays



Students deserve the same loan rates as big banks. Sign the petition: http://dems.me/FairLoans

https://www.facebook.com/electdemocrats?fref=ts

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
13. It is a real travesty
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:32 AM
Jun 2013

The corrupt state of our nation.

Government owned by corporations and not representative of the people.

It gives a legitimate argument to those that wish to render government powerless.

What those people don't realize is that powerless government is the end goal of the corporations that have corrupted our government.

Such corporations wish to take our government's traditional roles for profit.

We can start to change things by cutting the gonads off of ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council).

We can only do that by educating ourselves and then others.

The recovery will take decades.

If we don't start right now, we will be a totalitarian state.

Then all of us can fear the "black helicopters". The privatized, contractor type of black helicopters.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
14. It is pictures like these
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:44 AM
Jun 2013

that make me so envious of other countries sometimes. Countries like Canada and some of the European nations really seem to have it good and seem to be on the correct side of the debate on more issues than we are. And I'm as much of a patriot as the next guy, but is the U.S. truly the greatest country on Earth if we cannot even provide college education with no strings attached?

Notafraidtoo

(402 posts)
15. I know some here don't have respect for the millinials...
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:26 AM
Jun 2013

Some think we are lazy,rude and have poor english skills. Others complain that we can not write or read cursive and don't read newspapers..

Just wait until we are all in the 45-55 age range and it becomes so clear that our parents and grand parents have left us nothing.

Just wait until we and our children see that the greed of the past few generations have destroyed any hope of a True American dream.

Then you will see us take to the streets and invoke a economic revolution on this country that will rival that of the greatest generation. Then we can be like the democratic socialist country's that many of us envy, its just a matter of time and it wont happen until the cookie jar is empty.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
20. The plan to educate all children is here...staring at Pre-K
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jun 2013


K-12 Education

In today’s global economy, a high-quality education is no longer just a pathway to opportunity—it is a prerequisite to success. Because economic progress and educational achievement are inextricably linked, educating every American student to graduate from high school prepared for college and for a career is a national imperative. The President has articulated a goal for America to once again lead the world in college completion by the year 2020, and all of President Obama’s education efforts aim toward this overarching objective.

To create an economy built to last, we need to provide every child with a complete and competitive education that will enable them to succeed in a global economy based on knowledge and innovation. To provide a high-quality education to all American children, President Obama has advanced reforms around four key objectives:

Higher standards and better assessments that will prepare students to succeed in college and the workplace

Ambitious efforts to recruit, prepare, develop, and advance effective teachers and principals, especially in the classrooms where they are most needed

Smarter data systems to measure student growth and success, and help educators improve instruction

New attention and a national effort to turn around our lowest-achieving schools.

Since taking office, the Obama Administration has designed and implemented

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/education/k-12
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
38. Eliminating public education is not the same as educating the people
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jun 2013

In the countries in the OP poster, education for everyone is paid for entirely. The president wants to do exactly the opposite - completely replace public education with profit centers. He wants to turn our education system into a replica of our health care system - worst in the world, despite the highest cost.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
26. I like the millenials a hell of a lot better than my own generation (in general, of course)
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jun 2013

I'm pushing into my upper-40s. So many of the people I grew up with were selfish little Reagan Youth pricks with a sense of entitlement as wide as the Mississippi. They haven't changed much, as far as I can see.

My kids, their friends, and my younger relatives are smart, liberal, gay-friendly, internationally minded and they have a healthy cynicism about the bought-and-paid-for-by-corporations workings of the U.S. government.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
32. Are the Koch Bros. baby boomers? I don't think so.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:41 PM
Jun 2013

Boomers' fixed it the way it needed to be fixed in the mid-sixties. I see that millennials are letting all that fall apart and going goofy over the R. Pauls. Millenials should be smarter and stick with DEMOCRATS. Any other vote is tantamount to a Republican vote. BTW, Republicans are the ones that made the mess.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
16. Excellent
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jun 2013

It took years of work for the RW to get this mission accomplished. Now Americans have to take our lives back and change the mission back to We The People.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
21. When is enough going to be enough
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jun 2013

Knowing the "general public",as I think I do,enough will be enough at some point past being able to do anything about it...

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
25. Excellent topic.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jun 2013

Boehnor and his Tea Party coalition in the House just flushed another segment of the voting public right down the pipes.

They don't care about anyone but themselves.

And the rich white men managing corporations that gave them the money to run for office to begin with!!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
29. I have always been of the opinion that we don't have to raise taxes on the
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jun 2013

general population to use for a free and universal education for all young people like the Nordic countries have. I do believe the 1% of billionaires and multi-global corporations should shoulder the burden. All billionaires and the corporations they sit on the boards of directors for should be paying taxes on all their transactions to fund education. They are the ones who benefit the most from an educated workforce. It's time they paid for it. Letting corporations like GE get away with paying no taxes at all is a crime.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
30. K&R! The 1% and the corporations have no love of country.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jun 2013

They do not care what would enhance the common good. That is why they fight tooth and nail to keep from paying a decent tax rate. It's pretty simple.

http://www.nationofchange.org/believe-it-or-not-13-mind-blowing-facts-about-america-s-tax-dodging-corporations-1372514605

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
34. I would move if I could
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jun 2013

I don't speak Swedish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Danish or Finnish...just English and German.

Nonetheless, I would "go Nordic" if I could, but moving to another country just isn't as easy as it sounds.

I live near the Canadian border. I would move there in a heartbeat but unless you're a political refugee, have guaranteed in writing employment, immediate family or are a citizen of another Commonwealth country it's very, very, very hard. I even asked about joining the Canadian military some years ago...I could join, but only AFTER I was already legally living in Canada, and then only as a reservist.

I think this country is too far gone down the path of RW hell to be salvageable.

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