Looks like the Z-trial jury deliberated through lunch.

[FarPoint]

Good...verdict appears imminent ....say by 4 pm - 5 pm per my guess. Oh...I saw this tidbit on MSNBC. Probably discussing degree of murder. Not guilty would not require detailed discussion ....All in my opinion.

[Just Saying]

1. Hope you're right. N/T

[HockeyMom]

2. Police has asked that the verdict

not be released until a weekday.

[Travis_0004]

4. Do you have a link?

If so, that is stupid. If he is guilty, he should be taken straight to prison, if he is innocent, he should be allowed to know that, and go on his way.

[Tx4obama]

18. IF found guilty the next step in Court is the 'penalty phase'

The Defendant will be placed in 'jail' until the penalty phase has been concluded, then after that he would be transferred to a prison.

In the Jodi Arias case she was found guilty by the jury - then during the penalty phase it was a hung jury. The guilty verdict stands but the penalty phase will be redone, the trial resumes July 18th. Arias is being held in a 'jail' not a 'prison'.

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. I am no fan of the defendent

but isn't that a bit unfair in the process?

[Bay Boy]

6. They have no right to ask that..

...do you have a source to that request?

[FarPoint]

7. Screw the Sanford Police

and the dark horse the rode in on...

[HockeyMom]

35. Miami too

from what I read. Trayvon was from Miami.

[NightWatcher]

10. It's cloudy down there. Why not release it when it starts raining

Then the overturned cop card won't easily be able to be set on fire.

They shouldn't give a tinker's damn about when the cops want them to do something.

Why not ask them to wait till welfare checks go out. Then all the black people will be too drunk off malt liquor to drive their Caddys to the scene of the riot.

The jury shouldn't do shit for the cops.

[gollygee]

11. +1

for obvious stereotyping, and because juries don't work for the police department.

[HockeyMom]

49. It's been raining every day for 2 months

Rainy Season now in Florida.

[Tx4obama]

12. The Judge said if the jury reaches a verdict on the weekend it WILL be announced on the same day

[Just Saying]

13. I've heard this was discussed but the judge said she would not hold the verdict.

I'll have to look for more information.

[madaboutharry]

26. Judge Nelson said it will be released within 15 minutes of her receiving notice of a verdict.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. I like the way you think

although I profess ignorance to the process. Personally, I'm hoping for guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.

[Travis_0004]

8. It took 9 days to find Robert Blake not guilty.

I wouldn't read too much into the wait, its only been about 8 hours.

[Hoyt]

36. Good point, but they were watching "Our Gang" and "Baretta" reruns the whole time.

He was one of my favorite actors from the time I saw "In Cold Blood." But, he didn't handle old age well. I was really surprised he got off on that one, although the victim did play him pretty well.

[pintobean]

9. No they didn't.

"Jurors will pause deliberations from 12:00-1:00pm to eat lunch on site."
Michelle Kennedy, Public Information Officer for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit.

[Just Saying]

15. According to Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/13/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE96C07420130713

The judge said she will allow the jurors to set their own working hours. The six women worked through lunch on Saturday.

[pintobean]

22. I'll take the official word of the court

over a reporter who didn't give a source.

[Just Saying]

23. It's being reported all over.

From the word of the court, that statement was issued before lunch and its now well past lunchtime in Florida.

On edit: I personally don't consider an unverified twitter account "official."

[pintobean]

30. Well

Ho Lee Fuk

Reports about the jurors working through lunch were out before that tweet. There has been no correction or update since. You go ahead and verify that account. The reporters who have been in the courtroom throughout the whole trial have been relying on information from that account all along. I would imagine they got the account info directly from the information officer.

[Just Saying]

31. Believe what you like.

But just for future reference, an account on twitter without a blue verified check could be anybody. Tons of fake accounts on there.

[FarPoint]

16. Same difference...

I sense we all have sat at our desk and ate our lunch while working in one way or another. Point being..they want to resolve the issues and go home....likely tonight.

If there was a lone wolfe holdout...they would of taken a normal off site lunch for a change of mood stimulation. I personally think they are working out the details of degree of murder....tightening up loose ends.

[woolldog]

17. hogwash.

Your posts are entirely speculative. Stop with this BS of trying to predict what's happening in the jury room. You have no friggin clue.

[FarPoint]

21. Chill out...

please review and note that indeed, I identified this as my sense and my opinion.

I enjoy discussion and have no intention of caring about your needs. You can correct that issue by moving into another thread or stay, engage in discussion but do do so without the controlling attitude... Your choice.

Thank you for sharing my friend.

[d_r]

27. wow

that's a little over the top isn't it? I mean internet message boards are pretty much full of people posting their speculation about all sorts of things.

[Just Saying]

20. I think working thru lunch means they're at least making progress.

We can't know for sure in which direction but if they all had reasonable doubt it seems like they could come to that fairly quickly so it's more likely there's either a hold out or they're deciding exactly what he's guilty of. Just speculation based on what makes the most sense.

[markiv]

40. i hate working through lunch

i really like lunch

[Tx4obama]

14. They said on the TV that...

... ever since the OJ trial that nowadays juries do NOT come out real quick with a 'guilty' verdict.

They said that since the jury went into deliberations on Friday that they'd probably wait until at least Monday to announce a verdict - due to 'optics' not because if they've reached a verdict or not.

They talked about one case where the jury said they decided on a guilty verdict on a Friday but waited till Monday to tell everyone.

That's all I know


p.s. Could have been Mark Geragos that said the above.

---------

A DU poll on link below...

Poll: What is your prediction to what the verdict will be?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023228062

[Ruby the Liberal]

19. Optics? They have been sequestered for weeks.

I would think that they would want to go home to their families.

[pnwmom]

24. Not guilty could require LOTS of discussion, if there was a holdout for guilt. nt

[FarPoint]

28. True enough....

Now let me look into my teacup and say this....by reading the mini-bio of the 6 jurist from the NYT posted here on DU today, I sense only one to hold out for not-guilty...the gal from Iowa is my pick.

I couldn't find the post...so here is a link from the Miami newspaper....

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/13/3498618/a-look-at-the-jurors-for-george.html

[markiv]

29. I would avoid some areas, until the verdict is out

1992 taught us that there can definately be a wrong place and time to be when a verdict is out

[Hugabear]

33. And what areas should we avoid?

You just said you would avoid 'some areas' - please elaborate. Do you know something the rest of us don't? I live in Central Florida. If there are areas that I should avoid until the verdict is out, I'd appreciate knowing those areas.

[markiv]

34. you can draw your own conclusion

perhaps you should avoid places where conservatives gather?

[Hugabear]

41. Are you saying your friends might get violent?

[markiv]

45. none of my friends care about this trial, that i know of

to them, it's a murder 1400 miles away, they care more about the murders that occur with 50 miles

[Hugabear]

46. I like how you don't deny your friends are conservatives

Of course we kinda figured that out already

[markiv]

47. how do you know? did you check with the NSA?

and how does NOT having an opinion on a case far away make you 'a member of group 'x''

frankly i wouldnt care to part of any group that mandates having an opinion of every single issue, and seeks to 'expose' anyone who doesnt - sounds kinda jackboot, to me

[Hugabear]

48. No, it's your not-so-subtle racism in this thread

We know damn well what you mean about staying out of 'some areas'

[markiv]

50. DU needs a 'Godwins Law' on that accusation

because as a thread grows longer, the probablity of that being tossed about approaches 1

Godwin's lawFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Mike Godwin (2010)Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an assertion made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[2][3] In other words, Godwin said that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis.

Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[4] the law is now often applied to any threaded online discussion, such as forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, and has been invoked for the inappropriate use of Nazi analogies in articles or speeches.[5]

In 2012, "Godwin's Law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

[Hoyt]

37. I would avoid any area where confederate flags and armed tbaggers are common.

[markiv]

38. would that be a change of plans for you?

you go there often?

[Hoyt]

39. Try my best to avoid bigots and gun nuts. What makes you think minorities are ones who might riot?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

44. You mean where we knee-grows are? Because, you know, we black folk are scary and violent!!

You are being disgusting!

[davidn3600]

32. Lawyers would warn not to read to much into anything

[RebelOne]

42. It is now 5:15 and no verdict.

I don't think it will come until Monday.

[FarPoint]

43. Ah, Ah, ah,,,,don't touch that dial .........

...........

because I feel a verdict tonight! The jury asked for clarification of instructions for manslaughter....I sense they are pulling it all together right now.....I smell a guilty verdict from Florida. Just my simple opinion.

[Deep13]

51. Well, anything less than a day would be a quick verdict. nt

[Warpy]

52. Either they're awfully close or awfully far from a decision

and working through lunch to sort through all the contradictions.