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20score

(4,769 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 03:57 PM Jun 2013

They Really, Really Care!


It’s a new dawn. Our government has struck the perfect balance between freedom and security. This may have been twelve or more years in the making, but now we know the government cares enough to let us make our own mistakes, while still watching every move we make. You know it’s the right thing to do; because what could be more American than all three branches of government united against privacy? Well, in the New America, anyway. They worry about us. So, like a concerned parent, they check all our web searches, track our movements, store our emails, monitor our phone records, keep track of what we read, buy, who we know, where we go and what we watch. Forever. But yet they don’t go sticking their noses in where they don’t belong… Like Credit Default Swaps. Now that’s caring.

Sometimes people are just don’t know what’s good for them. That’s why state and local governments are joining the federal government in tracking where we go and when we go there. License plate readers are on the tops of many police cars, taking pictures of all the cars they encounter, where and when they were there - and they are coming to your neighborhood soon. It’s all stored in central data bases to be accessed by dozens of government agencies, for any purpose. Congress and the Bush Administration got one thing right. They knew George Orwell’s 1984 wasn’t a warning, it was a blueprint. With the added, and not inconsequential benefit of being a great big money-maker for the right companies. We can be thankful that some on the left have finally caught on!

Total Information Awareness was very unpopular when it was introduced ten years ago. But, people much more powerful and richer than the average person knew it was the right thing to do. There is a time to treat the average person like an adult and let them learn from their own mistakes. Such as when they are signing mortgage papers. But they can’t be trusted to spy on themselves - even though they may do a decent job on FaceBook. So, Total Information Awareness is here under different names. And it’s important to denigrate those who would challenge these programs, or even make us aware of them. (It’s possible they make not like what’s being done, even when it’s for their own good.)

As most will know, when the power of the state is challenged by trouble-makers – they call themselves whistle-blowers, people of conscience and journalists – those trouble-makers need to be silenced. A tried and true method is the ad hominem. Take the ‘journalist’ causing problems right now for the administration. Even though many of the things being said about Glenn Greenwald aren’t true, the important thing is that someone said them. Just as the main stream media knows, when one person says, ‘these are the facts’ and another person says, ‘no, these are’ it is vital not to fact check the information, the key is to allow people to repeat what they’ve heard. It’s the patriotic way to run a news outfit. And our news outfits have been patriotic for years. (Bush didn’t bring us the Iraq War by himself, you know.)

A very important aspect to all the cameras, facial recognition software, storing of all our data, predictive software for future crimes, and total observation – which gets better every year – is not just so people will censor themselves and watch what they say and do (and to know if someone is protesting the corporations or the government). Or even for possible control in the years to come. It’s freedom. People still need to be free. And our government knows no one is actually free unless money can be made. That’s where real freedom comes in. All three branches of government are united on this front, too.

Nothing essential to freedom will change. If you are paying big bucks to a congressman or senator, you know your phone call will be returned every time. And you know that in America, a legislator or regulator will earn their money. They know they don’t work for some tree-hugging, wacko that whines every time someone’s water is set on fire. No, they work for you! If you offer a seven figure job to someone once they’re out of public service, then it’s understood that money comes after a job well done while they’re in public service. See, it’s all good.

Now we need to come together as good citizens and attack those who embarrassed our leaders.

(Even though we already knew about it… But it was bad to bring it up… And the people who told us about it are traitors… And we need to have this conversation… But those who told us about this are more important than the programs… And it kept us safe… And it’s legal anyway… But hurt national security… Did I say this is nothing new?)

Squirrel!
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They Really, Really Care! (Original Post) 20score Jun 2013 OP
Kick.... sibelian Jun 2013 #1
Yea! I feel safer now! suede1 Jun 2013 #2
Thank you! 20score Jul 2013 #29
Well done. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #3
Thanks, Artic Dave. 20score Jun 2013 #24
Very well said!! Funny and truthful. punkin87 Jun 2013 #4
Thanks! 20score Jun 2013 #27
Squirrel! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #5
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #6
you just want inflammable water and other ponies! nashville_brook Jun 2013 #7
:) 20score Jul 2013 #31
Kick Scuba Jun 2013 #8
Truly we should be thankful they care enough to DirkGently Jun 2013 #9
I know, right?! suede1 Jun 2013 #10
Not yours anymore. punkin87 Jun 2013 #12
Damn! suede1 Jun 2013 #25
Kick! suede1 Jun 2013 #11
Seems ou government hates our nineteen50 Jun 2013 #13
We have come a long way already zeemike Jun 2013 #14
the government loves women best marym625 Jun 2013 #15
Thank you! 20score Jul 2013 #30
Why would we trust this government with a single payer health care system? JoePhilly Jun 2013 #16
You don't understand EMR. You should get smarter. Nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #17
Why would you think EMR data is any different than any other data? JoePhilly Jun 2013 #20
Why does anyone need blood pressure info on every 12 yo ? galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #23
... sibelian Jun 2013 #19
In what way? JoePhilly Jun 2013 #21
That is cool! 20score Jul 2013 #34
The opposite would actually be true. 20score Jun 2013 #22
But but but ...they stomp on bunnies. L0oniX Jun 2013 #18
... woo me with science Jun 2013 #26
The nanny state marions ghost Jun 2013 #28
K&R Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2013 #32
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #33
Kick suede1 Jul 2013 #35

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
9. Truly we should be thankful they care enough to
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jun 2013

charge us billions for storing our "metadata." I wasn't using mine anyway, and had no idea where to put it all!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. We have come a long way already
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jun 2013

We now obey Big Brother....but it is not enough to obey him, we must love Big Brother....and a cage full of rats on your face will make that happen.
K&R

marym625

(17,997 posts)
15. the government loves women best
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jun 2013

I have always felt loved by our government. Being a woman I know I am part of the population that the government cares most about. Some states love us more than others but on a whole, we know we're cared about deeply.
Iowa cares about us the most imho. The governor himself is so interested in our uterus he wants to keep decisions about what we can do in his hands alone. What a guy!
Well done 20Score! Love it!

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
16. Why would we trust this government with a single payer health care system?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jun 2013

Wouldn't they just data mine our medical records and then use the information against us?

And given this, should the members of DU stop supporting single payer Health care?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
20. Why would you think EMR data is any different than any other data?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jun 2013

As part of any single payer health care system, the government will be paying doctors and doing analysis on specific medical outcomes.

The doctors will be required to indicate their diagnosis and treatment plan to obtain reimbursements.

And the government will crawl through the data looking for patterns.

If the government is using our phone and email data against us in a fascist manner (an many are claiming), there is no reason to assume that they will not do the same with our medical records. In fact, one must assume that their evil intent expands beyond basic communications and into all records about us, including medical.

 

galileoreloaded

(2,571 posts)
23. Why does anyone need blood pressure info on every 12 yo ?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jun 2013

Ill pass, but may your chains rest lightly.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
21. In what way?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jun 2013

If we now have a Fascist government (as some now claim), certainly that government should not be trusted with any aspect of our medical records.

20score

(4,769 posts)
22. The opposite would actually be true.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013

If there is money to be made, then our records really aren't safe unless there are some protections. There would be no money to be made if everyone is covered, hence, our medical records would be safer. (At least if employers weren't able to access them.)

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
28. The nanny state
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jun 2013
"like a concerned parent, they check all our web searches, track our movements, store our emails, monitor our phone records, keep track of what we read, buy, who we know, where we go and what we watch. Forever"

The most insulting thing to the American people IMO is how the PTB have treated us all like children in this. We don't need to know what's going on. It's all for our own good...
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