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libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:17 AM Feb 2012

If gas goes to 5.00 per gallon

Will you give up Internet to save money?
I posted this in another thread but am curious.
I just cant help but wonder if it is part of a plan to break up the national and global wide connection of occupy.

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If gas goes to 5.00 per gallon (Original Post) libtodeath Feb 2012 OP
Might be more than 5. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #1
I've been wondering what else the R's would do to defeat Obama Rene Feb 2012 #20
On the other hand....Romney? CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #28
People will do the same thing they did last time. Iggo Feb 2012 #2
I only have one vehicle libtodeath Feb 2012 #4
Except for you, I guess. Iggo Feb 2012 #11
How long do you think cheap gasoline is going to last? jberryhill Feb 2012 #3
True libtodeath Feb 2012 #5
Like BART? jberryhill Feb 2012 #6
In Germany, more than 60% of the cost of gasoline is in taxes.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #17
interesting... ohnoimscared Feb 2012 #27
It's not just gasoline that's going up... it's "peak everything". Zalatix Feb 2012 #35
Huh? greytdemocrat Feb 2012 #7
I didnt word it right libtodeath Feb 2012 #13
Nope. Fortunately, gasoline is still a small % of my monthly bills. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #8
Yes, fortunately, for me too. RebelOne Feb 2012 #41
I might look a little goofy flobee1 Feb 2012 #9
Given the real problems expensive fuel causes, you think it's to break up Occupy? Robb Feb 2012 #10
No I won't kctim Feb 2012 #12
.....watch the economy slip back into a coma. marmar Feb 2012 #14
The oil companies ability to manipulate gas prices with impunity rurallib Feb 2012 #21
Obama says it is a sign of a great economic recovery. I kid you not. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #29
It's around $8 a gallon at present exchange rates in most of Europe. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #15
And in most of Europe, more than half that price is taxes..... Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #22
Without taxes it's about $3.20 a gallon in the US, as well. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #24
No, I'll just walk or take the bus more than I even do now (which is at least 3 days per week) WI_DEM Feb 2012 #16
If gas hits $5 a gallon, the Chinese will invade us... Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #18
No, I would not give up the internet Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #19
Your basement obliviously Feb 2012 #23
No it's not about the occupy movement... Javaman Feb 2012 #25
If (when) it goes to $5, that will be the first step in the road to getting us off the oil... cleanhippie Feb 2012 #26
I would give up my car before I gave up the Internet. sarcasmo Feb 2012 #30
Nope. Beacool Feb 2012 #31
The cable TV goes before the internet access FarCenter Feb 2012 #32
no guitar man Feb 2012 #33
oil is a finite resource. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #34
No. oldhippie Feb 2012 #36
Just the opposite... Fumesucker Feb 2012 #37
Raising gas prices may be used to get at Obama TBF Feb 2012 #38
Of course gas is going to $5 a gallon. It will happen. The only questions are 'When' and 'How do we pampango Feb 2012 #39
LOL snooper2 Feb 2012 #40
 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
1. Might be more than 5.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:22 AM
Feb 2012

If we get into war in the Mid-East. I ride my bike. Not drive my car. And row my boat. And grow my garden. And switch to drugs.

Rene

(1,183 posts)
20. I've been wondering what else the R's would do to defeat Obama
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
Feb 2012

Their ridiculous slate of candidates won't unseat him.....
but
Would forcing high inflation by election time......like happened to Jimmy Carter.....cause political setback for O

I think these climbing gas prices are being intentionally done so there will be a politically unstable scene by November. high gas costs will = inflation

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
4. I only have one vehicle
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:35 AM
Feb 2012

so that is what I have to drive,it is a small 4wd pickup that I need for the bad winters here and to get firewood in.
It will be 10-20 dollars a week out of my pocket so will be looking to save somewhere.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. How long do you think cheap gasoline is going to last?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:34 AM
Feb 2012

Perhaps you should take a look at what the rest of the world has been paying for gasoline for a very long time now.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
5. True
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:37 AM
Feb 2012

but a lot of those places have public transportation so lots of people dont have cars or the miles to travel back and forth to work.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Like BART?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:48 AM
Feb 2012

The wholly fascist and intolerable BART, whose operation is a threat to global freedom and liberty?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. In Germany, more than 60% of the cost of gasoline is in taxes....
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012

So that is a major factor. UK, also you pay more in taxes than you pay for the product itself.

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)
7. Huh?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:56 AM
Feb 2012

"I just cant help but wonder if it is part of a plan to break up the national and global wide connection of occupy."

You're kidding right??? Gas going up is to stop Occupy???

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
13. I didnt word it right
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:09 AM
Feb 2012

not to stop it but would occupy have taken off across the country the way it did without the internet and places like DU spreading the word and events.
That was my thought although maybe a bad one.

aikoaiko

(34,161 posts)
8. Nope. Fortunately, gasoline is still a small % of my monthly bills.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:57 AM
Feb 2012

But I realize that is not so for many folks.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
41. Yes, fortunately, for me too.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:42 PM
Feb 2012

I have been retired for 2 years now, and only use my car to go shopping. I never go far from home because I have shopping malls and supermarkets all within a 5-mile radius. Usually, I only have to fill up my gas tank about every month and a half.

flobee1

(870 posts)
9. I might look a little goofy
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:57 AM
Feb 2012

But I am planning on riding the moped on my 14 mile commute to work. Laugh all you want, but at 120 mpg, I could care less.

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
21. The oil companies ability to manipulate gas prices with impunity
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
Feb 2012

is the secret weapon of the Repubs.
Jack up the price, cripple the economy and make Obama look weak when there is little he can do.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
15. It's around $8 a gallon at present exchange rates in most of Europe.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:24 AM
Feb 2012

Higher fuel prices are an inevitability given that there is a limited supply of oil, given that oil production has been flat since 2005, and given that demand continues increasing, mostly due to growing demand from China and India. Oil is at around $120 a barrel (Brent crude: $118; Alaska North Slope, $120; Louisiana Light Sweet crude, $122; West African Bonny Light crude, $120). You can ignore the reports on the news that oil is at $100 a barrel; it isn't. That's West Texas Intermediate, which accounts for c. 300k bbl/day of the US's 5.5M bbl/day production; the reason it's trading much cheaper than any other grade of crude oil in the world is because there's an oversupply at the depot in Cushing, Oklahoma, with limited pipeline facilities to move it out. It's not only not a global benchmark, it's not even a useful benchmark for the US oil market. And the last time oil was trading at this level the average US price per gallon of gasoline was around $3.50; any economic recovery is perforce going to increase demand and thus oil prices (as we saw in 2008, when crude oil peaked at $147 a barrel). This is the result of peak oil, of constraints on supply and of demand being greater than available supply. It's not part of any plan at all.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. And in most of Europe, more than half that price is taxes.....
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
Feb 2012

In Germany it is more than 60% in taxes. Without the taxes, the price of the product is $3.20 a gallon. So it is not a fact that the market price of gasoline in Europe is more than twice what it is here, the fact is the taxes are much, much higher. Why not compare prices to prices and taxes on those prices to taxes on those prices?

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
24. Without taxes it's about $3.20 a gallon in the US, as well.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:58 AM
Feb 2012

Current price per gallon in the Atlanta area, around $3.50; Georgia fuel taxes, 31.9 cents per gallon.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
19. No, I would not give up the internet
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:34 AM
Feb 2012

I would use it more, in order to provide information, connections, entertainment & shopping options as I spent more time at home. I would cut back, but that would be in areas of traveling (which would be hard, as I don't use the car for much beyond the commute now).

Javaman

(62,497 posts)
25. No it's not about the occupy movement...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:58 AM
Feb 2012

it's about suppressing a population that was engineered to be addicted to fossil fuels so a very small group of ultra wealthy people could make unbelievable amounts of money off the stupid.

we have entered into an era where demand is out stripping supply.

As a result, the ultra-wealthy are trying to make as much buck as possible before it's impossible to maintain supply for demand.

Welcome to the new reality. It's just like the old reality, only it sucks a lot more.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
26. If (when) it goes to $5, that will be the first step in the road to getting us off the oil...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:05 AM
Feb 2012

It will be painful, people will have to make adjustments to their lives, and many will simply flail about and complain, but in the end, it will be for the best.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. Nope.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:49 PM
Feb 2012

I was about to respond "as long as I have a job", but even if I didn't have a job I would keep the internet. How else would I look for another position?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
34. oil is a finite resource.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:48 PM
Feb 2012

sooner people realize that, the better. This idea that we're somehow entitled to an endless cheap supply of it is delusional.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
37. Just the opposite...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:57 PM
Feb 2012

Cut back on driving and get even better at hypermiling while doing everything possible online rather than driving.

TBF

(32,000 posts)
38. Raising gas prices may be used to get at Obama
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:57 PM
Feb 2012

during an election year (what else can they do - their candidates are crap) but why in the world would it have anything to do with Occupy? Occupy draws from all age groups but I have to believe the majority are young - and if they are college students they probably bike/ride busses/walk more than drive anyway.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
39. Of course gas is going to $5 a gallon. It will happen. The only questions are 'When' and 'How do we
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:35 PM
Feb 2012

prepare for that day'.

I don't know if $5 gas is coming this year, next year, etc. but it (and much worse prices) is coming. The policy question is "Do focus our efforts on keeping gas as cheap as possible for as long as possible then when the inevitable more expensive gas finally comes, hope against hope that we can scramble and deal with its effects?" Or do we accept/promote a faster rise in gas prices in a way that funds alternative energy/mass transportation so that we are preparing for the day of really expensive/hard-to-get gas?

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