Zimmerman's re-enactment video

[B2G]

My sister knows I'm following the trial and she emailed me this a little bit ago. I didn't know this even existed. Can the defense admit this as evidence?

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[Just Saying]

1. No

He'd have to take the stand so he can be cross examined.

[Travis_0004]

3. That is correct.

The prosecution can admit the video, but the defense can not unless zimmerman is going to testify.


If I was O'mara, and the prosecution didn't admit the video, I would call the officer that made the video to the stand, have him testify that a video was made and submitted the the prosecution.

Then in closing statements, mention the video, and imply that the prosecution is hiding something because if the video was damaging to zimmerman they would have admitted it.

[discopants]

16. the lacerations on the back his head

he said are from getting his head slammed on concrete. Never made sense to me because they looked like cuts from a sharp object.

Look at the 10:00 minute mark where he says the incident occurred. There's a short tree right there with leafless branches. … I bet he backed into the tree branches, possibly during a physical altercation with Martin. The cuts on his head look more like an injury caused by running into tree branches than banging on concrete.

[discopants]

18. also, Zimmerman already lied to the judge about his finances while posting bail

and that was what got him thrown in jail.

[SaveAmerica]

22. I'm just watching for the first time and at 7:39 you have a shot of

the bandages covering his injuries. To my way of thinking, if your head is bashed onto concrete or any other hard surface, your injuries are going to be on that part of your skull that protrudes (the base of your skull goes in and then slopes outward, the lower point of that slope is what I'm talking about, it would receive the blows upon contact). His bandages are on 2 areas above that protrusion and it would be difficult (if not impossible) to bend his head back far enough while slamming his head on concrete to make injuries that high. The bandage on top looks way way out of any range to have been the result of a head slam to concrete.

[arcane1]

2. I saw this for the first time yesterday, in a post speculating that his injuries came from the trees

It seems plausible.

http://friendsofharvey.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/ould-this-be-the-real-cause-of-zimmerman-s-head-injuries-zimmermantrial-j4tm/

[Hoyt]

8. Those really are the kind of cuts you'd get from running into tree limb or something.

[B2G]

17. He broke his nose and

cut the back of his head running into one of those little trees?

[Hoyt]

19. I'm hoping Trayvon broke his nose before being murdered, assuming his nose was broken.

[prole_for_peace]

4. How long until we see Trayvon's re-enactment video?

Oh wait... we won't because he is dead and this is the guy that did it.

[Gin]

5. Hmmm......he had his arms out..........not according to the folks who saw him right after...

George

Also...the band aids on the head were obvious......a special effect? George?

[notadmblnd]

6. I don't believe him

I think he asked Trayvon if he had a problem and when Trayvon replied no, George said, "well you do now mother fucker".

[B2G]

7. Then why wait to pull out the gun?

If he was so hell bent on killing him, why fight him first? Why not just blow him away?

[chillfactor]

9. you really are a Zimmerman apologist...

you have lost your reasoning power from the looks of it!

[B2G]

11. No, I am not

If this is such an open and shut case as so many here are claiming, the prosecution will prove it. I believe in our judicial system and the concept of innocence until proven guilty.

For your sake, I hope if you're ever on the wrong side of the law, your jury doesn't truly consist of member of your peers, because if it does, you will be well and truly fucked.

[Just Saying]

15. I believe very few people have said this is open and shut

But they didn't even want to charge Z for killing an unarmed kid. We want justice. Zimmerman is innocent until guilty in court, however we can judge him all we like.

In the end, the jury will decide if Z was justified to use deadly force. Whatever the laws in Florida say or the jury decides, a lot of us think he simply didn't have the right.

[notadmblnd]

12. I think it was Trayvon on the bottom trying to wiggle away

and when he did break free, he got on top of Zimmerman and tried to hold George's arms away from the gun. George got the gun, shot Trayvon. Trayvon then fell face down in the grass with his arms beneath him.

No witness has testified that George asked them for help restraining Trayvon after the boy was face down in the grass, nor that they happened upon George on Trayvons back attempting to hold Trayvons arms apart. Again, Trayvon's arms were not splayed out as he lie dead, face down on the grass, they were beneath him.

[notadmblnd]

14. because George grabbed Trayvon

and that's why Trayvon said "Get off me" as his friend testified.

[Voice for Peace]

20. ++

i think so too

[notadmblnd]

21. I think a lot of what he said in his re enactment video

happened just the opposite of what he claimed. I also think where he claims at around the 7-10 minute marks that he fell or tripped, that he slammed his face into the tree branch he was standing near and that's how he got his black eyes, broken nose and those little scratches on his head.

[TorchTheWitch]

23. who says he waited to pull out the gun?

The whole reason one has a gun is to use it to keep from being harmed. If it was Martin that caused his injuries than it's reasonable to believe that Zimmerman had brandished or displayed the gun which makes Martin defending HIMSELF violently entirely justified. No one that carries a gun allows themselves to even get IN a physical altercation much less on the losing end. It was that gun that gave Zimmerman the bravery he needed to chase after Martin and confront him, and there's no question he would have pulled it out the second he felt in the slightest bit of danger from Martin. He killed Martin not because he was afraid for his life but because he was PISSED that Martin didn't meekly consent to whatever he wanted and may have gotten some licks in.

The defense counsel O'Mara made it clear in testimony with one of the officers that Zimmerman's gun could easily be seen by his merely thrusting the hip where the gun was holstered forward slightly which caused his jacket to open and show the gun. That's how he showed the officer on the scene where his gun was when that officer wanted to take if off him. O'Mara himself made it clear that Zimmerman's gun could be seen by his hip maneuver, which means that Martin may have seen it before Zimmerman decided to brandish it which also gives Martin reasonable justification for defending himself against a creepy belligerent dude that chased him and confronted him for no legitimate reason.

And of course Zimmerman wouldn't have shot him before getting into a fight with him. He'd have no injuries to explain self-defense and would go to jail for the rest of his life.

[moondust]

10. Problems.

Near the end of the clip GZ claims he shot TM and then TM started to sit up, saying "you got me" or whatever. (I understand from AC360 last night that TM was shot straight through the heart, which makes GZ's story somewhat hard to believe.) GZ goes on to say that he pushed TM off him, laid him face-down, and sat on TM's back, spreading TM's arms out from his body because he was afraid TM had a weapon or something in his hands. That is apparently the end of the physical confrontation as he says then a witness approached followed by a police officer.

The first police officer to arrive at the scene testified on the stand this week that when he arrived TM was lying face-down with his arms tucked under his body, as seen in police photos of the crime scene.

Yo George, how did Trayvon's arms get tucked under his body after you had spread them out because you were still afraid of him a guy who was surely good and dead by this time, being shot point blank directly through the heart?

[Nevernose]

13. Also, his reenactment video is different from

What he initially told police and what he's told other people. These are inconsistencies about the event, not inconsistencies about whether a letter was dictated or a cuss word was left out.

[lumpy]

24. It's hard to accept Zimmermans account of the event and is not consistent with

the testimony of some of the eye witnesses so far. Its seems ridiculous that Trayvon Martin would have made the comments Zimmerman claims Martin had made for example to the effect 'you got me man' while he was in the process of dying. Zimmerman claims that Martin sat up, still struggling with that bullet lodged in his heart. Not believable. Perhaps Zimmerman was in fear for his life, but surely Travon Martin had more reason to fear for his life, especially if he was aware Zimmerman was carrying a gun.

[magellan]

25. And that witness with the flashlight who approached

...said Z was on his feet and walked over to him with his phone to his ear. That correlates with what one of the female witnesses said she saw through her window, that Z got up after shooting TM and paced back and forth with one hand to his head.

The reenactment took place the day after the event. Odd IMO that he'd get so many details wrong.