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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:57 PM

Please Help !!! (Important)


I am hoping that DUers will assist me on the conflict described in the below quote and link. (And that my computer skills are adequate enough to allow me to copy & paste it properly.)

http://www.change.org/petitions/antero-resources-and-the-state-of-ohio-protect-native-american-archeological-burial-grounds-in-ohio-owned-by-bonds

"The property is a prospective site for shale gas exploration, drilling and extraction. The property owners have refused multiple offers to purchase or lease rights on the property to drill for shale methane gas. That is their private right. Beyond that right, the property,and specifically the portion of the property Antero Resources seeks to excavate and drill, has also been identified as a Native American Burial Mound site. In addition, evidence exists that other significant and historic anthropological findings on this site may be disrupted or destroyed if excavation and drilling are performed on the Bond property. It is in the best interests of the County, State of Ohio, and Nation, if Antero Resources, and the State of Ohio are prohibited from allowing the imposition of Eminent Domain to procure the property, or any other legal or civil action, including the voluntary sale and use of the property for excavation and drilling for the purposes Antero Resources requires to recover shale gas from this property. Specifically, no excavation below grade should be allowed, and no sub-surface drilling should be allowed which might disturb or destroy any burial sites or archological relics of whatever archeological age, on the Bond Property, for any purpose."

This information was sent to me a short time ago. I have been in communication with the Onondaga Nation, and with the Nation's attorney, this afternoon. The possibility of this leading to a federal court case is high, in my opinion.

We need as much support from the general public as possible. Please sign the petition, and -- iff possible -- send it along to other groups and individuals who may be interested.

Thank you for your support!

H2O Man

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Reply Please Help !!! (Important) (Original post)
H2O Man Jul 2013 OP
Lifelong Protester Jul 2013 #1
H2O Man Jul 2013 #2
bigtree Jul 2013 #3
H2O Man Jul 2013 #11
Swamp Lover Jul 2013 #14
liberalhistorian Jul 2013 #49
Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2013 #4
H2O Man Jul 2013 #13
myrna minx Jul 2013 #5
hootinholler Jul 2013 #6
kentuck Jul 2013 #7
Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #8
Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #9
Sissyk Jul 2013 #10
Lochloosa Jul 2013 #12
Squinch Jul 2013 #15
jazzimov Jul 2013 #16
Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #17
DLevine Jul 2013 #18
csziggy Jul 2013 #19
octoberlib Jul 2013 #20
zeemike Jul 2013 #21
RebelOne Jul 2013 #22
IrishAyes Jul 2013 #23
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #24
bluedigger Jul 2013 #25
OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #26
mikeargo Jul 2013 #27
elleng Jul 2013 #28
OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #29
sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #30
GentryDixon Jul 2013 #31
Zorra Jul 2013 #32
Jack Rabbit Jul 2013 #33
barbtries Jul 2013 #34
WillyT Jul 2013 #35
Frustratedlady Jul 2013 #36
ms liberty Jul 2013 #37
mbperrin Jul 2013 #38
snappyturtle Jul 2013 #39
Little Star Jul 2013 #40
G_j Jul 2013 #41
Sienna86 Jul 2013 #42
yellerpup Jul 2013 #43
MoreGOPoop Jul 2013 #44
Auggie Jul 2013 #45
mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #46
panader0 Jul 2013 #47
matthews Jul 2013 #48
annabanana Jul 2013 #50
Trailrider1951 Jul 2013 #51
Beringia Jul 2013 #52
B Calm Jul 2013 #53
PDJane Jul 2013 #54
benld74 Jul 2013 #55
dougolat Jul 2013 #56
Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #57
Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2013 #58
LiberalElite Jul 2013 #59
Blanks Jul 2013 #60
Curmudgeoness Jul 2013 #61
proReality Jul 2013 #62
Zorra Jul 2013 #63
BlueToTheBone Jul 2013 #64
onestepforward Jul 2013 #65
spanone Jul 2013 #66
mntleo2 Jul 2013 #67
limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #68
calimary Jul 2013 #69
coeur_de_lion Jul 2013 #70
RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #71
steve2470 Jul 2013 #72
Hun Joro Jul 2013 #73
Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #74
veness Jul 2013 #75
sinkingfeeling Jul 2013 #76
cry baby Jul 2013 #77
AikidoSoul Jul 2013 #78
toby jo Jul 2013 #79
tishaLA Jul 2013 #80

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:00 PM

1. K & R

and signed.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:01 PM

2. Thank you

very much! I appreciate your support.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:02 PM

3. got it

thanks!

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Response to bigtree (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:08 PM

11. Thank you.

This is stunning -- President Bush the Elder signed the Native American Burial Protection & Repatriation law 23 years ago. But I have half-expected the gas industry to try something like this.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:12 PM

14. NAGPRA was upgraded under Clinton.

 

This will certainly qualify as a protected resource if it is authentic.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:49 PM

49. I agree. Hubby is an attorney

working in tribal law, so I will have to ask him about the specifics of the Act, but my understanding of it is that it would certainly apply in this case and that any energy company will have a fight on its hands. Given the current Congress and Supreme Court, however, I wouldn't be surprised if a way was found around it for energy corporations.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:02 PM

4. K&R

 

Done!

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Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:09 PM

13. Thank you!

Your support means a lot to me.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:03 PM

5. K&R. Thanks for letting us know about this. n/t

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:05 PM

6. Here's a K&R for now

Signage and passing along later tonight.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:05 PM

7. It seems so cut and dried.

No windmills above ground. No drilling at angles under the ground. It is a sacred burial ground. And anyway, we don't need it.

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:05 PM

8. done n/t

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:06 PM

9. Okey-doke

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:07 PM

10. K&R

Signed and passed on by email to friends and co--workers.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:09 PM

12. Done

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:16 PM

15. Signed. Thanks for bringing it here.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:17 PM

16. K&R! Thanks for posting this

and bringing this to our attention. Petition signed.

We need to save this site for future generations!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:18 PM

17. Done and forwarded.

 

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:18 PM

18. Done. nt

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:20 PM

19. Done. n/t

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:22 PM

20. Signed. K&R !

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:22 PM

21. K&R

There is no need for this at all.

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:29 PM

22. Done.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:32 PM

23. Nothing I like better than signing worthy petitions.

Got next to no $ to spare, and the red state where I retired for affordability! is preparing to grab even more of my meager SS to finance a huge tax cut they want for corporations, but one thing they can't take away from me is petition signing and voting! Not yet anyway.

I'm on Change.org's mailing list but as yet had not received news on this matter. So thank you very much.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:43 PM

24. Kick, rec'd and signed!

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:46 PM

25. Signed and shared on FB and Archaeologyfieldwork.com

I'll try to remember to share any good feedback I get, as this puzzles me. eminent domain? And doesn't Ohio have burial protection laws? This should be protected six ways from Sunday by government regs, but the frackers have disturbed sites before with impunity, so maybe not.

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:48 PM

26. Done K&R n/t

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:48 PM

27. Done

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:53 PM

28. Signed and shared.

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:54 PM

29. Done K&R n/t

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:54 PM

30. K&R

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:54 PM

31. Done.

Thank you......

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:56 PM

32. Done. Thank you. nt

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:00 PM

33. Thank you for the information, Pat

My comment on the petition:


Producing mass quantities of energy through fossil fuels is no longer desirable or necessary. Fossil fuel energy has proved to be unhealthy to the planet and unsustainable at present rates of consumption. The human race needs and deserves a better, renewable and sustainable source of energy. It is time to stop heeding the calls of the Fossil Fuel energy to allow them to drill wherever they find a gallon of oil or a pound of coal. We must not allow them to pretend or to persuade us, the American people, that renewable technology is a dream that will only be realized in the distant future. It is available now, while fossil fuels will be deploeted in the not-too-distant future.

It is time to declare the preservation of a Native American Burial Mound is more important than the corporate well-being of Antero Resources or any other fossil fuel producer. It is an industry that must be replaced by a sustainable energy industry, the sooner the better.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:04 PM

34. signed and shared on fb nt

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:07 PM

35. Done !!! - K & R !!!

 


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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:12 PM

36. Done. There is no end to their greed. eom

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:13 PM

37. Signed and shared on fb. K&R, n/t

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:15 PM

38. Done. nt

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:21 PM

39. Done! nt

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:41 PM

40. Done! k&r

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:46 PM

41. Done

and passed along

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:59 PM

42. Done. nt

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:16 PM

43. Done!

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:20 PM

44. Done!

Thanks.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:20 PM

45. Done

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:23 PM

46. Gotcha

signed petition.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:41 PM

47. Done---K and R

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:42 PM

48. Signed, The Keystone is running into a refusal from the Native Americans

 

in this neck of the woods.

**


Native Americans quit talks on Keystone XL pipeline

Leaders of Native American tribes have pulled out of talks with US federal officials to express their outrage over a planned oil pipeline and the contamination of their ancestral lands as a result of the project.

The leaders from 11 tribes walked out of a meeting in Rapid City on May 16, and called on US President Barack Obama to engage in direct negotiations with them over the Keystone XL pipeline.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/05/19/304239/native-americans-exit-pipeline-talks/

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:56 PM

50. absofriggen'lutely! . . . . . .n/t

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:59 PM

51. K&R! I grew up in central Ohio

The Mound Builders were an important part of Ohio's history. The desecration and/or destruction of their monuments for commercial purposes MUST BE FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL!! I swear to God/Goddess, these corporations cannot be people because they HAVE NO SOUL!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:59 PM

52. Done





"Cheney must be stopped", was thinking about that yesterday while watching the movie Fair Game.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:01 PM

53. K&R

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:02 PM

54. Done. Certainly.

And shared.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:37 PM

55. Done and all the other petitions on the page as well

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:12 PM

56. Check! nt

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:16 PM

57. done

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:47 PM

58. Okie dokie

1,321 signatures.

K&R

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:53 PM

59. Signed.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:55 PM

60. I signed. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. eom

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:59 PM

61. Done, with pleasure.

This is a very important cause to fight for.

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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:01 PM

62. Signed and forwarded. n/t

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:24 PM

63. kick

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:28 PM

64. They are so afraid of death that they will kill everything

around them first.

Remember the 80s Ivan Bosky joke of he who dies with the most toys wins? The truth is that he who dies with the most toys dies. They can't bear their mortality and are homicidal in all their dealings.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:02 PM

65. Done! n/t

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:31 PM

66. k&r...

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:03 AM

67. Done! n/t

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:13 AM

68. I'll sign it.

Southeast Ohio is in the middle of what seems to be an unstoppable fracking holocaust right now.

If I can get more info on this like a news link, I will tell a bunch of people.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:22 AM

69. K&R, and signed!

Thank you for posting this, H2O Man!

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:30 AM

70. Done

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:56 AM

71. K & R

 

Any way to stop them from fracking is a good way!

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:58 AM

72. done ! nt

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:36 AM

73. K&R. Signed.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:02 AM

74. done and done...

cheers m8

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:52 AM

75. Signed! n/t

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:01 AM

76. Done.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:12 PM

77. Signed. nt

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:30 PM

78. Done! K & R --- NT

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:07 PM

79. Don't know the specifics from the article, even, but eminent domain is only applicable for

 

running the gas lines, and even then it is generally only used for interstate transportation. I've yet to hear of a case for eminent domain to get drilling rights.

Then again, the lines they put in are pretty disturbing, they're going in all over where I am in southeastern Ohio.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:12 PM

80. Done. K&R

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