It looks like the Greenwald left has a lot of recruits

[stupidicus]

it sure is tragic that so many elected leaders have gone down the conspiracy kook trail, ain't it?

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Daily Kos staffProfileDiaries (list)Stream.Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:54 AM PDT.

House to vote on bipartisan amendment curtailing the NSA's powerby Joan McCarterFollow .

59 Comments / 59 New.A bipartisan amendment to the defense authorization bill to curtail the NSA's surveillance power has been approved for a vote, possible as soon as Wednesday. The amendment, introduced by Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI), co-sponsored by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ) and over 30 other bipartisan members, would substantially curtail the NSA's domestic spying.
The amendment [pdf] basically defunds the NSA's dragnet collection of every bit of metadata on all phone records as well as other bulk records that have not yet been revealed. The amendment still would allow the NSA to collect information under the original intent—and understanding—of the law, that is information actually related to actual investigations.

The NSA and its supporters are, of course, fighting back. They've introduced a second amendment intended to peel support away from the Amash amendment. What this second amendment, from Rep. Richard Nugent (R-FL), does is to pretend that it will withhold funding for bulk collection, but it actually just reiterates what's already in the law, and it just reiterates the status quo.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/23/1226007/-Notorious-sexist-with-notoriously-bad-judgment-is-reportedly-top-candidate-for-Fed-chair

I'm shocked that Kos would even allow such treachery to be reported on his board.

[NoOneMan]

1. "Greenwald left"

"conspiracy kook trail"

Hm...

Things are so screwed up I can't tell sarcasm from blind dogmatism anymore. Seriously.

[stupidicus]

7. well, it requires daily reading here anymore

to keep up with all the new designations/labels. The "Greenwald left" are as I understand it, those that buy into the importance and concerns the Snowden revelations resulted in.

[NoOneMan]

10. We used to just call them civil libertarians

ACLU card carriers. And now "Greenwald Left"? Strange days

[stupidicus]

16. I know what you mean

and can understand the confusion of anyone that doesn't stay abreast of "things" around here.

I'll let GG label himself. All I see him as is someone who believes in the rule of law, and who tries to apply it consistently without regard for the ideology of those in charge of administering it.

[MrMickeysMom]

17. Yeah... kind of makes me feel dirty now...

I'm just another "Greenwald Left", which I guess is a few steps from becoming Soylent Green, eh?

[Mojorabbit]

2. I know! Quick call Alex Jones and Ron Paul! LOL nt

[stupidicus]

8. I would

but I'd guess they are already laughing their butts off at all those pols buying into their hyped garbage.

[JaneyVee]

3. Good start.

[stupidicus]

9. I couldn't agree more janey

it's encouraging whether they succeed or fail in the effort.

[Pablo Guachupita]

4. People seeking to discredit Greenwald have a hard time branding him left or right

One minute is a right-wing Paulite, the other minute he is a lefty.

[Scurrilous]

5. Is that you Anthony?

[stupidicus]

12. I can understand the efforts to discredit what he reports

but I'd say there's been a bit of a disparity between that and discrediting him personally as a substitute for that.

Most of what I've seen have been efforts to paint him as a righty

[alarimer]

6. Corporate/ authoritarian Democrats can kiss my ass.

I'm not voting for corporate shills who advocate spying on their own people.

Fuck the NSA, fuck the CIA and the whole secret security machine.

[pscot]

13. Word

[hobbit709]

14. Damn right. Anyone that goes along with this spying is NOT a Democrat

[stupidicus]

15. agreed

it seems to me like there's gonna be a number of "litmus tests" going into the 2014 election if some of these issues aren't satisfactorily resolved before then.

[woo me with science]

18. +1

[Mojorabbit]

19. + a gazillion. nt

[forestpath]

20. +1

[Amonester]

22. Unless you use encryption algorithms...

I guess they have it on record now.

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

11. One can appreciate Congressional oversight without kissing Greenwald's putrid ass. nt

[Dragonfli]

21. I think you need more than coffee, reporting abuse does not transform the reporter

by transubstantiation into a "a putrid ass" for reporting the abuse, nor does it magically transform a Democrat into a "putrid ass kisser" for being concerned about what is reported. Did you work for Rove pre-2008? Just curious because your nonsense is oh so familiar, in fact it goes back to when the Pentagon papers were released and your technique was first born, no, actually that's wrong It goes back to Mccarthyism, your vintage now brother!